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Originally posted by Leg3nd4ry1
What a poster again. :(. I highlighted the blue, just in case you didn't found the errors in his post. He started in december 08 ... and quit in February after and I quote reaching 80 "... doing some raids over and over again..." Welcome friend, you are about the 265th I found lying in these WOW forums. Sure you will not be the last to piss on Wow. And then they ask why :)))) |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
What a poster again. :(. I highlighted the blue, just in case you didn't found the errors in his post. He started in december 08 ... and quit in February after and I quote reaching 80 "... doing some raids over and over again..." Welcome friend, you are about the 265th I found lying in these WOW forums. Sure you will not be the last to piss on Wow. And then they ask why :)))) im not sure if you leveled a toon latelly but if he played a bit its fairly easy to level to 80 and have done lot of raid in 3 month lol 1 to 60 can be leveled so easy wow had too add a system for player that wants to lock their level why! they didnt need to go to dungeon anymore and missed the best lore in wow i doont recall the exact time but if i recall athene level from 1 to 80 in 48 hours if i recall corectly or somewhere around that so a noob like me could easyly level to 60 withing say a week ,3 weeks hes 80 or has been raiding a while did you know i raided ankiraj about the time he was leving his toon (i was level 57 i dont see any lie in his post kiddy ?probably!but no lies |
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If you are a first time player in WOW you can't level to lvl 80 .... "and do Raids all over " in 6 weeks time (December till Feb). It's a laugh - and I already caught a lot of these guys before. Mostly they come back and explain I misunderstood their timing. They never go into detail, they don't have 'the feel' of the game and they just post about WOW. Most don't come back after a few weeks and take on another name. Why? Beats me. Perhaps another frustrated one, perhaps a GW pusher this time. I don't mind, as long as they make mistakes like this it is easy to pick them out. I don't even want to discuss it as it clearly showed his post didn't touch truth. I know WOW inside out and help him backing up his story reminds me of a pure copy/paste of a few months ago. Fat chance you were leveling with him yes. I know what a coincidence :))))) out of 6 million western players. Scratch my back. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf I didnt say frustrated i said disgusted. And again the game doesnt disgust me its the blizz worship practiced by those that defend the game no matter how silly it becomes. Can anyone tell me how a game with space travelers and the tetechnology to build helicopters and motorcycles cannot develop a weapon more advanced than a black powder rifle? Ive also wondered why the space travelers use clubs instead of ray guns. Im sure there is a reasonable explanation for it somewhere within the deep lore of Warcraft. Tell me why Jedi Knights come out of space ships and use sabres ?!?!? Tell me why you worshipped Warhammer and you can have Gyrocopters in that Lore and Dwarf tanks (in the TT version at least - because in the MMO you had to IMAGINE you were flying). See the frustration rising :))))
I worshipped Warhamer? Ive played several MMO's and enjoyed some of them but worship is not something i feel toward any of them. My max toon in War is i think 21. Keep slugging away champ, maybe someday you can convince yourself that aliens fly in spaceships and yet club their enemies with ancient weapons. As why for light sabres its a tradition of the Jedi if i remember my lore correctly. I guess you have no answer as to the motorcycles and helicopters either. Yeah, WOW pretty much sucks in the lore dept. as well as in general. It has to be true, i have internet links. |
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Originally posted by grandpagamer I worshipped Warhamer? Ive played several MMO's and enjoyed some of them but worship is not something i feel toward any of them. My max toon in War is i think 21. Keep slugging away champ, maybe someday you can convince yourself that aliens fly in spaceships and yet club their enemies with ancient weapons. As why for light sabres its a tradition of the Jedi if i remember my lore correctly. I guess you have no answer as to the motorcycles and helicopters either. Yeah, WOW pretty much sucks in the lore dept. as well as in general.
Motorcycles and helicopters are invented by the gnomes Ir's. it is their tradition and you already find tanks and mobile engines as long as the Lore of Warcraft exists. It baffles me you can accept Star Wars spaceships that beam down other spaceships with nucleair ammunition, while a Jedi knight fights with sabres when they come out of their cockpits... Wow you pretty much XXX when talking about your WOW frustrations.
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Wow im not lying....why would i lie? My character name was Thaeron and i played an affliction warlock on misha server part of the guild Mishan Impossible. It was fairly easy to level to 80 in just like 2 months of focusing on quests. but whatever...
here is the info from my account page Account Created:
its not EXACTLY what i said but it is damn near close, a few days off. thank you and have a nice day. care to see for urself? heres a screen shot! http://img29.imageshack.us/i/proofyl.jpg/
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
Motorcycles and helicopters are invented by the gnomes Ir's. it is their tradition and you already find tanks and mobile engines as long as the Lore of Warcraft exists. It baffles me you can accept Star Wars spaceships that beam down other spaceships with nucleair ammunition, while a Jedi knight fights with sabres when they come out of their cockpits... Wow you pretty much XXX when talking about your WOW frustrations.
