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BEMotormouth

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Joined: 4/08/08
Posts: 8

 
9/01/09 10:27:29 AM#1
sa1yaman

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Posts: 224

9/01/09 10:35:48 AM#2

I'm back when hills are no longer pyramids made of 4 triangles. 

PS: sup, DOC?

Playing: Aion, Failed Earth
Waiting: Final Fantasy XIV, JGE
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willemakit

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 5

9/04/09 1:40:30 PM#3

i wonder why the game runs so poorly with the lack of depth now and how it is going to run like a wet dream with all the eyecandy?

Also, i notice no fps meter with the ground video's. Was that on purpose?

If you look at the air video, the fps meter hovers around 29 -30 fps with nothing going on. With my 295gtx i run around 150 fps. I also notice someone got sloppy editing the video at the end where the fps was at 24 fps.  :(

Trueth

Advanced Member

Joined: 8/21/08
Posts: 212

9/04/09 1:45:09 PM#4
Originally posted by willemakit

i wonder why the game runs so poorly with the lack of depth now and how it is going to run like a wet dream with all the eyecandy?


 

One post wonder - Are you a sock puppet for BF1942?

 

About 12 of us from the 2001 days are already planning on coming back once this update is live.

willemakit

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 5

9/04/09 1:50:30 PM#5

not at all.  i have only read posts before never commented. But after watching the new video's i noticed that and wanted to see if anyone knew the answer. See i do remember the sneaky trick of hiding fps crs did at e3 years back.

Vexe

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/25/06
Posts: 207

Hoorah

9/04/09 1:55:47 PM#6

Hiding? That's just not something people usually show.

willemakit

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 5

9/04/09 1:58:11 PM#7

one would think ,but with crs it is better to put a stickup note over the fps meter than turn it off. lol i guess the 12 fps didn't look so good.

hardcase

Novice Member

Joined: 3/13/04
Posts: 359

9/04/09 2:08:58 PM#8

If you look closely at the notes you will see that they are going to be able to increase the fps, more so than they did in 1.29 or 1.28.not sure which that jumped my fps from 45 to 90 plus in city fighting. That fps complaint is more out of date than you know.
 

willemakit

Novice Member

Joined: 11/10/08
Posts: 5

9/04/09 2:20:03 PM#9

ok

spizz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/11/04
Posts: 772

9/10/09 7:01:58 AM#10

Before - After Screenshots which show the difference with the new update

....looks nice

 

 

nubadak

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Joined: 1/07/07
Posts: 102

" Chuck Norris and Buck Rogers are really brothers..one joined the army one the air force."

11/14/09 2:45:16 PM#11

Acualy this looks like big changes...I'm temped to re-sub. This game still has one thing NO other game in the MMO market has atm "open totaly interactive world." It's also historicaly accurate.

Very interesting indeed, I'll have me eye on this one.

 

Nub's!

 

Will this update be enough to bring players back in droves?

YES! the graphic's alone will bring back ton's.
NO! the eye candy is nice but are the moutians still big triangles?
(login to vote)
angriff

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 58

11/14/09 7:43:36 PM#12

Honestly they are only updating the graphics a little and the ragdoll effects.  They are making mechanics changes to the capture routintes and the ability to shoot at enemy once your Depot has been captured has been lost in favor or stopping griefers from spawn camping in a spawnable depot..  Unfortunately they are not adding anything new to do or anything decent mechanics wide from the previews.  This may change in the release as they may have been keeping something secret which they often do.  If you left the game because of the boring aspect of something you were playing then you will not see anything new to do in the previews.  So I would wait till after release which seems to be forever since this took almost a year this patch.


