All we've been able to play/see so far for the U.S. release is up to lvl 30. I know if all you saw of WoW was up to lvl 30 you would have a completly different view of it. Raiding and end game pvp are going to play a huge role in this game. A role none of us have had the opportunity to play. So STFU about your good/bad reviews of this game. In the end there worthless.

Its getting bashed so hard because its popular and in beta, it willg et hit even harder on go live untill somthing else draws the trolls attention such is the way of MMO boards.

I personaly like the game, best I have seen in a long time and thats saying somthing because there have been some very intresting titles in the past 3 or so years but this one might (not saying it will) but might be as good as DAoC even if not its worthy of the cost of the CE and year or 2 of my life.

I'm not bashing this game, I would just like to say it's nothiing new.  It feels like the same ol MMO that as been coming out for the last couple of years.  It's hard not to compare any new MMO to WoW because of how successful it was...but to me, this game is just a prettier verson of WoW.  I will probably play Aion until something better comes out...actually done.  Skip Aion and play Champions Online, now that's a fun game :)

 People just hate new things?

I personally don't but a guess quite a lot of people do. Either that or the conspiracy theory that Blizzard is paying people to come on forums like this and flame new games that are a threat. o.0

I also really like Aion and plan to buy and play the game until SW:TOR comes out. It's the most polished MMO to be released in a long time.

Forget 30 levels, people bash Aion after playing 5 levels, its just what they seem to enjoy doing.

Even though they've not come close to the PVP portion of the game, many posters see fit to pass judgement on the entire game and say, "its just like WOW"

Yes, of course in many ways it is, and certainly the early levels of PVE don't bring us anything new.  Its in the Abyss and Rift wars where this game will either shine or suck, and until those get going full bore and people get a chance to really experience it, I don't  think you can really judge this game yet.

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

 

Even if you love PvP, you're in the wrong game.

Originally posted by Sp00sh

I'm not bashing this game, I would just like to say it's nothiing new.  It feels like the same ol MMO that as been coming out for the last couple of years.  It's hard not to compare any new MMO to WoW because of how successful it was...but to me, this game is just a prettier verson of WoW.  I will probably play Aion until something better comes out...actually done.  Skip Aion and play Champions Online, now that's a fun game :)

I can't say Aion is the BEST game in the market but 1 thing I am pretty sure is CO is NOT that great.  I will go back to Warhammer before I even play CO.

Originally posted by Hepisodic

 

I personally don't but a guess quite a lot of people do. Either that or the conspiracy theory that Blizzard is paying people to come on forums like this and flame new games that are a threat. o.0

 

Think about that. Even if someone comes here to trash Aion for WoW's sake, there is no telling if it will send anyone to WoW.

It's far more likely that Aion has people posting here to encourage people to play their game.

The game sounds fun enough, but I had to give it a crapy score for my inability to actually stay in game. Actually playing is just fine, but I can't support a game that I cannot play for more than 5 mins at a time. I would love to try the game without Gameguard.

 I got a friend who loves playing WOW he bashed aion by barely even knowing what it was he even CLAIMED he played it.I can tell he lied so i guess what the person a few posts above said people hate new things.Or even hate things for irrelevant things that shouldn't matter when your playing.I enjoyed playing because of the polish my computer is extremely weak especially the horrible graphics card but it runs fairly well.

It's simple: MMORPG.com, "it's where all the haters/trolls are"

its really just this site. Never base how good a game is through these forums. Either check the game out or go to g4 for a valid review of a game.

Originally posted by Sp00sh

I'm not bashing this game, I would just like to say it's nothiing new.  It feels like the same ol MMO that as been coming out for the last couple of years.  It's hard not to compare any new MMO to WoW because of how successful it was...but to me, this game is just a prettier verson of WoW.  I will probably play Aion until something better comes out...actually done.  Skip Aion and play Champions Online, now that's a fun game :)

Played CoH and it's not my cup of tea. All i see is CO as a CoH wannabe.

People bash it because it's the new kid  in town, maybe because of GameGuard, maybe because of the crashing, or not having played till 30 are just the few to name reasons.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Forget 30 levels, people bash Aion after playing 5 levels, its just what they seem to enjoy doing.

Even though they've not come close to the PVP portion of the game, many posters see fit to pass judgement on the entire game and say, "its just like WOW"

Yes, of course in many ways it is, and certainly the early levels of PVE don't bring us anything new.  Its in the Abyss and Rift wars where this game will either shine or suck, and until those get going full bore and people get a chance to really experience it, I don't  think you can really judge this game yet.

