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General Discussion  » Are we really giving $ to this kind of incompetence 2 weeks from live?

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  Baseline

Novice Member

Joined: 9/23/04
Posts: 451

 
9/07/09 11:43:50 AM#1

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

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Wake me up when something innovative comes out.

  Wintersbite

Novice Member

Joined: 1/18/07
Posts: 146

9/07/09 11:46:27 AM#2

 Care to elaborate to those of us that don't/won't ever play Aion what the problem is? 

 

Not having a dig, I actually want to know what's going wrong.

  FunkyLasagne

Novice Member

Joined: 6/25/06
Posts: 342

9/07/09 11:46:48 AM#3

[deleted for not being able to tell the difference between NCSoft and Funcom]

  Machieltje

Novice Member

Joined: 11/21/05
Posts: 130

9/07/09 11:47:32 AM#4

Don't let the door hit you on your way out...

 

(If you go on a rant about how things are bad at least have the decency to elaborate: what's so bad and why...)

  metalhead980

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 2699

9/07/09 11:47:33 AM#5

Holy crap!

You're an angry dude.

Care to elaborate a bit as to why you hate Aion so much.

People will just report you for trolling if you don't explain yourself.

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Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  teco221

Novice Member

Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 367

9/07/09 11:47:43 AM#6

I have been playing on Chinese server for 3 months, the game seem fine to me.  Not sure what's your complaints.

  C0MA

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/07
Posts: 540

9/07/09 11:50:58 AM#7
Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.


 

Bye, I played AoC for 9 months had a lot of fun sorry you didn't =( Yg.com had me rated the second best ranger in the world before I quit. Not sure as you didn't specify what happend that made you cancel your pre-order or w/e but that sucks, it happens, yup theres lag rut roh. WoW was unplayable at launch due to the #'s logging in ... Aions the same atm.

"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"

  taurak

Novice Member

Joined: 10/01/04
Posts: 64

9/07/09 11:53:06 AM#8

Aion is having some server issues...

God forbid the servers arent perfect for an open beta that you should be happy to get a chance to play in.

Did you ever try the WoW open beta? It was much much worse. Hell I remember after WoW released soem servers were down for a full week while we were paying for the game. Some servers in WoW still crash constantly. Remember the release of Ulduar when nobody could zone in even?

These problems are not unique to Aion. Dont even sit there and try to say things like that.

Game guard and programs like that DO cause issues sometimes when they get updated. The game guard Aion uses was updated right before beta, and they need to fix the issues with it. I know they are working on a fix, and that is really all they can do.

Maybe if you are such an amazing person you can snap your fingers and fix the network problem...

  Aegrus

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/19/09
Posts: 23

9/07/09 11:53:15 AM#9

Well, if you are expecting something radically new you might be dissapointed.

Personally though, i've been playing since the beginning of the beta (pre-order) and am enjoying it alot.

 

  tuzalov

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/11/07
Posts: 173

"Our birth is nothing but our death begun."

9/07/09 11:55:42 AM#10

I think he refers to the fact that it went up 38 mins late,or possibly the rubberbanding issues from having 50K + players all try to login at once,or it could be the 10 min server downtime to address server stability,or maybe he is complaining about the network servers "which NC does not own" that are imploding from massive congestion on route to the NC servers.

 

People make me laugh,OB was for 1.5 implementation if you thought for a min that it was going to be some smooth playing happy fun time,I feel sorry for ya.

  Draccan

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/12/07
Posts: 1067

sandbox is king

9/07/09 11:58:05 AM#11
Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

 

Does that mean you will change your avatar to

NoThanks Soft?

 

lol

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  JudgeRoyBean

Novice Member

Joined: 6/26/09
Posts: 45

9/07/09 12:00:58 PM#12
Originally posted by taurak

Aion is having some server issues...

God forbid the servers arent perfect for an open beta that you should be happy to get a chance to play in.

Did you ever try the WoW open beta? It was much much worse. Hell I remember after WoW released soem servers were down for a full week while we were paying for the game. Some servers in WoW still crash constantly. Remember the release of Ulduar when nobody could zone in even?

These problems are not unique to Aion. Dont even sit there and try to say things like that.

Game guard and programs like that DO cause issues sometimes when they get updated. The game guard Aion uses was updated right before beta, and they need to fix the issues with it. I know they are working on a fix, and that is really all they can do.

Maybe if you are such an amazing person you can snap your fingers and fix the network problem...


 

I also remember WOW wasn't released for almost a year before their open beta. Pull your head out of your ass. There is no way that this game (for almost a year in operation) should be stumbling out of the gate 2 weeks before release. This is a major punch in the gut for NCsoft. I just logged out of Aion, and it is currently unplayable. Total lagfest.  NCsoft is acting like they have never opened a MMO server before. And for this game to be operating this long, in this kind of shape is unexcuseable.

You can apologize for NCsoft all you want, but the fact is, NCsoft really SHAT the bed on this one.