The basic problem with this game is that they dont test it thoroughly enough and things get broken that they spend the next 4 months fixing.  I think it is quality control of the original code or at least that is what the dev team keeps saying as the main excuse... "old code is full of stuff not needed or they dont understand?"  Take for example the graphics update on they spent so much time on for the bridges.  They are nicer than the old ones but a bridge has fewfunctions and that is to cross, buld or blow up.  When it was put in you would think they would look at it yet they dont.  The ATGs guns (m1) in particular can no longer sit on the bridge and kill tanks approaching.  The collision routine is broken making the atg bounce all over and sink into the bridge.  A previous patch allowed the infantry fall through if a boat was passing underneath.  They fixed the boat problem and seemingly created the atg problem.  A vicious circle that has been the major reason this game has never achieved the same status of other really nice MMPORG games as far as graphics and such.  There are mechanics that worked 4 years ago that have been broken for 3.5 years after a patch caused them not work.  So what you did that was fun before you cant do anymore. ( ex is getting infantry onto your boat with the crew nets) .  It is really frustrating from a dev side I am sure but even more so from a paying customer side.

 

I would wait if you are looking for something new.   

angriff

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 58

11/14/09 7:52:45 PM#13
Originally posted by spizz

Before - After Screenshots which show the difference with the new update

....looks nice

 

 

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

vladakov

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/03/09
Posts: 346

The Class Strife:

Socialists <-> Capitalists

pick your side

11/14/09 7:53:13 PM#14

 when will it go live?

angriff

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 58

11/14/09 9:35:37 PM#15
Originally posted by vladakov

 when will it go live?

 

Now that is funny... Live what?  Live open beta or live actual main game?  Chances are they will push it out earlier than Christmas so they can sit back and think they have accomplished something and given the paying customers something they wanted.  ...Again ..the acronym for this game is Soon. but really it will be as usual too soon.

 

PS I pick the Socialist side.

vladakov

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/03/09
Posts: 346

The Class Strife:

Socialists <-> Capitalists

pick your side

11/15/09 7:08:26 AM#16
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by vladakov

 when will it go live?

 

Now that is funny... Live what?  Live open beta or live actual main game?  Chances are they will push it out earlier than Christmas so they can sit back and think they have accomplished something and given the paying customers something they wanted.  ...Again ..the acronym for this game is Soon. but really it will be as usual too soon.

 

PS I pick the Socialist side.

thanks for the reply, i ment live in the real game, nice to see tho it won´t take will  Q4 2010 or something....

 

PS I don´t think i´ve ever seen a socialist american before ^^

angriff

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 58

11/15/09 9:24:38 AM#17
Originally posted by vladakov
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by vladakov

 when will it go live?

 

Now that is funny... Live what?  Live open beta or live actual main game?  Chances are they will push it out earlier than Christmas so they can sit back and think they have accomplished something and given the paying customers something they wanted.  ...Again ..the acronym for this game is Soon. but really it will be as usual too soon.

 

PS I pick the Socialist side.

thanks for the reply, i ment live in the real game, nice to see tho it won´t take will  Q4 2010 or something....

 

PS I don´t think i´ve ever seen a socialist american before ^^

I am not a Leninist because there are no peasants left in America to rally.  I am not  Platoist because Plato himself could not get his Platonic Society Experiment to work.

One must redefine socialism itself being linked to such failed experiments as Marxist-Leninism, Moaist -Deng Xiaopingism and Plato.  There is no other way but to separate these examples as not being true socialism but rather experiments in personal cults with the idea of the cult creating a better society.  True peasant revolutions under these examples did finally remove the last vestige in human society of Monarchism.  

Socialism  and the Socialist attempts to make the world a kinder, gentler place where all persons have the right to a peaceful, healthy and educated place to live. Socialism attempts to redirect societies efforts away from the singular allowances of the Capitalistic society that allows and trains "Loose People" to run it for the extreme profit of a few in the hopes that it will cause enough increase in production that the majority of society will benefit to an increased degree.  While this theory of trickling down of capital with create a movement toward the betterment of society of whole , this is wildly mistaken.   The recent banking collapse in the US and such events as Enron, Bernie Madoff and AIG show the dangers to society of allowing unrestricted Capitalistism are as dangerous as the early 1900 Trusts such as Standard Oil and US Steel.   

