hang on, when did iraq get internet to be having hackers, i though we blew up all their routers in desert storm =p

north korea has some massive hackers, funded by their tyrant and his 100 dollar bill printing presses, they make such good counterfit money we only find it because its nicer then the real ones(better quality).

Originally posted by neorandom

 hang on, when did iraq get internet to be having hackers, i though we blew up all their routers in desert storm =p

north korea has some massive hackers, funded by their tyrant and his 100 dollar bill printing presses, they make such good counterfit money we only find it because its nicer then the real ones(better quality).

how does a storm in a desert blow stuff up?

were you being scartastic?

Originally posted by Craggur

They decided to installs GameGuard on your HDD. So, unless I decide to shell out money for a separate gaming rig or waste my time partitioning my HDD; I'm not going to pay for this crap.
 

Yeah not like Google have been providing the CIA with data for years. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206seedmoney.htm

Just cancel your internet and move on.

Originally posted by Craggur

They decided to installs GameGuard on your HDD. So, unless I decide to shell out money for a separate gaming rig or waste my time partitioning my HDD; I'm not going to pay for this crap.
 

SOOOOO, I thought you where joking, but I see that you are serious, which is very sad, but hey, ignorance is BLISS. If you are worried about GG, then I would disconnect your comp from the net. Most comps are attacked 30+ times a night, hence the reason for a AV and firewall(hardware) to always be up. GG doesnt make your comp more or less violable.

Originally posted by Craggur

No cuz i wont buy it.  You can have ppl watching what u google and what u watch on youtube.  Maybe that is cool if your a Chinaman, but it's not cool if you live in a "free country".

So what you don't want people looking at all the nasty porn you search up? Or other crazy stuff since you're obviously hiding something.

Besides, GAMEGUARD IS NOT a rootkit. Honestly, are you really that paranoid to think a Company will get a system that gives you a virus/keylogger/rootkit/ whatever?

.... I just can't.... the stupidity...

sigh

P.s: I personally don't like gameguard, however i do like Aion... like it or not, gameguard is what Aion uses. If it does have a rootkit or w/e NCsoft will change it.

Originally posted by Natttas

Originally posted by Craggur

They decided to installs GameGuard on your HDD. So, unless I decide to shell out money for a separate gaming rig or waste my time partitioning my HDD; I'm not going to pay for this crap.
 

 

SOOOOO, I thought you where joking, but I see that you are serious, which is very sad, but hey, ignorance is BLISS. If you are worried about GG, then I would disconnect your comp from the net. Most comps are attacked 30+ times a night, hence the reason for a AV and firewall(hardware) to always be up. GG doesnt make your comp more or less violable.

Installing GG by its very nature pretty much nulls your av so whats your point? The last sentence is simply false and untrue. I'm not saying use it or not (personally I would die before opening up my machine like that, even hacked GG is a massive security risk), but people should be aware of what they are actually installing.

How many game companies actually use GG, how many of them are Korean? Cheap pre-packaged solutions that don't actually work and have potentially bad side effects

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Installing GG by its very nature pretty much nulls your av so whats your point? The last sentence is simply false and untrue. I'm not saying use it or not (personally I would die before opening up my machine like that, even hacked GG is a massive security risk), but people should be aware of what they are actually installing.

How many game companies actually use GG, how many of them are Korean? Cheap pre-packaged solutions that don't actually work and have potentially bad side effects

In what way does GG nullify your Anti Virus Software?

I run Avast Home Edition and it keeps happily running when I start up any game that uses GameGuard.

Seriously, all this paranoia makes me laugh real hard.

If you are so worried about Gameguard, then I advise you to disconnect yourself from the internet and throw your computer out of the window. (first magnetising your harddrives ofcourse, to erase all sensitive data).

Because the moment you hook up on the internet you are intruded from all directions. And there is nothing stopping it.

Gameguard is a saint piece of software compaired to the Internet Browers, google, Microsoft themselves and what not.

So please. Spare me all the paranoia about GG! It's getting more and more pathetic now.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

In what way does GG nullify your Anti Virus Software?

I run Avast Home Edition and it keeps happily running when I start up any game that uses GameGuard.

Seriously, all this paranoia makes me laugh real hard.

If you are so worried about Gameguard, then I advise you to disconnect yourself from the internet and throw your computer out of the window. (first magnetising your harddrives ofcourse, to erase all sensitive data).

Because the moment you hook up on the internet you are intruded from all directions. And there is nothing stopping it.

Gameguard is a saint piece of software compaired to the Internet Browers, google, Microsoft themselves and what not.

So please. Spare me all the paranoia about GG! It's getting more and more pathetic now.

What a disingenious strawman of an argument.  If you cannot debate in an honest fashion it is obvious that you don't have much of an argument at all.

It is a fact that GG uses nefarious programming techniques to overcome all sorts of system level security procedures against recommendations of system producers, and it is a fact that lots and lots of people have had major problems with it because of this.  Sitting on the edges denying that anyone has had any problems because of your own experience is frankly juvenile and is of use to no-one, least of all yourself.  What people chose to put on their system is up to them, particularly when it an utter (and potentially dangerous) POS such as GG.   If you have had a positive experience then good for you, but please don't be so pathetic as to deny that others do have problems with the software.