I bet the alien technology was all destroyed in the crash and they all also have amnesia from bumping their heads and cant remember how to replace it so it kinda threw them all back into the stoneage. Maybe with the next xpac the gnomes will come up with space travel as well so the blue guys with tails can all go home and re learn their technology and come back and blow up the orcs and undead. Just an idea but im sure Blizz has a much better explanation. Im really disappointed that you do not know this stuff. It has to be true, i have internet links. |
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Originally posted by drbaltazar im not sure if you leveled a toon latelly but if he played a bit its fairly easy to level to 80 and have done lot of raid in 3 month lol 1 to 60 can be leveled so easy wow had too add a system for player that wants to lock their level why! they didnt need to go to dungeon anymore and missed the best lore in wow i doont recall the exact time but if i recall athene level from 1 to 80 in 48 hours if i recall corectly or somewhere around that so a noob like me could easyly level to 60 withing say a week ,3 weeks hes 80 or has been raiding a while did you know i raided ankiraj about the time he was leving his toon (i was level 57 i dont see any lie in his post kiddy ?probably!but no lies Actually, its not an issue of "can it be done", it is more of an issue of "Can one do it and enjoy the game?". The answer is no. He says he played from December 08 to February. That is, at most, 8 weeks. Since December is a holiday period and also you take into account all of the maintenance days and everything else, you are left with about 6 weeks total. Now granted that is a long time and one can level in that time but I doubt that one could enjoy the game and experience everything WOW has to offer. My thought is he either got powerleveled (and by the way, your comment about Athene has no place here and you should know why) or he used mods to help him level like QuestHelper. What I think happened is a combination of both, he rushed to 80 to raid and grew bored with the game. Remember, the context of his post is that WOW grew old and boring so we are not talking running Naxx 2 or 3 times. In addition to that, we are not talking PVP, crafting, doing a lot of instances along the way, etc.... So I do not think its lies either, its just that, in my opinion, if one rushes to level 80 and then complains about growing bored, they only have themself to blame |
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Originally posted by templarga im not sure if you leveled a toon latelly but if he played a bit its fairly easy to level to 80 and have done lot of raid in 3 month lol 1 to 60 can be leveled so easy wow had too add a system for player that wants to lock their level why! they didnt need to go to dungeon anymore and missed the best lore in wow i doont recall the exact time but if i recall athene level from 1 to 80 in 48 hours if i recall corectly or somewhere around that so a noob like me could easyly level to 60 withing say a week ,3 weeks hes 80 or has been raiding a while did you know i raided ankiraj about the time he was leving his toon (i was level 57 i dont see any lie in his post kiddy ?probably!but no lies Actually, its not an issue of "can it be done", it is more of an issue of "Can one do it and enjoy the game?". The answer is no. He says he played from December 08 to February. That is, at most, 8 weeks. Since December is a holiday period and also you take into account all of the maintenance days and everything else, you are left with about 6 weeks total. Now granted that is a long time and one can level in that time but I doubt that one could enjoy the game and experience everything WOW has to offer. My thought is he either got powerleveled (and by the way, your comment about Athene has no place here and you should know why) or he used mods to help him level like QuestHelper. What I think happened is a combination of both, he rushed to 80 to raid and grew bored with the game. Remember, the context of his post is that WOW grew old and boring so we are not talking running Naxx 2 or 3 times. In addition to that, we are not talking PVP, crafting, doing a lot of instances along the way, etc.... So I do not think its lies either, its just that, in my opinion, if one rushes to level 80 and then complains about growing bored, they only have themself to blame
