Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

  The argument for MO is all about how things could get better since nearly all of the core features are not even in the game yet.

Don't tell lies just because the internet protects you.

 

Crafting is in. Gathering is in. Mobs are in. PVP is in. Full looting is in.They just added magic today. So most of the core features are in. You are the one who is lying.

 

You're not even in the beta are you lol.  Crafting is a placeholder NPC because the system is not even close to being finished and everyone who's bothered to read the forums or the patch notes (not protected by NDA) can tell you that.  Full Loot is broken (still also in patch notes).  Magic is in as a placeholder as well (also clearly printed in the patch notes not protected by NDA).  And none of the other features are in or working like the flagging system, the economy, housing, mounts, crafting mini games, combat abilities, second teir skills, etc....

And there are a grand total of 10 mobs in the game in extremely limited spawns because they can't get the massiveLOD system to work.

All of this is public knowledge and not protected by NDA.  Why are you trying to argue it?

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

You're not even in the beta are you lol.  Crafting is a placeholder NPC because the system is not even close to being finished and everyone who's bothered to read the forums or the patch notes (not protected by NDA) can tell you that.  Full Loot is broken (still also in patch notes).  Magic is in as a placeholder as well (also clearly printed in the patch notes not protected by NDA).  And none of the other features are in or working like the flagging system, the economy, housing, mounts, crafting mini games, combat abilities, second teir skills, etc....

And there are a grand total of 10 mobs in the game in extremely limited spawns because they can't get the massiveLOD system to work.

All of this is public knowledge and not protected by NDA.  Why are you trying to argue it?

None of those things are totally complete, but yes they are all in the game. You can craft, you can gather, you can do pvp, you can kill mobs. So what are you trying to argue? That the game isn't 100% complete as of right now? Of course it isn't. Its beta and this game won't be released for many months.

You aren't making any sense.

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

You're not even in the beta are you lol.  Crafting is a placeholder NPC because the system is not even close to being finished and everyone who's bothered to read the forums or the patch notes (not protected by NDA) can tell you that.  Full Loot is broken (still also in patch notes).  Magic is in as a placeholder as well (also clearly printed in the patch notes not protected by NDA).  And none of the other features are in or working like the flagging system, the economy, housing, mounts, crafting mini games, combat abilities, second teir skills, etc....

And there are a grand total of 10 mobs in the game in extremely limited spawns because they can't get the massiveLOD system to work.

All of this is public knowledge and not protected by NDA.  Why are you trying to argue it?

 

None of those things are totally complete, but yes they are all in the game. You can craft, you can gather, you can do pvp, you can kill mobs. So what are you trying to argue? That the game isn't 100% complete as of right now? Of course it isn't. Its beta and this game won't be released for many months.

You aren't making any sense.

 

 

How did your claim that "Most of the core features are in" turn to this trolling dribble.  That's what isn't making sense.  You try to claim most of the core features are in the game, yet everyone who has bothered to read the official forums knows that 90% of the core features are not turned on, or covered by a placeholder.

Why do you people come to real MMO communities to spout your useless nonsense.  Nobody likes a fanboi.

You can't craft.  All you can do is bring parts to an NPC and select the item to make.  The features promised were a full on crafting mini game.  Hense crafting is not in.  You can PvP but all the systems promised to govern FFA PvP are not in so it's also just a placeholder.  And the gamespace availible is virtually empty because the massiveLOD system is broken.  So they can only populate the game with a limited number of mobs and NPCs or the clients will explode.

Please stop pretending you know anything about this project.  It's clear you are just making stuff up based on second hand info, or are a delusional fanboi (aka Mats tehdoosh) trying to trick people into looking at this vaporware.

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

How did your claim that "Most of the core features are in" turn to this trolling dribble.  That's what isn't making sense.  You try to claim most of the core features are in the game, yet everyone who has bothered to read the official forums knows that 90% of the core features are not turned on, or covered by a placeholder.

Why do you people come to real MMO communities to spout your useless nonsense.  Nobody likes a fanboi.

You can't craft.  All you can do is bring parts to an NPC and select the item to make.  The features promised were a full on crafting mini game.  Hense crafting is not in.  You can PvP but all the systems promised to govern FFA PvP are not in so it's also just a placeholder.  And the gamespace availible is virtually empty because the massiveLOD system is broken.  So they can only populate the game with a limited number of mobs and NPCs or the clients will explode.

Please stop pretending you know anything about this project.  It's clear you are just making stuff up based on second hand info, or are a delusional fanboi (aka Mats tehdoosh) trying to trick people into looking at this vaporware.

Like I said, the stuff is in , but it isn't complete. You don't seem to understand that the game is still in beta. You think its released or something.  You are just making yourself look foolish.