The recent collapse of the democratic socialistic-capitalistic experiment attempt  at redirecting capitalistic efforts toward providing cheaper housing for the less fortunate backfired into the Capitalists unfettered speculation and creation of fictitious wealth through exotic and well invented derivative type investments.  These investments represented a leverage of wealth that even though leveraged capital investments were outlawed in the US over 100 years ago they were reintroduced by the current American Capitalistic "Loose People" whose only goal is their increased wealth on a personal basis.  There recent attempts in courts to blame the very system that allowed them to attempt the redirection of capital for the good of the lower American classes in the form of cheaper borrowing are proof that the experiments such as started under the Clinton Administration  that the Capitalists will harm society itself in an attempt to make himself wealthier.  Personal wealth will forever be the only objective of the  Capitalist regardless of the effect on others and society as a whole. 

There are only a few rare exceptions to this rule and that is only after the Capitalist has achieved unparalleled wealth through the invention of a new economic product.  Then the Capitalist becomes a social philanthropist giving away part of his wealth in a self satisfying socialistic manner to a limited part of society.  The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a modern example of  such a venture.  Here the capitalist still retains control of the distribution to his own enjoyment and satisfaction.  Though it does benefit society it is not effective in creating the gentler society and again becomes clogged by lawyers and distribution networks that sap off large portions of the funds to fuel their existence.

Socialism is not a political process or mechanism but rather a social mechanism whereby individuals attempt to redirect societies efforts at personal wealth toward a more even grounds to compete.  It does not eliminate competition or the ability of one person to have two pots instead of one.  This is a natural phenomena in society so provide for the future of oneself and their offspring.  Socialism attempts to prevent the accumulation of  shared wealth by one person or group of persons in excess to the demise of others in society.  

Socialism attempts to break down and eliminate the nation tribal structure of the current world society.  Nationalism is by far the most aggregeous of Capitalistic inventions.  It is in fact the age old tribal feud that creates in society  attempts in a Capitalistic manner to improve one group of people over or at the demise of another.  The example of  Capitalistic Colonialism until the early 1900s is prime  for tribal nationalism.     

 

 

1 http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Biographies/Philosophy/Plato.htm

vladakov

Hard Core Member

Joined: 9/03/09
Posts: 346

The Class Strife:

Socialists <-> Capitalists

pick your side

11/15/09 9:29:15 AM#18
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by vladakov
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by vladakov

 when will it go live?

 

Now that is funny... Live what?  Live open beta or live actual main game?  Chances are they will push it out earlier than Christmas so they can sit back and think they have accomplished something and given the paying customers something they wanted.  ...Again ..the acronym for this game is Soon. but really it will be as usual too soon.

 

PS I pick the Socialist side.

thanks for the reply, i ment live in the real game, nice to see tho it won´t take will  Q4 2010 or something....

 

PS I don´t think i´ve ever seen a socialist american before ^^

I am not a Leninist because there are no peasants left in America to rally.  I am not  Platoist because Plato himself could not get his Platonic Society Experiment to work.

One must redefine socialism itself being linked to such failed experiments as Marxist-Leninism, Moaist -Deng Xiaopingism and Plato.  There is no other way but to separate these examples as not being true socialism but rather experiments in personal cults with the idea of the cult creating a better society.  True peasant revolutions under these examples did finally remove the last vestige in human society of Monarchism.  

Socialism  and the Socialist attempts to make the world a kinder, gentler place where all persons have the right to a peaceful, healthy and educated place to live. Socialism attempts to redirect societies efforts away from the singular allowances of the Capitalistic society that allows and trains "Loose People" to run it for the extreme profit of a few in the hopes that it will cause enough increase in production that the majority of society will benefit to an increased degree.  While this theory of trickling down of capital with create a movement toward the betterment of society of whole , this is wildly mistaken.   The recent banking collapse in the US and such events as Enron, Bernie Madoff and AIG show the dangers to society of allowing unrestricted Capitalistism are as dangerous as the early 1900 Trusts such as Standard Oil and US Steel.   