i laugh at your people and your ignorance. I enjoyed the game the entire time i played it. and yes i did have time to do naxx more than a few and even tried out malygos once or twice. Simply because i got bored of the game after i started doing raids does not mean i rushed through and did not enjoy the content that the game had to offer. I had alot of time on my hands those few months. I've been going to college and during that particular time i didn't work or have school so i didn't have much else to do during that time. The game lacked much to do after 80 but the same couple of raid dungeons repeatedly. i already posted what i could to make my point seem valid, but i really hate it when people call me a liar. I have different tastes than you, and though i leveled fast, it does not mean i did not stop to enjoy the scenery. Yes i did crafting, yes i did pvp, and yes i did alot of instances as well. I had a dedicated group of friends that i played with. Look up my character if you wish, but please, do not call me a liar or bash me again simply because i had a different opinion. Obviously i achieved something in a faster time than you and it makes you feel less superior. I'm not calling myself better than you in any way but I'm sorry if you feel that you must insult me for that. |
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Originally posted by Leg3nd4ry1 Actually, its not an issue of "can it be done", it is more of an issue of "Can one do it and enjoy the game?". The answer is no. He says he played from December 08 to February. That is, at most, 8 weeks. Since December is a holiday period and also you take into account all of the maintenance days and everything else, you are left with about 6 weeks total. Now granted that is a long time and one can level in that time but I doubt that one could enjoy the game and experience everything WOW has to offer. My thought is he either got powerleveled (and by the way, your comment about Athene has no place here and you should know why) or he used mods to help him level like QuestHelper. What I think happened is a combination of both, he rushed to 80 to raid and grew bored with the game. Remember, the context of his post is that WOW grew old and boring so we are not talking running Naxx 2 or 3 times. In addition to that, we are not talking PVP, crafting, doing a lot of instances along the way, etc.... So I do not think its lies either, its just that, in my opinion, if one rushes to level 80 and then complains about growing bored, they only have themself to blame
i laugh at your people and your ignorance. I enjoyed the game the entire time i played it. and yes i did have time to do naxx more than a few and even tried out malygos once or twice. Simply because i got bored of the game after i started doing raids does not mean i rushed through and did not enjoy the content that the game had to offer. I had alot of time on my hands those few months. I've been going to college and during that particular time i didn't work or have school so i didn't have much else to do during that time. The game lacked much to do after 80 but the same couple of raid dungeons repeatedly. i already posted what i could to make my point seem valid, but i really hate it when people call me a liar. I have different tastes than you, and though i leveled fast, it does not mean i did not stop to enjoy the scenery. Yes i did crafting, yes i did pvp, and yes i did alot of instances as well. I had a dedicated group of friends that i played with. Look up my character if you wish, but please, do not call me a liar or bash me again simply because i had a different opinion. Obviously i achieved something in a faster time than you and it makes you feel less superior. I'm not calling myself better than you in any way but I'm sorry if you feel that you must insult me for that. Actually, I said I didn't think you were lying....just that things don't add up. And no you are not superior because I could care less how quick or how fast you leveled. Honestly, I have several 80s and have played WOW off and on since release and truly enjoyed almost every minute of it. You contradicted yourself again. You said there is nothing to do at 80 other than the "same couple of raid dungeons" but then go on to say you did PVP, crafting, and instances.....so which is it? Nothing to do or lots to do. Also, 99% of college's start back in January and the start of the Spring semester or quarter is in January and is one of the busiest times (next to August/September, December and May/June). JUST FYI...... |
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I can't keep up this bickering, its pointless. I'm sorry i stated an opinion that was different. |
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Originally posted by Leg3nd4ry1 Dude, your opinion is fine and I totally respect that. You can play however you want and that is cool. All I am saying is that some comments just don't make a lot of sense to me (like saying you grew bored and there was nothing to do at level 80 but then saying you did a lot of stuff) and just looking for some clarification is all. |
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Originally posted by templarga Dude, your opinion is fine and I totally respect that. You can play however you want and that is cool. All I am saying is that some comments just don't make a lot of sense to me (like saying you grew bored and there was nothing to do at level 80 but then saying you did a lot of stuff) and just looking for some clarification is all.