Even in its current state, I would rather play MO than WOW.

Originally posted by MMOGuru

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

You're not even in the beta are you lol.  Crafting is a placeholder NPC because the system is not even close to being finished and everyone who's bothered to read the forums or the patch notes (not protected by NDA) can tell you that.  Full Loot is broken (still also in patch notes).  Magic is in as a placeholder as well (also clearly printed in the patch notes not protected by NDA).  And none of the other features are in or working like the flagging system, the economy, housing, mounts, crafting mini games, combat abilities, second teir skills, etc....

And there are a grand total of 10 mobs in the game in extremely limited spawns because they can't get the massiveLOD system to work.

All of this is public knowledge and not protected by NDA.  Why are you trying to argue it?

 

None of those things are totally complete, but yes they are all in the game. You can craft, you can gather, you can do pvp, you can kill mobs. So what are you trying to argue? That the game isn't 100% complete as of right now? Of course it isn't. Its beta and this game won't be released for many months.

You aren't making any sense.

 

 

 

How did your claim that "Most of the core features are in" turn to this trolling dribble.  That's what isn't making sense.  You try to claim most of the core features are in the game, yet everyone who has bothered to read the official forums knows that 90% of the core features are not turned on, or covered by a placeholder.

Why do you people come to real MMO communities to spout your useless nonsense.  Nobody likes a fanboi.

You can't craft.  All you can do is bring parts to an NPC and select the item to make.  The features promised were a full on crafting mini game.  Hense crafting is not in.  You can PvP but all the systems promised to govern FFA PvP are not in so it's also just a placeholder.  And the gamespace availible is virtually empty because the massiveLOD system is broken.  So they can only populate the game with a limited number of mobs and NPCs or the clients will explode.

Please stop pretending you know anything about this project.  It's clear you are just making stuff up based on second hand info, or are a delusional fanboi (aka Mats tehdoosh) trying to trick people into looking at this vaporware.

"Why do you guys come to real MMO communities"?? 

Is there a group of fake mmo conspirators that you think are forming against you? lol

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Originally posted by MMOGuru
Nobody likes a fanboi.

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No one likes a troll either.

The game is a true beta. Not some marketing, free preview "beta".

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

How did your claim that "Most of the core features are in" turn to this trolling dribble.  That's what isn't making sense.  You try to claim most of the core features are in the game, yet everyone who has bothered to read the official forums knows that 90% of the core features are not turned on, or covered by a placeholder.

Why do you people come to real MMO communities to spout your useless nonsense.  Nobody likes a fanboi.

You can't craft.  All you can do is bring parts to an NPC and select the item to make.  The features promised were a full on crafting mini game.  Hense crafting is not in.  You can PvP but all the systems promised to govern FFA PvP are not in so it's also just a placeholder.  And the gamespace availible is virtually empty because the massiveLOD system is broken.  So they can only populate the game with a limited number of mobs and NPCs or the clients will explode.

Please stop pretending you know anything about this project.  It's clear you are just making stuff up based on second hand info, or are a delusional fanboi (aka Mats tehdoosh) trying to trick people into looking at this vaporware.

 

Like I said, the stuff is in , but it isn't complete. You don't seem to understand that the game is still in beta. You think its released or something.  You are just making yourself look foolish.

Even in its current state, I would rather play MO than WOW.

 

The stuff isn't in. A place holder NPC cannot replace a crafting system. None of the selling features are in the game right now. Its basically a UT3 mod atm. Magic was added today and they got full loot to work (sorta), but there aren't any tool tips making the process cumbersome to say the least.

No one said the game is released, but based on whats given we can't recommend the game to anyone either.

Originally posted by redlance

 

"Why do you guys come to real MMO communities"?? 

Is there a group of fake mmo conspirators that you think are forming against you? lol

Lol, +rep haha

I am in the beta. The beta is allready really nice ... a very promising game ... more than that I can´t say.  

I buy this game just to support a Swedish gaming mmo company.

but from what i have seen from the old footage the graphics can be alot better with the unreal3 engine.

But then again it is beta and some of the more flashy objects is usally included later.

Originally posted by MMOGuru

Originally posted by ghoul31

Originally posted by MMOGuru

 

You're not even in the beta are you lol.  Crafting is a placeholder NPC because the system is not even close to being finished and everyone who's bothered to read the forums or the patch notes (not protected by NDA) can tell you that.  Full Loot is broken (still also in patch notes).  Magic is in as a placeholder as well (also clearly printed in the patch notes not protected by NDA).  And none of the other features are in or working like the flagging system, the economy, housing, mounts, crafting mini games, combat abilities, second teir skills, etc....