The recent collapse of the democratic socialistic-capitalistic experiment attempt  at redirecting capitalistic efforts toward providing cheaper housing for the less fortunate backfired into the Capitalists unfettered speculation and creation of fictitious wealth through exotic and well invented derivative type investments.  These investments represented a leverage of wealth that even though leveraged capital investments were outlawed in the US over 100 years ago they were reintroduced by the current American Capitalistic "Loose People" whose only goal is their increased wealth on a personal basis.  There recent attempts in courts to blame the very system that allowed them to attempt the redirection of capital for the good of the lower American classes in the form of cheaper borrowing are proof that the experiments such as started under the Clinton Administration  that the Capitalists will harm society itself in an attempt to make himself wealthier.  Personal wealth will forever be the only objective of the  Capitalist regardless of the effect on others and society as a whole. 

There are only a few rare exceptions to this rule and that is only after the Capitalist has achieved unparalleled wealth through the invention of a new economic product.  Then the Capitalist becomes a social philanthropist giving away part of his wealth in a self satisfying socialistic manner to a limited part of society.  The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a modern example of  such a venture.  Here the capitalist still retains control of the distribution to his own enjoyment and satisfaction.  Though it does benefit society it is not effective in creating the gentler society and again becomes clogged by lawyers and distribution networks that sap off large portions of the funds to fuel their existence.

Socialism is not a political process or mechanism but rather a social mechanism whereby individuals attempt to redirect societies efforts at personal wealth toward a more even grounds to compete.  It does not eliminate competition or the ability of one person to have two pots instead of one.  This is a natural phenomena in society so provide for the future of oneself and their offspring.  Socialism attempts to prevent the accumulation of  shared wealth by one person or group of persons in excess to the demise of others in society.  

Socialism attempts to break down and eliminate the nation tribal structure of the current world society.  Nationalism is by the most aggregeous of Capitalistic inventions.  It is in fact the age old tribal feud that creates in society  attempts in a Capitalistic manner to improve one group of people over or at the demise of another.  The example of  Capitalistic Colonialism until the early 1900s is prime  for tribal nationalism.     

 

 

1 http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Biographies/Philosophy/Plato.htm

we can all copy paste from different sites, but if you state socialism doesn´t have political values, your ignorrant and subjective, and above all a true capitalist american.

angriff

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 58

11/15/09 5:09:13 PM#19
Originally posted by vladakov
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by vladakov
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by vladakov

 when will it go live?

 

Now that is funny... Live what?  Live open beta or live actual main game?  Chances are they will push it out earlier than Christmas so they can sit back and think they have accomplished something and given the paying customers something they wanted.  ...Again ..the acronym for this game is Soon. but really it will be as usual too soon.

 

PS I pick the Socialist side.

thanks for the reply, i ment live in the real game, nice to see tho it won´t take will  Q4 2010 or something....

 

PS I don´t think i´ve ever seen a socialist american before ^^

I am not a Leninist because there are no peasants left in America to rally.  I am not  Platoist because Plato himself could not get his Platonic Society Experiment to work.

One must redefine socialism itself being linked to such failed experiments as Marxist-Leninism, Moaist -Deng Xiaopingism and Plato.  There is no other way but to separate these examples as not being true socialism but rather experiments in personal cults with the idea of the cult creating a better society.  True peasant revolutions under these examples did finally remove the last vestige in human society of Monarchism.  

Socialism  and the Socialist attempts to make the world a kinder, gentler place where all persons have the right to a peaceful, healthy and educated place to live. Socialism attempts to redirect societies efforts away from the singular allowances of the Capitalistic society that allows and trains "Loose People" to run it for the extreme profit of a few in the hopes that it will cause enough increase in production that the majority of society will benefit to an increased degree.  While this theory of trickling down of capital with create a movement toward the betterment of society of whole , this is wildly mistaken.   The recent banking collapse in the US and such events as Enron, Bernie Madoff and AIG show the dangers to society of allowing unrestricted Capitalistism are as dangerous as the early 1900 Trusts such as Standard Oil and US Steel.   