ok for clarification, i maxed out my crafting skills, played through the raids, and went through all the bgs and wintergrasp. After all was said and done, i just felt like i needed a change of scenery. It was alot of work and alot of fun, but people started taking the game to seriously, i didnt feel like i wanted to level another toon to 80 just for the game to lose its fun appeal. The process of getting there was fun, but when people started acting the way they did, ruining whole raid groups just cuz they wouldn't get promoted to raid leader (even though my friend started the group), etc., i just thought it wasnt worth it in my end to get to the same point where things became repetitive and lost its entertainment value. It became more like a job than a source of enjoyment after a while. can we just get along and stop arguing now :( |
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Tisiphone
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Look how long DAOC and EQ1 lasted. People are still playing EQ1. MMORPGs last a -long time-. People invest months of playtime in their characters and its really hard to hit the "cancel subscription" button. Plus, people want to stick with their friends. WoW had huge momentum from the start. Blizzard had a huge fan base, as did the Warcraft series. They have always been good at developing immersive lore and solid play systems. So, everybody who loved Warcraft, Starcraft, and Diablo II had high hopes for WoW. And for what it is, it delivered. They could afford to spend the time to develop a lot of content and work out most bugs pre-release. They hooked in a huge fan base and didn't lose them to early bugs or boredom. I don't think that WoW is the best MMORPG. I don't think its the most innovative. I think it was implemented very well and had the PR and money to hook a large fan base early on and encourage them to invite their friends in too. I don't think there is any such thing as a "WoW Killer". MMORPGs don't get killed by other MMORPGs because people, like I stated above, have too much invested to drop everything for another game unless they have real motivation to do so (friends playing another game, perhaps), or because they're bored or frustrated. When the motivations to leave the game outweigh the motivation to stay, they play a new game. Because a lot of people started their MMO career on WoW, it will be hard to entice them to leave until they simply get bored. Me, I played WoW, got sick of it, quit, came back for the expansions to give them a shot, and quit again. But I played many MMOs before WoW, got over the heartache of deleting a character, and it wasn't that big of a deal to me. Everybody out there needs to think of how difficult it would be to delete their primary character on their favorite MMO. That's not something you buy away with a good or innovative game. Its something you leech away slowly as the last big thing wears down.
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
Well for one thing, it will not even touch the intial sales of 750K those games had back then. Xfire. But enough already has come out in the prelaunch of Aion to see it won't even hang out around EVE sub numbers. Gameguard issues, auto-following a target in ... a PvP game (you can't be serious), ONE class (Assasin) that has 48% representation in that one zone of PvP (Abyss), no pets, no mounts, no flying mounts, no BG's, no underwater worlds, no realtime destruction, a VERY small world, zoning, very linair build up world (a la WAR) .... and most of all. No responsive actions from Raid bosses. Meaning you see the boss standing still, you see the tank standing still, you see the healer standing and you see the dps standing still for 15 minutes and s l o w l y downing the boss. http://www.xfire.com/video/1038cd/ : see a typical Aion boss in .... action (?) . How exciting ....BTW that video lasts 1.5 minutes with the boss already at less than 5% .... YAwn..... indeed. The above already shows why those supposed million of internet café players in China are back to playing WOW these days. Even in Korea WOW has 100 servers against 42 for Aion. And that's the HOMELAND of this Korean copycat.
Is this guy really this much of a fanboy? If a game has been out for 4 years its going to have more content than a game coming out. It would be a coding nightmare to try and do it all at once. But hey reality is in play on these forums am I right? |
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Originally posted by Angier2758
Aion is not "coming out". It is already a year old and the pain list of the Korean is growing by the minute. (forums are fulll of it). Well, too bad for a game that was to kill WOW for its fans (and they CAME here for months). How many lies did we need to hear about the millions of players on the free internet cafés (coupled with the usual pain in the ass WOW comments) ? Time to put a few lines straight before the balloon bursts into tears. Does that bother you ? :) |
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WoW is digital Heroine ... it's the carrot on the stick that keeps people playing it ... the addiction ... the crave for higher levels and better gear. Blizzard obviously has the best pharmasists :) |
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Originally posted by Angier2758
Is this guy really this much of a fanboy? If a game has been out for 4 years its going to have more content than a game coming out. It would be a coding nightmare to try and do it all at once. But hey reality is in play on these forums am I right? The concern about scripted bosses is legit. What bothers me is that when I ask it on certain sites, they say "ZOMG NO MORE WOW". Because scripted bosses and a bigger difficulty than tank and spank is a thing met in WoW only. Comparing MMOs with burger companies-the epitome of logic. |
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Originally posted by Miffin
