From a pure combat point of view... Yes i know, sex sells. But if giving women fully clothed armor keeps the kiddies away, I'm all for it. But that's not the focus of why I posted.

Exceptions? When a game takes place in an age where there is little armor coverage such as Conan. I have no idea about the game, but at least Arnold sported only a rag about his twig and berries. It would be believable then that a women in armor would be dressed similarly.

But mainly, if as a male, I am dressed in full plate armor and you can't even see my face let alone any skin, then why would a female have Plate Boots, a plate thong and bikini, and Plate gloves? ... more importantly, offer the same protection rating as the full on plate guy?

Again, the sex sells thing?... it's not a good enough excuse. Not as long as the rational part of my brain exists. And since I gave WoW up a long time ago, I still have a rational brain cell somewhere.

You dirty stinking feminist.

I just found a great example:

Originally posted by trapdoor

From a pure combat point of view... Yes i know, sex sells. But if giving women fully clothed armor keeps the kiddies away, I'm all for it. But that's not the focus of why I posted.

Exceptions? When a game takes place in an age where there is little armor coverage such as Conan. I have no idea about the game, but at least Arnold sported only a rag about his twig and berries. It would be believable then that a women in armor would be dressed similarly.

But mainly, if as a male, I am dressed in full plate armor and you can't even see my face let alone any skin, then why would a female have Plate Boots, a plate thong and bikini, and Plate gloves? ... more importantly, offer the same protection rating as the full on plate guy?

Again, the sex sells thing?... it's not a good enough excuse. Not as long as the rational part of my brain exists. And since I gave WoW up a long time ago, I still have a rational brain cell somewhere.

Sex sells is EXACTLY why thats done. One example that comes to mind is Cabal online.  Nice eye candy

Who needs an excuse for such?

 it doesn´t make sense, its a game, game physics usually don't make sense

As everyone knows, theres a special Booty roll done during combat for females avatars. It calculates the Visible Booty Percentage something something something titties.

Seriously? You know its sex sells but yet you're asking why and what the logic behind it is?

I'm gonna assume you started this because you want to discuss it and stuff, because as far as the question the title of the thread presents....it makes perfect sense why the females armor is as it is from a selling point.

p.s... yeah it annoys me too since I rather have a kool armored female warrior in the games, then a half naked one.

Real-life female clothing doesn't make practical sense, why the hell should female MMO armour?  If a fantasy mmo was real life, given the choice of solid, utilitarian armour, or sexy armour with high-heels, they'd pick the sexy armour just to look good.  :D

It says a lot about us, the gaming community, if a game has better sales just because it has pixelated bobbies...

I for one prefer artsy armors/overals over realistic ones. 

Originally posted by trapdoor

From a pure combat point of view... Yes i know, sex sells. But if giving women fully clothed armor keeps the kiddies away, I'm all for it. But that's not the focus of why I posted.

Exceptions? When a game takes place in an age where there is little armor coverage such as Conan. I have no idea about the game, but at least Arnold sported only a rag about his twig and berries. It would be believable then that a women in armor would be dressed similarly.

But mainly, if as a male, I am dressed in full plate armor and you can't even see my face let alone any skin, then why would a female have Plate Boots, a plate thong and bikini, and Plate gloves? ... more importantly, offer the same protection rating as the full on plate guy?

Again, the sex sells thing?... it's not a good enough excuse. Not as long as the rational part of my brain exists. And since I gave WoW up a long time ago, I still have a rational brain cell somewhere.

It is of course a good enough excuse. They prob wont miss your business.

And it is SILLY to be "rational" playing games. I guess you don't play ANY game then. 

Armot itself doesn't make sense in mmorpg. 

People wear full suits of heavy plate type armor should not even be able to run or move at a decent speed.

Real life fights are based on evading most hits, and a few accuracy and strong hits determine the winner.

People don't take damage from being attacked, they get injured, and injured in the wrong place = death.

See, if it is a game, alot of things already don't make sense, female armor is only a very very small portion of it.  I mean if something is not going to make sense to begin with, why not have skimpy armor?  I think that is pretty logical.

Originally posted by kakasaki

It says a lot about us, the gaming community, if a game has better sales just because it has pixelated bobbies...

Sure it does... It says that the majority of us are male... Eye candy doesn't make or break a game. Its the games dynamics and fun factor that do that. Eye candy is simply the icing on the cake.

Your soo silly. You know you like looking.

I am a girl player and I like the sexy pieces. It helps distract the boys so I can beat em up or ninja them.

mwahahahahaha

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Originally posted by trapdoor
From a pure combat point of view... Yes i know, sex sells. But if giving women fully clothed armor keeps the kiddies away, I'm all for it. But that's not the focus of why I posted.

Exceptions? When a game takes place in an age where there is little armor coverage such as Conan. I have no idea about the game, but at least Arnold sported only a rag about his twig and berries. It would be believable then that a women in armor would be dressed similarly.