The recent collapse of the democratic socialistic-capitalistic experiment attempt  at redirecting capitalistic efforts toward providing cheaper housing for the less fortunate backfired into the Capitalists unfettered speculation and creation of fictitious wealth through exotic and well invented derivative type investments.  These investments represented a leverage of wealth that even though leveraged capital investments were outlawed in the US over 100 years ago they were reintroduced by the current American Capitalistic "Loose People" whose only goal is their increased wealth on a personal basis.  There recent attempts in courts to blame the very system that allowed them to attempt the redirection of capital for the good of the lower American classes in the form of cheaper borrowing are proof that the experiments such as started under the Clinton Administration  that the Capitalists will harm society itself in an attempt to make himself wealthier.  Personal wealth will forever be the only objective of the  Capitalist regardless of the effect on others and society as a whole. 

There are only a few rare exceptions to this rule and that is only after the Capitalist has achieved unparalleled wealth through the invention of a new economic product.  Then the Capitalist becomes a social philanthropist giving away part of his wealth in a self satisfying socialistic manner to a limited part of society.  The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a modern example of  such a venture.  Here the capitalist still retains control of the distribution to his own enjoyment and satisfaction.  Though it does benefit society it is not effective in creating the gentler society and again becomes clogged by lawyers and distribution networks that sap off large portions of the funds to fuel their existence.

Socialism is not a political process or mechanism but rather a social mechanism whereby individuals attempt to redirect societies efforts at personal wealth toward a more even grounds to compete.  It does not eliminate competition or the ability of one person to have two pots instead of one.  This is a natural phenomena in society so provide for the future of oneself and their offspring.  Socialism attempts to prevent the accumulation of  shared wealth by one person or group of persons in excess to the demise of others in society.  

Socialism attempts to break down and eliminate the nation tribal structure of the current world society.  Nationalism is by the most aggregeous of Capitalistic inventions.  It is in fact the age old tribal feud that creates in society  attempts in a Capitalistic manner to improve one group of people over or at the demise of another.  The example of  Capitalistic Colonialism until the early 1900s is prime  for tribal nationalism.     

 

 

1 http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Biographies/Philosophy/Plato.htm

we can all copy paste from different sites, but if you state socialism doesn´t have political values, your ignorrant and subjective, and above all a true capitalist american.

 

What are you talking about?  Are you a nihilist and not a real socialist?  Socialism is a movement for the betterment of human society not a philosophy that one clings to in abhorrent snobbery.  Your comments even smack of Nationalism.

WesKhan1

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/09/05
Posts: 244

"Where are the rest of the village people fairy boy?" - Godslayer Caine

11/21/09 10:27:11 AM#20
Originally posted by angriff

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

 

Actually it says in one of the blogs that some things won't be able to be turned off no matter what for balance purposes.  I'm going to assume one of those will be grass.  Let's hope so.

angriff

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/30/09
Posts: 58

11/21/09 10:32:42 AM#21
Originally posted by WesKhan1
Originally posted by angriff

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

 

Actually it says in one of the blogs that some things won't be able to be turned off no matter what for balance purposes.  I'm going to assume one of those will be grass.  Let's hope so.

 

On thing you must learn if you ever want to play this game is never hope.

WesKhan1

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/09/05
Posts: 244

"Where are the rest of the village people fairy boy?" - Godslayer Caine

11/21/09 3:14:22 PM#22
Originally posted by angriff
Originally posted by WesKhan1
Originally posted by angriff

Be aware that most of that nicety  grass stuff , the players can turn off because of FPS issues and you cannot hide in safely.

 

Actually it says in one of the blogs that some things won't be able to be turned off no matter what for balance purposes.  I'm going to assume one of those will be grass.  Let's hope so.

 

On thing you must learn if you ever want to play this game is never hope.

 

I've played it and......ya you're right...sigh