  Skooma2

Advanced Member

Joined: 3/05/08
Posts: 386

9/07/09 12:02:17 PM#13
Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

Don't sugar coat it, man.  Tell us what you really think!  Also, I note that your avatar is a FailCom logo; and, here you bash NCSoft.  Are there any developers that you do like?
 

I use skooma so that I can work harder and longer and make more money so I can buy more skooma. I don't see a problem.

  MrPhire

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/27/09
Posts: 214

9/07/09 12:05:38 PM#14
Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

 

1) Your acting like half of the ignorant kids in region chat. You obviously don't understand OB is not a marketing term. It is a TEST ON THE SERVERS. If they could implicate realtime connections from over 50k+ players at once they would do it without us. Since they cannot they use us. I would rather they pissoff people who care more about trying to beat a game than help fix the game.

2) Your pissed at a company because they don't bend to your will? Well then why the fuck do you even troll and or play MMOs. You obviously had some really big hopes, and because you couldn't be happy with a Open Beta that you think is a *Trial* your gunna rant and rave? Especially on a forum NCsoft probably cares less about. If you really want results or answers go to the beta forums or aionsource. Obviously your just pissed with your own ignorance.

3) Good riddance. The less assholes he make it post launch the better.

Playing: Guild Wars and Exteel
Loved: WoW, Guild Wars, FFXI, and Lineage 2
Liked: Exteel, WAR, and Lineage 1
Hated:City of Heroes, City of Villians, Matrix Online, Runescape, and D&D Online.
Waiting For: Aion, Guild Wars 2, FFXIV, and SW:TOR

  Jimmydean

Advanced Member

Joined: 9/21/04
Posts: 556

9/07/09 12:06:38 PM#15

The issues Aion is having atm are SERVER BASED. The servers are NEW SERVERS for the Western players. They have never had a severe load on them before. THIS IS WHY COMPANIES DO OPEN BETA / STRESS TESTS. So that their servers are ready FOR LAUNCH.

Oh my god people. Are you all really that retarded? You act like you know everything about servers and that this should be flawless becuase it's an "open beta". Why don't you go post your results on the BETA FORUM so that they can fix these issues rather than you just bitching about them?

People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At walls.

  MrPhire

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/27/09
Posts: 214

9/07/09 12:07:56 PM#16
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean
Originally posted by taurak

Aion is having some server issues...

God forbid the servers arent perfect for an open beta that you should be happy to get a chance to play in.

Did you ever try the WoW open beta? It was much much worse. Hell I remember after WoW released soem servers were down for a full week while we were paying for the game. Some servers in WoW still crash constantly. Remember the release of Ulduar when nobody could zone in even?

These problems are not unique to Aion. Dont even sit there and try to say things like that.

Game guard and programs like that DO cause issues sometimes when they get updated. The game guard Aion uses was updated right before beta, and they need to fix the issues with it. I know they are working on a fix, and that is really all they can do.

Maybe if you are such an amazing person you can snap your fingers and fix the network problem...


 

I also remember WOW wasn't released for almost a year before their open beta. Pull your head out of your ass. There is no way that this game (for almost a year in operation) should be stumbling out of the gate 2 weeks before release. This is a major punch in the gut for NCsoft. I just logged out of Aion, and it is currently unplayable. Total lagfest.  NCsoft is acting like they have never opened a MMO server before. And for this game to be operating this long, in this kind of shape is unexcuseable.

You can apologize for NCsoft all you want, but the fact is, NCsoft really SHAT the bed on this one.

It was released for 8 months in CHINA. Not the networking company in america. CHINA! We don't connect to that server. And if we did you'd lag even worse. Ignorance is an option not a god given trait of humanity.

Playing: Guild Wars and Exteel
Loved: WoW, Guild Wars, FFXI, and Lineage 2
Liked: Exteel, WAR, and Lineage 1
Hated:City of Heroes, City of Villians, Matrix Online, Runescape, and D&D Online.
Waiting For: Aion, Guild Wars 2, FFXIV, and SW:TOR

  Marcus-

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/28/06
Posts: 776

9/07/09 12:08:25 PM#17

Doesn't something strike you as funny, when using the words server stability, and beta, in the same breath?

 

Maybe not.....

  C0MA

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/07
Posts: 540

9/07/09 12:11:44 PM#18
Originally posted by Marcus-

Doesn't something strike you as funny, when using the words server stability, and beta, in the same breath?

 

Maybe not.....


 

I have already determined you can't expect logic from these trolls or a majority of mmo gamers these days... but  I still try, guess i'm not a quitter. Good luck with your attempt!

"Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean"

  drbaltazar

Elite Member

Joined: 3/28/07
Posts: 7066

9/07/09 12:15:18 PM#19
Originally posted by Jimmydean

The issues Aion is having atm are SERVER BASED. The servers are NEW SERVERS for the Western players. They have never had a severe load on them before. THIS IS WHY COMPANIES DO OPEN BETA / STRESS TESTS. So that their servers are ready FOR LAUNCH.