EQ was the last top dog for over 5 years. Of course another game will become the dominant game sooner or later. But it have to be good, well made and be released in the right time. My bets are for Guildwars 2. The first GW have sold over 6 million copies and it was an instanced low budget game. The second game will be a full budget MMO with a persistan world (in a way no other MMO have had before, WAR was supposed to be in a persistant world but it was one of the things they cutted). In GW2 you will be able to change the gameworld around you. It also have amazing graphics and no monthly fees. The GFX engine is made by the same team that originally made Wows GFX engine too (before Kaplan took over). I don't see ow Wow can compete with that. Of course the game is still at least a year into the future so Wow will be the king for a while longer. Bioware also have the potential to make a big MMO but they don't have the same fan group as Blizzard. It is more likely that they will get a lot of new players into the genre, like Wow did in the beginning. I still don't see it getting more than 2 million players however. Then Blizzard are also releasing a new MMO later. Most of the true Blizz fans will most likely move over to it. But none of these games will kill Wow, only Wow 2 could possibly do that. 10 year old games like UO and EQ is still around. |
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Originally posted by Zorndorf Aion did a pretty good job taking Wow subs in Korea and China. It wont here of course and in Chine it got a boost from the fact that the Wow servers got taken down by the goverment but you shouldn't still laugh at Aion. I don't see it having a big impact in the west but my most Blizzard fanatic friend actually started to play it, it is the first MMO besides Wow he is playing since Wows release. Some players will they loose. Wow had a great run already, you can't be so blind that you think it will be the biggest game ever. Aion is not the game that will take over in the west but some other game will sooner or later. Otherwise we would all still play Meridian 59, computer games change and evolve and no game no matter how good it is will be the top game forever, Well possibly Tetris. |
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Originally posted by Loke666
The announced 12 servers of Aion in EU and US will not make the difference, but you are also wrong about those Asian figures. Aion in Korea had ONE (I repeat one) server added in 2009, and WOW has 100 servers alone in Korea. As for China: WOW is back up and did it occur to you that it is VERY odd Taiwan has 100 WOW servers (that's around 1.000.000 Players/subs .... for a country of 2.5 M people ?). No wonder Blizzard made even more money than the year before.... with the 7 weeks hic-up in China mainland). As for the great run: With CAT hold on to your hats. I hope Blizzard will awake their server stress teams in time when that baby will launch. Servers like Al'akir-EU will be virtually unplayable at launch. And WoTLK techniques now used in basic leveling from lvl 1 - 60., I think you'll be amazed about the MANY basic stuff added in those expansions you didn't even see. WOW is just as old as its latest expansion/patch. Of course Blizzard can afford it to tune the graphics in relation to their average client parc by simply sampling the millions of hardware data. So this baby gets a restart in ol' Azeroth in 2010. And nobody is going to stop it, and certainly not the daily 200 posters logged in on mmorpg.com (corrected that's 179 at this moment).
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Originally posted by Zorndorf
The announced 12 servers of Aion in EU and US will not make the difference, but you are also wrong about those Asian figures. Aion in Korea had ONE (I repeat one) server added in 2009, and WOW has 100 servers alone in Korea. As for China: WOW is back up and did it occur to you that it is VERY odd Taiwan has 100 WOW servers (that's around 1.000.000 Players/subs .... for a country of 2.5 M people ?). No wonder Blizzard made even more money than the year before.... with the 7 weeks hic-up in China mainland). As for the great run: With CAT hold on to your hats. I hope Blizzard will awake their server stress teams in time when that baby will launch. Servers like Al'akir-EU will be virtually unplayable at launch. And WoTLK techniques now used in basic leveling from lvl 1 - 60., I think you'll be amazed about the MANY basic stuff added in those expansions you didn't even see. WOW is just as old as its latest expansion/patch. Of course Blizzard can afford it to tune the graphics in relation to their average client parc by simply sampling the millions of hardware data. So this baby gets a restart in ol' Azeroth in 2010. And nobody is going to stop it, and certainly not the daily 200 posters logged in on mmorpg.com (corrected that's 179 at this moment).
How bad would it be if WOW lost the number one slot in subs? Would the hardcore fanboys be able to stand it or would they move on to whatever the current number one game is? Enjoying a game is one thing, obsessing about it is something completely different. You are very odd. It has to be true, i have internet links. |
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a) you all are not investors so market share means shit. b) a server, if it's lucky, has 5,000 people. Plus it's heavily instanced. True MMO's don't instance and have more people playing at the same time on one server. So while WoW has the most subscribers spread of many servers, it fails as an MMO from an individual players perspective.. |
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Originally posted by Ruyn
Mmm how did it taste when you read the above slap in your faces hmm? Did it taste good? Cuz he's absolutely right and truth really does hurt doesn't it? Oh and to the OPs original question, it's being done as we speak. It's called Aion. Have a nice day. ;)
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I just wonder. Wow is a crap game simple as that . It is made for kids and populated by annoying brats. The main problem with wow is that most of its playerbase never played another MMO and they dont know where to go or what else to play. People writing about Wow allways yap about the number of players and that number is a complete fabrication. I dont see more people running around in Wow than people running around in EQ2. And yes I tried WoW and i have friends that plays it too. IMO WoW is the most over hyped shitty old POS and I would rather spend a full year paying to play Ultima Online than beeing payed a full year to play WoW. There now, that felt good to offload. you can bash now but i will only feel sorry for you not anger :)
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