But mainly, if as a male, I am dressed in full plate armor and you can't even see my face let alone any skin, then why would a female have Plate Boots, a plate thong and bikini, and Plate gloves? ... more importantly, offer the same protection rating as the full on plate guy?

Again, the sex sells thing?... it's not a good enough excuse. Not as long as the rational part of my brain exists. And since I gave WoW up a long time ago, I still have a rational brain cell somewhere.

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If that bone crunching ogre is busy staring at your bouncing and barely covered jubblies then he's more vulnerable to attack. It's simply a sign that women in games use their brains to gain the advantage.

Honestly in the heat of a fight, I don't see sex appeal giving a women an advantage at all. I would love to see an mmo were they actually penalized such armor personally.

This is not going to protect you. Honestly i would probably gut this person, and then probably rape her.

This is going to keep you alive. I would probably turn tail if I saw someone running at me in this.

Im all for realistic armor, personally I think a woman decked out in Plate is pretty damn badass.

Originally posted by Wolfenpride

Honestly in the heat of a fight, I don't see sex appeal giving a women an advantage at all. I would love to see an mmo were they actually penalized such armor personally.

This is not going to protect you. Honestly i would probably gut this person, and then probably rape her.

 

This is going to keep you alive. I would probably turn tail if I saw someone running at me in this.

 

Im all for realistic armor, personally I think a woman decked out in Plate is pretty damn badass.

looks like you have some issues to deal with eh, besides who cares its a game.

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Originally posted by Wolfenpride
Honestly in the heat of a fight, I don't see sex appeal giving a women an advantage at all. I would love to see an mmo were they actually penalized such armor personally.
This is not going to protect you. Honestly i would probably gut this person, and then probably rape her.#1

 
This is going to keep you alive. I would probably turn tail if I saw someone running at me in this.

 
Im all for realistic armor, personally I think a woman decked out in Plate#2 is pretty damn badass.

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#1: You say the sex appeal doesn't give an advantage, but then you talk about rape which means you'd be aroused and thus at a disadvantage whether you realize it or not. Also, that's just sick, you need help. ;)

#2: In all likelihood a woman wouldn't be able to carry around a set of full plate as well as a man, which I imagine is where the idea of a girl wearing just enough pieces to cover her vital areas comes from.

It's called sexism, and I doubt it will disappear from the western world for a long time. Like you stated it makes money, and making money seems to be the main goal of most things today. Be that big corporation or individual person.

OMG HOW CAN ANYONE NOT LIKE BEWBZ!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by linren

Armot itself doesn't make sense in mmorpg. 

People wear full suits of heavy plate type armor should not even be able to run or move at a decent speed.

Real life fights are based on evading most hits, and a few accuracy and strong hits determine the winner.

People don't take damage from being attacked, they get injured, and injured in the wrong place = death.

See, if it is a game, alot of things already don't make sense, female armor is only a very very small portion of it.  I mean if something is not going to make sense to begin with, why not have skimpy armor?  I think that is pretty logical.

Clearly you've never worn combat armor. You would be amazed at how lighte and thin it is. Let me put it in perspective for you. The body armor troops wear now is heavier than the armor they wore a thousand years ago.  If what you were saying were true no one ever would have worn armor it would have never been invented.  Skimpy armor isn't logical. It's an affectation. Just like the huge cumbersome shoulder pads you see in WoW. No one would wear such a thing in real combat.

Well I prefer to wear whatever I want to and not have functionality tied to my appearence but still I don't like the general overly flashy armor styles of most games.  Because I don't have an issue the practicality but I just think it looks gaudy, overly decorative and stupid,  asian games a really bad for this.

But I don't want too realistic either, where armor is just a big tin can and all the clothing is a collection of drab outfits

Originally posted by Tinagame

 

Your soo silly. You know you like looking.

I am a girl player and I like the sexy pieces. It helps distract the boys so I can beat em up or ninja them.

mwahahahahaha

 

lol nicely worded

How many people actually zoom up on a random female character when they are running around killing mobs, selling loot, or PvPing? MAYBE if you're sitting around crafting or just chatting and playing with the camera angles. Then again I do stop to look at pretty capes and armors in GW. XD So a guy might stop and look at female pixel bodies.

Skimpy armor is unrealistic but it does help distinguish between male and female characters, especially if they are wearing helms. Either way, it is a nice bonus for the guy gamers, I guess. Although I wouldn't mind it if there were a couple designs of each armor. Skimpy and... say, protective (even for the guys too)?

I need a shoulder pet to warn me about posting on forums. I brought the topic up to discuss. not for me to rant. "I was just saying..." *sigh*

Everyone's examples of the realism take... well that's an extreme. I'm always pumped about playing games that try to make the realism stronger... but not at the sake of taking the fun out of games. Or when the activity is too difficult to translate into the game.

For me, while it is "something to look at", it kind of breaks the immersion for me when the armor just seems out of place. and not in a good way.

Anyway. My intentions did produce the result I was hoping for anyway. At least one other person shared my views (even if only slightly).