Originally posted by Zartanyen

No I do not mind grinding mob's as you put it in EQ1 thats basickly all you did.

But you where in a group from the beging or you waited to be called on a list to get into the group, then you had raids.

I did not have to quest grind I could level just bye grinding with friends or with a group of people I did not solo and quest grind soloing till X level to get into groups or to PVP.

To the the dumbass WAR comment about just doing PVP. You are a moron. if you did PVE in WAR and you played the game wrong, with sc's orvr and ganking on dark craig who did PVE other then to farm a item here or their, had full ani set bye 19 on one chacter with out one peice being bought you are probaly one of those people who I see account for sale level 40 RR 15 your a joke I would reactivate my war account just to 1V1 you and show you the difrence between having a RR rank with gear and you having your PVE gear. 
 

I am basickly saying I do not want a solo Questgrinder with shity rewards.

You were only level 13, barely had enough skills to do anything.  Group area starts at lvl 16 which offer better drops (farming bosses).  No idea what is your problem???  Also, you can upgrade your "Shitty Rewards" by using enchantment stone, do you really know how to play Aion?  On Chinese server, I saw lot of people with +10 on their gears.

Or you can craft your own gears, you know this is not Warhammer.  Aion does have armor and weapon crafting in the game.

Move along nothing new here..Its the same ol bull shit, the game was not made for me attitude..If players just read what the game has for detailed/features they would not be posting the same old song..Education and Reading is what some of these players need. And you won't be reading this for a head line>> Bored. Dissapointed. and Burned out by level 13 C.C. save me TY

/walks in, looks around

Yep this ones a faliure too....Oh well back to WoW.

OP if you want a game without grind and pvp from the beginning might I suggest Guild Wars....

Originally posted by todeswulf

/walks in, looks around

Yep this ones a faliure too....Oh well back to WoW.

Troll Much ?  

Originally posted by Threetowns

Originally posted by todeswulf

/walks in, looks around

Yep this ones a faliure too....Oh well back to WoW.

Troll Much ?  

 

Ive have quit wow 3 times. Every time i came back it was because i thought new content would keep me interested. Turns out WoWs new content is no challenge so I find my self quitting and this time making no plans on returning.  Aion looks like it has good ideas with pvp that will keep me interested much longer. 

I have to agree with the OP - going from hub to hub, doing essentially the same quest over and over again, picking up the same stramlined gear that everyone else has.

AoC and WAR were better than this and look how well they did.

Originally posted by Nihilist

I have to agree with the OP - going from hub to hub, doing essentially the same quest over and over again, picking up the same stramlined gear that everyone else has.

 

AoC and WAR were better than this and look how well they did.

 

 

WAR was horrendous I couldnt stand it at all

Originally posted by Nihilist

 

AoC and WAR were better than this and look how well they did.

 

 

Obvious troll is obvious

Originally posted by Nihilist

I have to agree with the OP - going from hub to hub, doing essentially the same quest over and over again, picking up the same stramlined gear that everyone else has.

 

AoC and WAR were better than this and look how well they did.

 

 

Oddly what you described... was WAR....

*gasp*

Aion is pretty chill, visually, I even liked some of the fights I've been in while rifting (currently level 24 in OB);  Though the leveling is down right freaking boring in my opinion.  While it's nice that it's a carbon copy of WoW's questing system to keep a familiar feel for a lot of people making a switch to it or trying it out I find myself wanting to fall asleep doing it.

The last time I've enjoyed leveling was in Warhammer, from level 1 to 40 I did nothing but PvP and I was in heaven.  Although the game was a flop and it wasn't that great a new option to level was a breath of fresh air.  Aion in my opinion just feels like going back to a system I did a few times 4 and half years ago, actually I'll be blunt about it.  It is going back to a leveling system I did 4 and half years ago.

I'm hanging in there though, slamming my face into the keyboard getting to the next phase of the game (the abyss) where apparently the game I've sunk about 20 hours into magically becomes good, which I agree because the PvP fights I've been in have been mad fun.

Originally posted by Zartanyen

No I do not mind grinding mob's as you put it in EQ1 thats basickly all you did.

But you where in a group from the beging or you waited to be called on a list to get into the group, then you had raids.

I did not have to quest grind I could level just bye grinding with friends or with a group of people I did not solo and quest grind soloing till X level to get into groups or to PVP.

To the the dumbass WAR comment about just doing PVP. You are a moron. if you did PVE in WAR and you played the game wrong, with sc's orvr and ganking on dark craig who did PVE other then to farm a item here or their, had full ani set bye 19 on one chacter with out one peice being bought you are probaly one of those people who I see account for sale level 40 RR 15 your a joke I would reactivate my war account just to 1V1 you and show you the difrence between having a RR rank with gear and you having your PVE gear. 
 

I am basickly saying I do not want a solo Questgrinder with shity rewards.

Based on how badly you spell.. you're an idiot.  Spellcheck is your friend.
 

Originally posted by Greater_Force

 Wall of Text crits you for 54985429 damage...

I think this is actually a growing sentiment among online gamers. They don't want to feel like they are questing/grinding for the sole purpose of leveling up. They want to have an adventure from the second they log into the game for the first time. IMHO games like SWTOR are trying to address this. I don't think they are doing it completely right but they are at least attempting to tie-in questing with a lengthy story line. Hopefully this will be the start of a new MMO revolution that gets us away from the grindfest, cookie -cutter craze.