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

 

  Well, the thing is that this game has a lot of players expecting something they had encountered in release WoW, only with shinier graphics and World PvP with incentive; the problem is that it doesn't quite fit the bill in terms of content and the lack of character customization along with linear progression leaves a bitter taste in some peoples' mouths.

  What will keep people playing Aion, however, is that it is very well polished, which is something neither AoC, nor WAR could boast about. Even if they are disappointed, they will keep playing, because it is their hobby and this is the best new item on the market at the moment.

  The lack of innovation and ridiculous similarities to the games we've all played before simply means Aion is open to bashing;  when WoW came out it was bashed more than any other game on these forums: People came out of the woodwork to insult players and disparage WoW's copycat MMORPG. Aion is even less innovative than WoW was in it's time, so why expect anything else? 

Originally posted by Mizzoufan

It's simple: MMORPG.com, "it's where all the haters/trolls are"

I think you mean: Blizzard Forums, "it's where all the haters/trolls are"

In the 3 years on those forums I've seen enough shit to scar people. Everyone makes like some 50 trolls b/c they don't have the balls to post on their main accounts. 

So yeah... as for trolls/haters. Blizz forums all the way. 

Originally posted by Mizzoufan

It's simple: MMORPG.com, "it's where all the haters/trolls are"

That is a great quote, but honestly MMORPG.com can moderate this stuff down more if they chose to.  If this was a pay site, you'd see zero trolls and alot less stupid traffic.

Originally posted by renshu1287

All we've been able to play/see so far for the U.S. release is up to lvl 30. I know if all you saw of WoW was up to lvl 30 you would have a completly different view of it. Raiding and end game pvp are going to play a huge role in this game. A role none of us have had the opportunity to play. So STFU about your good/bad reviews of this game. In the end there worthless.

Then surely so is your opinion also of this game? and what you have to say about how it might be..

Strange comment to make while making a comment about others comments, wait, did i comment?

Considering the polish that Aion will inevitably launch with, it just shows you that some people will always find stuff to complain about, it's very sad sometimes.

They don't take notice of the things done right and take them for granted (remember some countless other recent MMOs launches guys!), they rummage through every bit of information to try and find something to complain about. And what do they come up with? It's not revolutionary, adopts the same quest system as other games (which is already widely known) and... the art style is too eastern for their liking (duh?).

The latency issue for some NA players in OB is a worthy one idd, however it is kind of expected and doesn't at ALL deserve all the commotion.

Considering GameGuard however, it should die, no doubt about that!

I don't get why people say you need to play to end-game before you judge a game.

Why waste my time in an uninteresting carbon-copy world to see if the endgame is any good, which I highly doubt it is in Aion since its basically zerg pvp for gear grind.

Originally posted by Nihilist

I don't get why people say you need to play to end-game before you judge a game.

 

Why waste my time in an uninteresting carbon-copy world to see if the endgame is any good, which I highly doubt it is in Aion since its basically zerg pvp for gear grind.

 

First highlight is your personal opinion (opinion =/= truth, a lot of people have problems understanding that!).

Second highlight is wrong on so many counts it's laughable. Disregarding this korean ranger who soloed his way to glory, there are plenty of instances some with very interesting and engaging concepts that aren't zergs, in which you can get gear of the highest quality. Also some of the best gear in the game is craftable as well. All games are grinds, it's variety that counts and there are enough stuff to do IMO without getting bored in Aion.

I do however partly agree with your first sentence. People can only judge the things they experienced in a game, and combat mechanics, art style, questing system etc. fall into that category. PvP, customization, class balance, sieges etc. do not.

Originally posted by peteski123

Originally posted by renshu1287

All we've been able to play/see so far for the U.S. release is up to lvl 30. I know if all you saw of WoW was up to lvl 30 you would have a completly different view of it. Raiding and end game pvp are going to play a huge role in this game. A role none of us have had the opportunity to play. So STFU about your good/bad reviews of this game. In the end there worthless.

 

Then surely so is your opinion also of this game? and what you have to say about how it might be..

Strange comment to make while making a comment about others comments, wait, did i comment?

I unlike so many others did not try to share/force my opinion on others. I honestly feel that we haven't been able to see enough of the game be it bad or good to make an informed decision on the ultimate quality of this game. And for the people that make it their life's mission to try and bash this game in attempt to get just one if not more people to not try this game is the great bastardization of what these forums have turned into. You can't say this game sucks or is great based of the appetizer we were given so far. But i do find it enjoyable to read the reviews that try.