Oh my god people. Are you all really that retarded? You act like you know everything about servers and that this should be flawless becuase it's an "open beta". Why don't you go post your results on the BETA FORUM so that they can fix these issues rather than you just bitching about them?

People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At walls.

lol i did post it!as lot of other 

response its not aion is working great

wow couldnt make level3 or whatever company skeamed to block games 

so ncsoft wont do better

to top it all player got recommended by ncsoft to deactivate their security ,that way aion would play smooth

come on a 5 year old kid wouldnt disable norton 

this isnt serious for them they ll sell their numbers and they ll be happy wether it works smoothly or not 

as ncsoft says 

AION WORKS

yep but a lot of gamer cant reach it or rubberband from ny to australia

and everybody having problem cant be wrong 

men theres so many post its insane lol

  jonassevan

Novice Member

Joined: 9/01/08
Posts: 20

9/07/09 12:15:22 PM#20

there's only One MMORPG .

there will be only one.

lets not buy/download any new MMORPG.

lets not even give them a chance .

i'm a 12yr fanbot troll.

i know everything about one game .

but nothing about life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Mithrandolir

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/28/05
Posts: 1040

Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft' might win, by fearing to attempt

9/07/09 12:16:52 PM#21

For those who care and don't know, NC hit some massive networking issues yesterday.

The first few hours of OB were smooth sailing for most, then there was a server reboot to fix an issue that carried over in patch 1.5 and after that reboot a ton of people began having massive connectivity/lag/rubberbanding issues.

If you hop on Aionsource and look at the tracert thread, you'll see where everyone is timing out in their hops.

Since I played 25+ hours of CB6 and the start of OB flawlessly, I know what the game holds for me, I know that buying it was a smart move, I know that this is not another WAR or AoC for me. The fact that they are having some networking issues, during open beta, at a new data center (cb servers were in Tx, OB and launch servers are on Easy Coast) is a minor inconvenience at most.

Anyone throwing a fit over this would have thrown it regardless.

 

 

  User Deleted
9/07/09 12:17:26 PM#22

Plenty of good & accurate reply in this thread.

OP you fail, like your Failcom avatar says...

/thread

  choujiofkono

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9/07/09 12:22:37 PM#23

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IMHO

You guys who are using the extra big text and the colored words are making my left eyeball hurt.  Can't you say what you mean without the extra special FX?  A big word here or a colored word there is fine if you want to make a point.  But, a full wall of poopy colored text or a jam it in the eye word-fest is kind of ridiculous

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  Pocahinha

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/14/09
Posts: 436

9/07/09 12:27:33 PM#24
Originally posted by Baseline

This open beta is nothing more than a display of NCSoft's incompetence.

These kinds of results in an "open beta" (bs marketing term for free preview when it's this close to live) that is not even truly open is utterly ridiculous. I'm canceling my pre-order.

Enjoy the inevitable mass-exodus cancellation woosh within the first month or two, a la AOC and Warhammer.

Quite sad. I pity those of you that have experienced other hyped-up marketing masterpieces such as AOC and Warhammer and still have the blindness to give another company another undeserved $60.

Good luck. I can think of a hundred better things to do with my money than give it to these modern-era art counterfeiters, because that's all they are, is a bunch of people taking rehashed unoriginal non-innovative crap, branding it as their own, and then not even having the decency to make an effort to assure that it all runs smoothly. All while asking us for money.

No thanks.

Play a real mmo??? Darkfall...or if u dont like full loot go Fallen Earth?? I mean Aion?? ROFL wtf? CO??? wtf?? to play wow clones play the best..wow itself...
 

  Morgaren

Novice Member

Joined: 3/04/09
Posts: 320

For me, the gates will open.

9/07/09 12:30:39 PM#25
Originally posted by Jimmydean

 

People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At walls.


 

Yeah I know,  me too.

The thing that gets me is everyone thinks because they are having lag problems that the ENTIRE world is having the exact same problems. Talked to one guy in game who said he didn't understand cause his "cpu ran other games well enough, like command and conquer and Black and white, Intergrated graphics should be good enough right?"

Sometimes its YOUR connection not theirs, Sometimes its YOUR ISP, or YOUR computer can't handle a game, (I'm not hating on people who don't have an awesome machine, I was there once too, just work hard, it'll happen for you one day)

Just case and point, I live on the TX coast (yes people your physical location can have something to do with your ping) and have a 3 Mb/s connection we had a Open Beta party, four people connecting to Aion, on the same connection, NO LAG we played for about 12 hours total yesterday, (It's kinda sad, I admit that, but when you work 60hrs a week and you got a three day weekend you gorge on doing what you love)

I take that back one of the players on a laptop was connecting to the network wirelessly and they had some lag spikes, probably wasn't NCSofts fault though, probably something more along the lines of being on a laptop with a wireless connection.

But yes I expierenced no lag, very few bugs, which I reported cause its a BETA and the reason they let you play is so you can report bugs so they can fix them.

People on this forum make me want to throw things. Hard. At skulls

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