Originally posted by mortharx

Originally posted by Leodious

I like to surf the net, watch videos, etc. while gaming and this would prevent this. It is a terrible idea and no one will ever go for it. If you want to play without cheating, play on a console.

 

WTF kind of sucky games you are playing at that you want to do such things WHILE PLAYING?!?!?!

OMG WoW has indeed ruined the MMO's forever.

Hell Eve and EQ2 have ingame browers for this stuff...why pick on WoW?

Originally posted by Tisiphone

if I couldn't run Winamp while gaming I would be very irritable. ^^ Or export screenshots. Or look at forums on the internet whilst lfg (which won't run properly without scripts enabled or browser add-ons.) Finally, I'll be damned if I'm going to be forced to use IE on my own PC.

Winamp wow, there's a decade old flashback. People still use Winamp in modern times?

You, OP, have just described a console. Congratulations, your idea has come to life. Enjoy.

Originally posted by mortharx

Originally posted by SgtFrog

is this topic about cheating or WoW and WoW clones now, im lost

 

No this topic is about PLAYING GAMES! No eating, surfing, cheating, watching videos while you play.

The actual PLAYING PART that gets ruined due to easymode and cheating!!!!

Thats what THIS TOPIC is about!

Your OS would prevent you from eating? Im all for new ideas and such for real and would never call your idea dumb but I do not agree with your idea.

Originally posted by mortharx

Originally posted by Leodious

I like to surf the net, watch videos, etc. while gaming and this would prevent this. It is a terrible idea and no one will ever go for it. If you want to play without cheating, play on a console.

 

WTF kind of sucky games you are playing at that you want to do such things WHILE PLAYING?!?!?!

OMG WoW has indeed ruined the MMO's forever.

I did that in WOW, because there was downtime.

Earlier MMOs there was more downtime -- as a result I didn't even play those games :P

Find a game which cuts out the majority of downtime (Guild Wars was one) and you'll find I was playing the game the entire time.)

Even in Champions Online where you get a travel power and travel times are 20-30 seconds to a quest, I'm in my 2nd monitor browsing (usually MMORPG.com :P)    It's amusing too, since my main character has Teleport (which requires me to click over and hit T twice every 4-5 seconds.)

I think OP has a wonderful idea.
Any time you'd access database sites(like, when you type "<insert random MMO> <insert random thing> info", you cannot go on that MMO for 6 hours. If you do it again, you'll get a last warning. If you do it three times, your PC should blow up!
Damn those cheaters.

Originally posted by mortharx

Originally posted by Leodious

I like to surf the net, watch videos, etc. while gaming and this would prevent this. It is a terrible idea and no one will ever go for it. If you want to play without cheating, play on a console.

 

WTF kind of sucky games you are playing at that you want to do such things WHILE PLAYING?!?!?!

OMG WoW has indeed ruined the MMO's forever.

LOL people spent time on forums and trade sites during their games long before wow.  Even more humerous, I love your poll.  Either we love your idea (which I will admit is not as far fetched as some believe), or we are cheaters.  You don't actually expect people to take you seriously do you?

This thread = win.  End all of end all to all threads on this website.  God forbid you want to multi-task while you have downtime in a MMO.  if I couldn't multitask I'd go crazy while 5 of my friends dicked around trying to get what they need to go into a dungeon, or travel to the dungeon.  How about this OP, GTFO.

I actually have trouble focussing on one thing and often need to multi-task to help my mind from getting bored and/or distracted. (no, i am not ADHD). Along with this I often want to watch the news, or the latest episode of a television show while gaming and then i will usually window the game, mute game sound, and set up split screen.

There is also the second issue where in some games there is actually plenty of time to do work while the game is running, during my time playing Eve I would often sit mining with a window while I typed assessments, keeping one eye on screen in case I was needed.
 

Finally: this would mean less people would use OS that had this type of disability, as a result it will not be implemented...

I like the idea of a cut down OS for gaming.  It should run faster, and allow those cutting edge games to run more smoothly.

The full version of the OS should be compatible the gaming version. 

Not allowing mods or other software to run could have a lot of unforeseen drawbacks.  For example:

• What about people with disabilities that have software running in the background to enable them to use a computer?
• You might have some software that you need to run in the background for real life reasons such as particular piece of communications software.
• How can any OS distinguish between legitimate mods and mods used for cheating in a world where new software is being released all the time and old software is constantly updated?

I like your idea and i play WOW:)

Originally posted by mortharx

THATS RIGHT! Microsoft can ELIMINATE the cheating and botting in MMO's for good EASILY!!

Here is how:

Provide a limited gaming version of your OS as a gaming platform for any MMO.