And yet he actively avoids any attempt at storytelling the developers may attempt to put in.

What it sounds like is he wants is a console game where you log in with a pre-made character and just start killing.

So...then...you want to play...an FPS?

Originally posted by Greater_Force

 Wall of Text crits you for 54985429 damage...

I think this is actually a growing sentiment among online gamers. They don't want to feel like they are questing/grinding for the sole purpose of leveling up. They want to have an adventure from the second they log into the game for the first time. IMHO games like SWTOR are trying to address this. I don't think they are doing it completely right but they are at least attempting to tie-in questing with a lengthy story line. Hopefully this will be the start of a new MMO revolution that gets us away from the grindfest, cookie -cutter craze.

No, no. I think you misread. He doesn't want to do ANY quests or solo play. He wants ALL PvP, all the time.

I must say I did not like the game but I do like this company for the second time did not have to go to the C.C. company just told NCsoft I did not like this and that and insta refund to the C.C. just have to wait the usual 2 to 4 days to have the money back on the card now to find a game I will enjoy.

thank you for the guild wars tip just downloaded it.

Originally posted by Zartanyen

I got this game because WAR is on death's door and every one was comming over here.

I played in CB and got a refund their, ( should always go with first impresions.) but siad hey their where alot of things I liked lets try this again.

To the people who say this is a grind, I will say I do not see it, compared to other mmo's I have played where you must grind out  X number of quests and mob's for little to no xp Aion is not bad at all you get xp for everything, crafting and farming resorces to boot. 

You could probaly do all the quests alone and get to in a fairly quick amount of time just soloing.

This is the problem I have had I do not and never did like doing quests in any mmo for the most part I just skiped them all unless I had to do them for my class, I do not get mmo's to do quests I do not even read the garbage they say I just go here retrive this take it here or go here and kill X number of this mob rinse wash and repeat from level 1 to max level boreing, snooze fest if I want to do this I will play my PS3 or X-box 360 I play to have fun and do things with other people.

EQ1, WAR, got this right you grouped and could PVP from level1 not you must PVE your way to the top ( or at least to level 20) to finaly PVP. You can easly solo play this game( they went right to the WOW cutter for this) and not need anyone but your self depending on your class(OP cleric for the solo win)  to get to level 20 as I have seen and from what I have read and heard you can get to 50 on quests alone.

PVE teaches you nothing about PVP soloing to 20 then jumping into PVPVE or what ever the hell they want to call it ( great add some PVE to PVP like I am not sick of your PVE allready that I just want to vomit.) now you get to learn to PVP at 20 a waste of 20 levels grinding away at PVE. At least in WAR you laerned group play in PVP from level 1 you learned ranges, tactic's etc. etc. not here.

Now here is a real  treat what do I get for this forced PVE grind? nothig but leveling the itmes are a joke in this game you get 1 set of green or common armor same with weapons changing about every three levels, man can I realy have the choice between 2 difrent sets a whole two? ( ya like you can not tell this is a Asian game just from that) and only from 3 peices of armor you do not start to get other peices till you get to higher levels you get boots,legs,torso. get a hat and gloves given to you on a quest near level 8 or so depending on when you do it and the rest not till mid teens. Is their another P2P mmo with gear this shity, lack of options for gear, and  level requirments to just get gear? and this is when I am forced to PVE on top of it all. even in WOW or WAR you got a bunch of difrent  options when it came to gear and every varity of rareity not just common or green.

Looks like I will just have to wait for one of the many other mmo's comming out, is this game like all the other F2p Asian grinders that have come out? I would not know I do not play F2P garbage but it  does not feel like any western made P2P mmo thats for sure.(seeing as NCsoft is a Asian company with a U.S. branch should I have expected anything less?)

Am I saying this game is garbage? no just not for me I am sure that their are many who love the above mentioned content and it will be a plus in their eyes but these are also the people you will not see in a darkfall or mortal online (if these games where done right) they are the post WOW mmo players who love their PVE,soloing, and getting to end game in less then a week.

Looks like my C.C. company has to save me again should have know, should have known..... 

Thank you for a resonable review from an obviously seasoned player. I'm sure we'll see ya in a game somewhere sometime.
 

If OP cancel's his RL account, is there a downside?

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by teco221

So, he doesn't want to do quests or grind on mobs... He just want to "PvP" to level.  I guess he is one of the lousy players that I met in Warhammer then.  Thank God he is not playing.

 

Well he can play WOW and now level through PvP too.

And be glad he didn't witness the "auto-follow' target function in PvP of YAwn... :))). That even beats the autofacing of War as a total game breaker with ease :)))

 

 

 

 

The wow pvp leveling is one of the few changes in warcraft i actually aprove of but its not enough to balance against all the negatives . I hope being able to level with pvp in wow does nt lead to a dead pve landscape midgame though as happened in warhammer .

Originally posted by h8erberry

Originally posted by Superman0X

Is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of people are using credit card chargebacks as a form of 'free trial' for new games?

 

Nope its not just you. Neither is putting a list of included features on the box that are not ready when the game launches.

Maybe one day software will work as advertised and charge backs won't be necessary.

riight...