First let me clear that this game is really polished, something that is normal for NCsoft since they have a lot of experience in MMOs.They really have done a great job in the graphics of this game, the lore and the enviroment. But the greatest problem of this game is that "it is too much" Lineage. In every aspect of it 

u loose exp when u die ( u buy back a part of it though in a cost of money),

u have  to buy all the time powerstones (named soulshots in lineage) to boost ur attack for every hit that you do in order to do some acceptable damage with no skill attacks,

Kinda no brainer pvp with autoattack feature ( just press the attack button and ur character will run to the target to attack it).Even when u fly for example lets say that u are flying on the air and your opponent is miles away, even behind you , you can just target him press 1 (or whatever skill u want) and your character will move to that opponent and attack him.

Especially "retro style" keys like pick up ,sit/stand, dance etc excist and are reminding L2.

Generaly i think that Aion is a game clearly designed for the aesthetics and gameplay of the asian players.It is obvious from just looking at the graphic design.Also it is obvious that L2 fans all over the world will love it.

I am sure that in the near future this game just like L2 official servers will be full of bots and dont tell me that every game has bots if you haven't played lineage.If u havent seen bot parties of up to 6 characters farming whole exp spots day to night with a gear a lot better than yours yet with names afdafafsd...and then going to a town and see 9 identical dwarves with names like xsdsaaaa1xi and sddsi all following each other, running to a guard, hitting it, dying, respawning, going to another guard and repeating it (de-lvlling to farm more adena-in game money)...Bots farming the spot that you wanted to level in..U report them nothing happens..It was -blindingly- obvious in L2, and nothing was done about it..NC soft kept deleting posts in the forums that mentions them and only ban 2-3k of them once a year when the 70% or even more of the characters were bots in that game.Seriously if NCsoft wanted they could have cleared most of them a long time ago but they didn't and it most likely wont change now either.

So i gave it a try even though i really hate L2 just to be more disappointed.I kept on leveling through this asian style grindfest just to find out that it is still L2 with wings that i cant use as much as i would want to and with revamped graphics.Thats just my oppinion and i thought i had to write it cause a lot of people doesn't even know what lineage 2 is in the western markets (unfortunately in my country they play it a lot in free servers :P).You can give it a try through open beta and see it from your self but better don't waste your money on it.Then again its your option

thanks

No, it's not Lineage 2.

Not even in the same league with L2 mate. You have zero clue what you are talking about. Thanks for stopping in though.

okay and why is that?

Originally posted by luffyownz

yea i didn't say that it is lineage 2 but it surely is lineage 3 :P

Lineage 3 is another project which will probably be released in 2011.
Aion is far different from Lineage 2.

Thank goodness someone besides me said it.  I agree.  And even though he didn't call it a WoWclone, half of you will disagree with him simply because you cannot OBJECTIVELY look at a game... you only see like it or dislike it... defend it or trash it.  The fact is, L2 was immensely popular in Korea... why WOULDN'T they clone it and pretty it up with more American faces, wings, and bigger _ _ _ _ for the west loving Korean masses?  This game may never compete as strongly on the NA or EU markets with the likes of Blizzard.  However, it will probably be a mainstay of Korean culture for years and years to come. 

Not even close to Lineage 2.

Originally posted by robdog696

Thank goodness someone besides me said it.  I agree.  And even though he didn't call it a WoWclone, half of you will disagree with him simply because you cannot OBJECTIVELY look at a game... you only see like it or dislike it... defend it or trash it.  The fact is, L2 was immensely popular in Korea... why WOULDN'T they clone it and pretty it up with more American faces, wings, and bigger _ _ _ _ for the west loving Korean masses?  This game may never compete as strongly on the NA or EU markets with the likes of Blizzard.  However, it will probably be a mainstay of Korean culture for years and years to come. 

Because there's gonna be a Lineage 3.
Taking aside the theme-park endgame-focused games, Lineage 2 is(was at least) a lot more ruthless to play than Aion is. That's just looking at overall gameplay.

Originally posted by luffyownz

First let me clear that this game is really polished, something that is normal for NCsoft since they have a lot of experience in MMOs.They really have done a great job in the graphics of this game, the lore and the enviroment. But the greatest problem of this game is that "it is too much" Lineage. In every aspect of it

not t's not

thought it was a L2
it's not, so i canceled my preorder.

It's a mix between Korean F2P games and world of warcraft. Can't play F2P korean games + can't play Wow = can't play AION

Aion does not play like Lineage 2 at all. Lineage 2 is a one of kind that only Lineage 3 will replace.