Leave only features that are essential to play the game and REMOVE EVERYTHING ELSE.

Including removing multitasking! There is no need for the gamer to be running any 3rd party software while playing!

The only thing that comes to mind that could be needed would be playing custom music, teamspeak, and web browsing features. The player doesn't need anything else! Those can be integrated into the OS or the game itself and that IS ALL that is needed while playing an MMO.

Installation of 3rd party softwares and any kind of coding should be disabled!

Here's how it would work:

The OS would come with the game install or separately whatever would work best.

They would install as a parallel OS with the normal one that you could choose from your BOOT MANAGER everytime you boot up your computer.

Wrapped into a designated drive encryped and in such format that it can't be accessed via other operating systems.

AS A BONUS! Increased gaming performance due to the lite build no needless processes eating up the resources and slowing down your computer! PURE GAMING!

Encryption doesn't solve everything. It can be broken and will be broken. Also, the encryption key is stored somewhere that is accessible to someone with physical access to the machine.

You cannot stop someone from getting the OS out of RAM or really from reading it off the hard drive. Once someone has the OS, let the cheating begin as it will be hacked to allow cheating. There are emerging platform capabilities for doing this kind of thing. Woot, vendors creating hacking tools? Oh, I mean corporate spying tools.

Never assume secrecy has solved your problem. People will figure out how it works, even without the source or compiled code, and make their own.

It only takes one person to break the system and deliver that broken system to all and there will be a million plus people working on the problem.

A non-multitasking OS? Well, boot that OS inside a VMM. Now, the game really has no chance of knowing what I'm doing to cheat. The OS loaded as the VM? Well, I have physical access to the machine, let me put a new VM under it. Different hardware would be needed to make this particular one useful.

Cheating cannot be stopped. The best bet is to make it cost prohibitive to cheat but this typically ends up costing the normal user money too.

Yeah, I have to agree with others here when I say that you just described an Xbox 360. This works well for a console but would be a terrible idea for any PC game. There are other ways to handle cheating that are much less evasive to the end user. I thought Steam was bad when Half Life 2 came out but this would be just horrible. Worst cheating fix I've ever heard.

Bren

 lol only one way to reduce boting if you stop moving for 3 minute your booted 

Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

Originally posted by Tisiphone

if I couldn't run Winamp while gaming I would be very irritable. ^^ Or export screenshots. Or look at forums on the internet whilst lfg (which won't run properly without scripts enabled or browser add-ons.) Finally, I'll be damned if I'm going to be forced to use IE on my own PC.

 

Winamp wow, there's a decade old flashback. People still use Winamp in modern times?

Why not, it works well, so why switch?

What else should I use, that is apparently more modern and presumably better?

Originally posted by Liljna

Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

Originally posted by Tisiphone

if I couldn't run Winamp while gaming I would be very irritable. ^^ Or export screenshots. Or look at forums on the internet whilst lfg (which won't run properly without scripts enabled or browser add-ons.) Finally, I'll be damned if I'm going to be forced to use IE on my own PC.

 

Winamp wow, there's a decade old flashback. People still use Winamp in modern times?

 

Why not, it works well, so why switch?

What else should I use, that is apparently more modern and presumably better?

Nothing. But there are schmucks that use iTunes and Windows Media Player.

I didn't vote because I don't like this idea, but I don't cheat either.

I fail to see how this will stop anyone from cheating.

Software can be hacked and altered easily.

Your solution would have a workaround within hours of being released guaranteed.

Originally posted by Liljna

Originally posted by SnarlingWolf

Originally posted by Tisiphone

if I couldn't run Winamp while gaming I would be very irritable. ^^ Or export screenshots. Or look at forums on the internet whilst lfg (which won't run properly without scripts enabled or browser add-ons.) Finally, I'll be damned if I'm going to be forced to use IE on my own PC.

 

Winamp wow, there's a decade old flashback. People still use Winamp in modern times?

 

Why not, it works well, so why switch?

What else should I use, that is apparently more modern and presumably better?

I still use winamp! Is there something more advanced I should use that makes my music sound better or something? Also I know a good reason to use Winamp over Mediaplayer but probably shouldn't talk to much about it :)

THIS THREAD HAS GIVEN ME AN IDEA FOR PREVENTING UNWANTED PREGNANCY! CHEMICAL CASTRATION FOR ALL! THAT WAY NO ONE WILL BE GETTING PREGNANT AND WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THOSE ANNOYING STARVING CHILDREN!

I'm a gamer but I want to surf the net while playing during downtime and such >.> Idea fails to casuals who want to surf the net like and hardcore players needing damage calculators and all that jazz >.>