And there are a grand total of 10 mobs in the game in extremely limited spawns because they can't get the massiveLOD system to work.

All of this is public knowledge and not protected by NDA.  Why are you trying to argue it?

 

None of those things are totally complete, but yes they are all in the game. You can craft, you can gather, you can do pvp, you can kill mobs. So what are you trying to argue? That the game isn't 100% complete as of right now? Of course it isn't. Its beta and this game won't be released for many months.

You aren't making any sense.

 

 

 

How did your claim that "Most of the core features are in" turn to this trolling dribble.  That's what isn't making sense.  You try to claim most of the core features are in the game, yet everyone who has bothered to read the official forums knows that 90% of the core features are not turned on, or covered by a placeholder.

Why do you people come to real MMO communities to spout your useless nonsense.  Nobody likes a fanboi.

You can't craft.  All you can do is bring parts to an NPC and select the item to make.  The features promised were a full on crafting mini game.  Hense crafting is not in.  You can PvP but all the systems promised to govern FFA PvP are not in so it's also just a placeholder.  And the gamespace availible is virtually empty because the massiveLOD system is broken.  So they can only populate the game with a limited number of mobs and NPCs or the clients will explode.

Please stop pretending you know anything about this project.  It's clear you are just making stuff up based on second hand info, or are a delusional fanboi (aka Mats tehdoosh) trying to trick people into looking at this vaporware.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEhDZN0RFjw&feature=related

Please look up what a beta really is next time.

U3 engine is capable of some amazing things.  Though, no MMO can use all of the features because.. well, it's a MMO.  There's a big difference between developing a single player game and a multiplayer game with thousands of players in the same game world.  Things have to be sacrificed. 

I'd also like to reveal, if any of you aren't aware.  Only low textures are available in beta.  Not to mention, AA, AF, bloom effects and all of those things are not in the game.  The game already looks very nice for a MMO.  And unfortunately I will have to upgrade if I want to max out the graphics. 

Originally posted by Kyleran

It's the game play that makes upgrading worth doing.

So very true.

Although the graphics don't hurt.

just the graphics

from what i've seen the skies have got to be the most realistic of any game out there right now - water ain't bad either

but the rocks, stones and mountainous landscapes look horrible to me - - - like badly colored cellophane way overstretched on wire frames - hopefully this is the result of lower resolution in beta

Originally posted by gatheris

just the graphics

from what i've seen the skies have got to be the most realistic of any game out there right now - water ain't bad either

but the rocks, stones and mountainous landscapes look horrible to me - - - like badly colored cellophane way overstretched on wire frames - hopefully this is the result of lower resolution in beta

 

I agree, thats one of the best looking skies I've ever seen in a game and it really sets the mood for the game.

Originally posted by gatheris

just the graphics

from what i've seen the skies have got to be the most realistic of any game out there right now - water ain't bad either

but the rocks, stones and mountainous landscapes look horrible to me - - - like badly colored cellophane way overstretched on wire frames - hopefully this is the result of lower resolution in beta

 

Huh?

The mountains are the most realistic I've ever seen in any game.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by gatheris

just the graphics

from what i've seen the skies have got to be the most realistic of any game out there right now - water ain't bad either

but the rocks, stones and mountainous landscapes look horrible to me - - - like badly colored cellophane way overstretched on wire frames - hopefully this is the result of lower resolution in beta

 

If your referring to landscape in the distance I think it has to do with low clouds.   If your referring to close ups I dunno.   I never really watched for close ups.   I just know that the textures " pop " too close on those sand wall houses.  It feels like the character is nearsighted.   

Originally posted by Fariic

Originally posted by gatheris

just the graphics

from what i've seen the skies have got to be the most realistic of any game out there right now - water ain't bad either

but the rocks, stones and mountainous landscapes look horrible to me - - - like badly colored cellophane way overstretched on wire frames - hopefully this is the result of lower resolution in beta

 

 

Huh?

The mountains are the most realistic I've ever seen in any game.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

i think what is being referred to here is not the mountains at a distance which are just fine but when you are actually climbing around on the "landscape"

the skin or textures or whatever of the rocky ground/cliff faces etc do looked stretched - really stretched

"Visually MO doesn't even compare to Vanguard."

Lol that is all i had to read to know this guy speaks through his botty.
 

Getting a new computer? I remember that I considered installing Vista shortly before AOC was released, so I can play it in DX10. Get it? AOC, release, DX10, Vista? Ha ha ha ha... ha....  T_T

In other words:
The recent MMORPG releases were so disappointing for me, I won't be doing anything for a game that ain't released. :P Which is not to say that good graphics in MO are bad news. :)