No , it's NOT Lineage 2.

Many replies of disagreement but none said how those two games differ apart from title names...

Originally posted by Gdemami

Many replies of disagreement but none said how those two games differ apart from title names...

The lore..!! and..and... the music is different! 

The graphics are also better, yes!

The skill names are different! Class names as well!

The combat is also completely different. You can fly and you don't spam skills while auto attacking and clicking on mobs to kill them one after anoth...oh wait a second. 

It's like comparing tetris to halo!

Not every game has to borrow WOW's interface or game mechanics.

Makes sense they would stick with elements that made Lineage games popular, hence you see some similarities, however I've played L2 and this game is not very similar at all in fact.

NO WAY

L2> AION

Lineage 2  a game launched in 2003 with awsome gfx, lovey class EVOLUTION system, sieges, raid boses, many races, many classes. had its up and downs, the devs let the bots take overs it but was a great game in ITS TIME.

AION is today shit with old mecanics, NOT SO GREAT gfx, few races, few classes, class advancement quite boring.

Its just a new thing, not big, not small, just new, but a very boring new thing and WE ALL SAW old and better gameplay.

Originally posted by Kenaoshi

NO WAY

L2> AION

Lineage 2  a game launched in 2003 with awsome gfx, lovey class EVOLUTION system, sieges, raid boses, many races, many classes. had its up and downs, the devs let the bots take overs it but was a great game in ITS TIME.

 

AION is today shit with old mecanics, NOT SO GREAT gfx, few races, few classes, class advancement quite boring.

Its just a new thing, not big, not small, just new, but a very boring new thing and WE ALL SAW old and better gameplay.

AGREE AT 100%

 Yet another account made specifically for the purpose of trolling.  GTFO of the forums, I hate when people do that.

I'm not trolling m8 and to all these guys saying that aion doesn't look to lineage at all let me inform em that i have been playing in lineage private servers 2 years ago for over a year and also in the official server for half a year so i have a 73 lvl spell howler and i know what i am talking about..u say they have nothing in common so...

Aion has keeps and fortresses Lineage has too so the main aspect of Aion pvp is the same with lineage,

PVE raid bosses are on the exact same playstyle with easy/no tactics just tank and spank.

Sooo Aion and Lineage Endgame is kinda the same dont u think?

Also look at a Lineage 2 town and a Aion one both town's leader is a NPC called High priest and thats for every lineage town( obviously i dont know about other aion town but i know for pandemonium,

u learn skills through spellbooks u buy,

all classes have mana,

all classes have the ability to sit and that raises their hp/mp regen,

u loose exp when u die,

u have the exactly same emotes and some more in aion,

both games get u started with a general class and u have to do some quest in order to get your profession

there is  also the same pick up ability

the armor design style is exactly the same 

and the character customization at its base is the same though a lot more complicated  (thank god no more porn star like females and ugly gay males)

Also the way that some one "tags" mobs and takes loot by doing the most damage is the same stupid and unfare system with lineage 2 that made worthly the "PK" system that L2 featured.

The main difference that will turn off l2 fans is that Aion has not FFA PVP and so u cant attack the guy that stole your loot or whatever the guy that was in front of you in a bad day or whatever :P

Obviously NC soft didn't learned a lot from the community and its trying to sell another lineage like mmo.

[Seriously now if Aion has all these similarities (and i am sure i didn't list everything) with lineage 2 then how is lineage 3 going to be according to your logic? the exact same game with some new zones/classes on it?]

Oh my god they copied EQ. It has an inventory!

Originally posted by Gdemami

Many replies of disagreement but none said how those two games differ apart from title names...

Aion=small linear world with little freedom.

L2=large landscape with any starting options

Aion=quest based and confined pvp

L2=open pvp and heavy grind and group based

Those are a couple of ways they are very very different. There are more such as class diversity and race differences. 

Ok, granted I have yet to play either Lineage or Lineage 2, the fact remains, Aion has a lot going for it with endgame PvPvE mechanics. I can sit here all day and claim Aion is the next Dark Age of Camelot and people would disagree or agree based on past experience. If Blizzard had enough balls to fix their weak PvP approach to online gaming, then WoW would surely never die. Instead, they refuse to add anything worth while and continue to focus on PvE content which EQ2 is already better at.

Aion will bump WoW out of the #1 MMO spot once Blizzard releases their next WoW Expansion, Cataclysm.

