ok, it's been a while since I visited WAR the last time. About ten months, back then I quit after 2 months.

When I left there were like 30 european servers with rapidly decreasing populations, heavy faction imbalances and nearly empty RvR areas. PvE was mainly dull fedex except for some cool public quests, still there were only few people doing PQs at all.

So have these flaws been ironed out? How are the new classes? And how many POPULATED EU servers are left?

M

There is 6 Euro servers left at the moment and at least Karak-Azgal there is a bit of problem with Order not going out to play and Destro is just capping zones like it's Christmas 2004.

Sides fluctuate all the time when populations change, should be much better in 1-2 months for Order.

Karak eight peaks is also just about dead.

Originally posted by Newhopes

Karak eight peaks is also just about dead.

Wasn't that THE EU server too?

Eltharion was okish when I quited abouth 1 month ago, but atleast my whole guild quitted at the same time..

I left just before Karak Hirn was moved to Karak Norn about 6 months ago & back then Karak Eight Peaks was just about the highest population server the Euro game had.

If it s "just about dead" now that's quite a shocker.

Originally posted by Skuz

I left just before Karak Hirn was moved to Karak Norn about 6 months ago & back then Karak Eight Peaks was just about the highest population server the Euro game had.

If it s "just about dead" now that's quite a shocker.

It's not quite dead yet but it's not far off needing a merger.

wow, only 6 servers and most of them are dead, did not know that this game was doing that bad

Well I subbed for another month and just rerolled on the highest populated german server carroburg. Population looks ok there, scenarios pop in 10 minute intervals and you run into people, at least during the evenings.

Still it's a bit of a shock how much the server count dropped since last year. Also I've not run across very many changes tbh. Some sound effects seem to be new, audio has three panels to adjust now *yay*, but overall it looks and feels like when I left.

What definitely changed during the year are my expectations. They couldn't be lower at the moment so maybe I'm in for some pleasant surprises.

M

EDIT: Uncool additional fact; my lev 34 Zealot was on one of the RP servers which were obviously merged. And my char is gone. I know they don't _have_ to keep them, but it sure would be one of the few pleasant surprises when returning.

Two remarks:

5 US servers and 6 EU servers means on average around 100/110K subscriptions. at MAXIMUM capacity.

That is being confirmed by Xfire these days where (with a 3 point reference (wow,eve,lotro), you can see the game is now holding out at around 90-100K players.

I think though some players will come back in the winter, if nothing already for the Warhammer name. And Aion is, well .... go read the web. Aion doesn't kill War, that's for sure.

But it is all in the hands of EA now. At launch they said War needed 250K subs to survive. Since then they restructured and cut Mythic as a seperate branche. I think the absolute limit is 60K.

Oh you can be sure that I won't put in as much effort and compassion as I did in the past; or in other games. If it's fun, it will be fun while it lasts. The complete absence of roleplaying and exploration content will never be able to get me excited...

BUT: I learned one lesson from SWG, they messed it up in 2005, and every year people would go "this one will shut down before the year ends, I bet my right arm on this!", what happened? - It's still there, there are still people playing. Games need to be massive, MASSIVE failures to be shut down, PLUS they need no or weak IPs (like Tabula Rasa). A game with Warhammer on it will probably live longer than many expect...

M

Just been talking to some people off Eltharion the last EU ORVR server it seems there servers struggling and there pop been on a sharpe decline over the last month or 2.

6 servers? Wow.

I was wondering how many servers WoW have for EU and I was actually quite surprised it's that many heh. 109 EU English speaking realms. 

You can't compare WoW to anything else on the market. Not by quality or gameplay standards but by 'population through snowball effect' standards...

M

There were 126 servers at launch, so er... well over a hundred servers are closed.

Which was, very, VERY predictable actually.

At least when you look at the EU servers. People were - from day 1 - not populating a good percentage of the servers. I know because on day 1 I started on a RP-OpenRVR server and the population there never kicked off. I leveled my WE to about 24, 25 only by quests, because there would be nobody to do RVR against and no SCs popping.

So that's that, adding the fact that the game disappointed a huge amount of people; From the coop-PvE lovers who started to hate the "kill valyrion firebrand and 5 axe-warriors"-treadmill to the core-PvP lovers who hated the concept of PvP with absolutely no personal consequences.

So at least I was not surprised about the server count when I returned. 4 German servers seem absolutely reasonable for a regular game with some 100k subs (I don't give a damn about the subs anyways, there only needs to be 1 server with a living pop - and that's the one I'm playing on).

M

I found most of the launch day servers to be rather full with people.  800k players over 100 servers makes for a decent number of accounts per server.  People keep saying there were to many servers, but I think that is just a result of people leaving so quickly.  You could really fee the drop off after the first month of the game when many players first free month was up.  I think it was the second month when my group of friends opted to start over on new servers, because ours had went from med-high to low all the time.  It was simply amazing how fast the game emptied out. 

I can fully understand a RP-Open RVR server not taking off.  Somehow I don't see a lot of open RVR players being very interested in role playing.  They seem to be polar opposites.

A decades old popular European based IP (Warhammer) that has six struggling servers left in Europe.

Not good.

I'd imagine its like if people just lost interest in Mario Games in Japan, or the people in the U.S. had no more interest in Mickey Mouse.

Originally posted by popinjay

A decades old popular European based IP (Warhammer) that has six struggling servers left in Europe.

 

Not good.

 

I'd imagine its like if people just lost interest in Mario Games in Japan, or the people in the U.S. had no more interest in Mickey Mouse.

MMO players lost interest in War, but not War TT players in this ip, so its quite different...

I started playing war week ago on Karak Norn, so i can just talk about t1-t2. RvR is very active from 6 pm to 11 pm, you can get in scenarios in 1-2 mins. Factions seem to be balanced and win lose ratio is around 50%. Well at least from my experience.

TBH, the scenarios and the initial fun-factor in RvR were never WARs problems imo. I think what drives the majority of people off is the lack of any solid endgame...

Originally posted by Meridion

TBH, the scenarios and the initial fun-factor in RvR were never WARs problems imo. I think what drives the majority of people off is the lack of any solid endgame...

Actually that's the problem, the only RvR initially is only SC. Only until the beta players start their outcry, about 8 months, before launch did Mythic add in keeps...

Another new transfer! K8P this time.

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Originally posted by popinjay

A decades old popular European based IP (Warhammer) that has six struggling servers left in Europe.

 

Not good.

 

I'd imagine its like if people just lost interest in Mario Games in Japan, or the people in the U.S. had no more interest in Mickey Mouse.

The 40K IP seems to be working better as a gaming franchise (probly because Relic KNOW what the IP is) - Mark J ran WAR into the ground by supporting the 'avoid pvp' crowd too much The Tomb kings area proved that he wanted a pve game - Warhammer and things not fighting in a bloodly war equals dead idea from the start - Sad to say WAR makes Mark of Chaos look good (considering that was marketed as a 'true version of the TT' and ended up nothing like it).

Kinda wish Gamesworkshop was more hands on with their exturnal projects, instead of just 'yea looks good', all WAR is is IP exposure

Originally posted by arctarus

Another new transfer! K8P this time.

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Thats one more down just 5 more to go.