Let it be said that NCSoft has a commercial interest in denying problems with GG.

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Originally posted by FunkyLasagne
Rootkit or not, GG is a notoriously badly written and ineffective program, and some of the arguments in its favour here are either written by 10 year olds or the serioulsy hard of thinking ("if it was bad they wouldn't use it" - LOL.  Take a look at history mate).  If the OP doesn't want to install because of it then fair does to him.  Who the hell are any of you to say otherwise?

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Who are we to say otherwise?

This is a "FORUM".

Comprehend much?

Originally posted by logangregor

 

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Originally posted by FunkyLasagne
Rootkit or not, GG is a notoriously badly written and ineffective program, and some of the arguments in its favour here are either written by 10 year olds or the serioulsy hard of thinking ("if it was bad they wouldn't use it" - LOL.  Take a look at history mate).  If the OP doesn't want to install because of it then fair does to him.  Who the hell are any of you to say otherwise?

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Who are we to say otherwise?

This is a "FORUM".

Comprehend much?

I comprehend great thanks.  Not sure you do, as you seem to think that this being a "FORUM" and all allows you to tell people what to put on their system or not.

 yep ,my norton system work was deactivated because of a supposed error ,weird it works all the time but with gg around it start to act like a noob(NS)

OMG! People can even complain about GG??? 

Dont understand the issue here as when your playing AION you arnt surfing Free porn sites or downloading piratebay torrents ... so you wouldnt acquire any viruses anyways and if anyone tried to connect to your computer Vista tells you anyways.... So whats the issue?

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Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

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Originally posted by logangregor

 

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Originally posted by FunkyLasagne
Rootkit or not, GG is a notoriously badly written and ineffective program, and some of the arguments in its favour here are either written by 10 year olds or the serioulsy hard of thinking ("if it was bad they wouldn't use it" - LOL.  Take a look at history mate).  If the OP doesn't want to install because of it then fair does to him.  Who the hell are any of you to say otherwise?

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Who are we to say otherwise?
This is a "FORUM".
Comprehend much?

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I comprehend great thanks.  Not sure you do, as you seem to think that this being a "FORUM" and all allows you to tell people what to put on their system or not.

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I don't randomly tell people what to put on their systems.

But if they make a post, are they talking to themselves?

If I go to the maximumpc forums and tell someone I'm building a computer and I get critiques for or against what I plan to put in my system, you wont see someone come and say "Who are you to tell him what to put in his system!!"

And regardless of what people tell the poster, he will make a decision.

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Originally posted by drbaltazar
 yep ,my norton system work was deactivated because of a supposed error ,weird it works all the time but with gg around it start to act like a noob(NS)

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From my experience Norton causes loads of problems all on its own.

Originally posted by linren

Rootkit, Gameguard, Firewall, Anti-virus, Virus, how they work and how to configure them.  Might want to read it over somewhere online.

If this is troll attempt, then pretend I did not say anything, since it is meaningless.

My rig can run any game with Gameguard and still does fine, in fact my asshat friend is playing on my OBT account because he did not bother to learn how to setup his rig properly.  Which is severely cutting into my OBT time for the past 8 or 9 hours.  I've lost track.

Sorry to have lost you in Aion, good bye (AOL voice).

you are right

I always had Game guard on the comp and througout the years bever had problem running an pc or mmo game

GameGuard is 100% safe. It's annoying as hell though.

Originally posted by FunkyLasagne

Originally posted by Guillermo197

In what way does GG nullify your Anti Virus Software?

I run Avast Home Edition and it keeps happily running when I start up any game that uses GameGuard.

Seriously, all this paranoia makes me laugh real hard.

If you are so worried about Gameguard, then I advise you to disconnect yourself from the internet and throw your computer out of the window. (first magnetising your harddrives ofcourse, to erase all sensitive data).

Because the moment you hook up on the internet you are intruded from all directions. And there is nothing stopping it.

Gameguard is a saint piece of software compaired to the Internet Browers, google, Microsoft themselves and what not.

So please. Spare me all the paranoia about GG! It's getting more and more pathetic now.

 

What a disingenious strawman of an argument.  If you cannot debate in an honest fashion it is obvious that you don't have much of an argument at all.

It is a fact that GG uses nefarious programming techniques to overcome all sorts of system level security procedures against recommendations of system producers, and it is a fact that lots and lots of people have had major problems with it because of this.  Sitting on the edges denying that anyone has had any problems because of your own experience is frankly juvenile and is of use to no-one, least of all yourself.  What people chose to put on their system is up to them, particularly when it an utter (and potentially dangerous) POS such as GG.   If you have had a positive experience then good for you, but please don't be so pathetic as to deny that others do have problems with the software.

I'm quite interested in all of this but would like to know more about the facts of GG and it's "Nefarious" techniques, your post didn't contain any facts for me to check up on, please could you list them as I'm genuinely interested in knowing about what GG actually does and who it's misused by these gaming companies.

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Originally posted by neorandom
hang on, when did iraq get internet to be having hackers, i though we blew up all their routers in desert storm =p

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I lol'd at the Iraq hackers comment. A lot.