Originally posted by luffyownz

I'm not trolling m8 and to all these guys saying that aion doesn't look to lineage at all let me inform em that i have been playing in lineage private servers 2 years ago for over a year and also in the official server for half a year so i have a 73 lvl spell howler and i know what i am talking about..u say they have nothing in common so...

Aion has keeps and fortresses Lineage has too so the main aspect of Aion pvp is the same with lineage, -which are located in the abyss, and RVR style zone a la DAOC and nothing like the keeps which were in the open world in L2.

PVE raid bosses are on the exact same playstyle with easy/no tactics just tank and spank.  - Its not WOW/EQ, with crafted raids, again more like DAOC, WAR, AOC or many other games, not just L2.

Sooo Aion and Lineage Endgame is kinda the same dont u think?  - No, not really, in Lineage you own the castles and actually set the tax rates for the zones that other players pay you. This is more like DAOC IMO.

Also look at a Lineage 2 town and a Aion one both town's leader is a NPC called High priest and thats for every lineage town( obviously i dont know about other aion town but i know for pandemonium,   - What if they called them both Mayors? But we'll give you this one.

u learn skills through spellbooks u buy, - Er....vs learning them from an NPC like in WOW? EVE uses skill books that you buy to skill up, so maybe they were copying EVE?

all classes have mana, -

all classes have the ability to sit and that raises their hp/mp regen, - Is there a fantasy game out there where that isn't true?  This is a standard mechanic of most RPG 

u loose exp when u die, - Not common in most modern games, but endemic to earlier ones and Asian games. ( i.e Runes of Magic) Not everything needs to be easy mode.  

u have the exactly same emotes and some more in aion, - Granted, why would they change this, how much can you do with emotes, a useless fluff feature, might as well reuse them.

both games get u started with a general class and u have to do some quest in order to get your profession - Again, a standard game mechanic employed by many other games besides L2. (DAOC had it)

there is  also the same pick up ability - as opposed to what? no reason to change it, just a mechanic.

the armor design style is exactly the same - Its in the same Art style, but I don't see identical armor sets.

and the character customization at its base is the same though a lot more complicated  (thank god no more porn star like females and ugly gay males) - Darn, I miss porn star females, but as you said, its a lot more complicated, so makes sense its a natural evolution of a mechanic.

Also the way that some one "tags" mobs and takes loot by doing the most damage is the same stupid and unfare system with lineage 2 that made worthly the "PK" system that L2 featured. - Ack, you just said "unfair" in a PVP game.  Go back to WOW.  No, DAOC had this same system, so it isn't unique to L2.

The main difference that will turn off l2 fans is that Aion has not FFA PVP and so u cant attack the guy that stole your loot or whatever the guy that was in front of you in a bad day or whatever :P - You never could attack anyone in L2 either,  the honor system (going red) really discouraged anyone from taking any real chances.  Can't even really call it a true FFA PVP system.  Meanwhile Aion is RvR....lots different.

Obviously NC soft didn't learned a lot from the community and its trying to sell another lineage like mmo.  - Actually, they kept what they felt worked well, and changed its focus to make an RVR oriented game, a la WAR or DAOC.  But again, its no L2, more like WOW in terms of difficulty.

[Seriously now if Aion has all these similarities (and i am sure i didn't list everything) with lineage 2 then how is lineage 3 going to be according to your logic? the exact same game with some new zones/classes on it?] - Sigh, you fail to see the forest for the trees.

You basically listed game mechanics that are common to many other MMO's, including L2, and called out interface features that worked well in L2 (and many other games) and said see..... looks just like L2.

At their core, Aion is far more friendly to the casual player (that you only played on private shards means you don't understand the real game's difficulty, esp when it first was released) coupled with much more gentle death penalties (in early L2 you could drop your gear when mobs killed you, never mind PK's) and the entire combat focus is RVR which was certainly not L2.

You keep looking at minutia and comparing them without seeing the overall big picture.

Fans of both L2 and Aion will completely disagree with your comparisons of the two games.

As someone already said before, only Lineage 3 will replace L2 (at least for me).

I had the most fun with it's PvP, open and massive. It's a grind-fest, I won't argue about that, and it sucks. BUT L2 is a PvP oriented game, not PvE.

The bots are a problem, but just try to play on a private server with at least 2000 players, and you'll probably enjoy it a little more :)

About Aion, didn't bought it, and won't! (I know the topic is about Aion, but i wanted to say that about L2)

You're one intelligent  person out of the millions of fucks out there, thanks.