And who ever was talking about this game being a carbon copy etc. What game out there (that is massively popular) isn't like other games? In addition, most games are usually the same thing as every other game for the first 30,40,50 or w/e it may be in lvls. What it comes down to is polish, customer support, combat mechanics, fine tuning of the market standards and the few twists and innovations not so much inventions (which some people can't tell the differnce on) .

People are capable of bashing the game because they have nothing else to do. Some people play a game and say hmm its beta I dont like it... so im not going to play it as they didnt pay anything for it, no harm, no foul... others play for free and take it as their divine right to persuade others to not play also because they get this feeling of being insulted as it wasn't up to their expectations. They couldn't feel the same joy as Review A or B that gave it rave reviews. They feel tarnished and emotionally hurt by this so like a stalker who wont leave his ex alone, they start the name calling and bashing in hopes that someone else cares. Then they find out everyone else doesn't care because they are getting them some while he's psychoticly whining and complaining. People say move on there are other fish in the sea... but not this guy... he's going to make sure everyone knows how he feels. Crying... Snot running down his nose... jerking off in the shower weeping... listening to love songs for the memories...

same ol s*** just a different game.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Kyleran

Forget 30 levels, people bash Aion after playing 5 levels, its just what they seem to enjoy doing.

Even though they've not come close to the PVP portion of the game, many posters see fit to pass judgement on the entire game and say, "its just like WOW"

Yes, of course in many ways it is, and certainly the early levels of PVE don't bring us anything new.  Its in the Abyss and Rift wars where this game will either shine or suck, and until those get going full bore and people get a chance to really experience it, I don't  think you can really judge this game yet.

Unless of course you hate PVP, which in that case you are in the wrong game.

 

 

  Well, the thing is that this game has a lot of players expecting something they had encountered in release WoW, only with shinier graphics and World PvP with incentive; the problem is that it doesn't quite fit the bill in terms of content and the lack of character customization along with linear progression leaves a bitter taste in some peoples' mouths.

  What will keep people playing Aion, however, is that it is very well polished, which is something neither AoC, nor WAR could boast about. Even if they are disappointed, they will keep playing, because it is their hobby and this is the best new item on the market at the moment.

  The lack of innovation and ridiculous similarities to the games we've all played before simply means Aion is open to bashing;  when WoW came out it was bashed more than any other game on these forums: People came out of the woodwork to insult players and disparage WoW's copycat MMORPG. Aion is even less innovative than WoW was in it's time, so why expect anything else? 

 

 

Lack of character customization, you must be kidding. Aion has an amazing creator creation feature and on top of that you can dye your armor..put it this way, wow has five faces to pick from and Aion has millions. wow has 5 hair styles and Aion has 48, Now please tell me which game sufferes from lack of customization.

Aion's customization is more then enough in my opinion I don't want CoX/Co type of customization in a real mmorpg it would make me waste too much time trying to create my "perfect" character which eventually would make me sick and probably not play the game.

Originally posted by ronan32

Lack of character customization, you must be kidding. Aion has an amazing creator creation feature and on top of that you can dye your armor..put it this way, wow has five faces to pick from and Aion has millions. wow has 5 hair styles and Aion has 48, Now please tell me which game sufferes from lack of customization.

I think WoW relies on gear matching as its own "character customization" -- there in lies why you can't paint your gear in WoW.  I kinda like it.  You know what people are wearing because of its style, color, etc.  You might not always match, but it gives you a goal.  I remember playing for the first time and seeing the level 60's in their uber cool matching gear, Then getting to 80 myself and having almost full T 7.5... it seems really dumb, but it was appealing.. even addicting.  Dying your armor can be a positive aspect.. or negative -- depending on the player.

As for Aion's customizable character faces and bodies.  It's all gravy, however how often do you *really* see your toon's face?  And what's with the mini-me's running around with their legs moving a thousand steps per minute... or the giant cleric I saw the other day whose name was "rubberman" and litterally looked like gumby all stretched out.  Comical, but.. kind of annoying.  My guess is that in the end game creating a smaller toon would leverage some advantage by making you tougher for the opponent to see / click on.

Also, if Aion was really paying attention to character detail, when you make a fat character he shouldn't move like the same class "athletic" character.  He should be a lumbering fat man that chuckles and rubs his tummy.  Think EVE Online -- Ambulation.