Originally posted by dark3n3dsoul

Sir, this game will not fail, infact it is my assumption that this game will be amazing in every aspect of gaming. this will be so phenominal that no other rpg will beable to touch it. it is my belife that we are lookin at a new age of gaming one that will be untouchable.

THank you

~dark3n3dsoul

WOW!

My eyes got a little misty after reading this.

I don't agree in the least but...

Originally posted by dark3n3dsoul

Sir, this game will not fail, infact it is my assumption that this game will be amazing in every aspect of gaming. this will be so phenominal that no other rpg will beable to touch it. it is my belife that we are lookin at a new age of gaming one that will be untouchable.

THank you

~dark3n3dsoul

I'm guessing you had this reaction: (WARNING - sexual content)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4

First, WAR  isn't fail, AoC was.

I belive Aion will be very a successful game based on my close beta play and 10 year MMO experience on most popular titles.

Ncsoft isn't other game company. Ncsoft just like Blizzard and they all can offer tons of money to build a game if they believe and see they will get lots of profit later. overall Blizzard has better concept artist and Ncsoft know how to build a pvp game better. in general Asian developer work much harder than EU/NA developer with less salary. None doubt the Aion game engineer is uptodate than many other titles. to make sure Aion could run smoothly on middle class pc, Aion even didn't implement evironment dynamic much. so for current version, you wont see tree or grass move but with pc upgraded in future I think this game engine has potential to make a more vivid world.

Aion 1.0   lvl 1-17 is boring but everything changed after lvl18

I agree with the EVE comment. It does help reduce the issue of things like Barrens Chat, because all the kiddies get to frustrated and go back to WoW.

As for the comment about LOTRO, there is another reason as to why it didn't do so well. I've read the series and it was good, classic fantasy at it's best, but would I want to pay money to go to that world? Sorry, but no. It's just not my kind of fantasy game. AION is. Given how highly rated it is in Asia and even Game Informer's reviews, I think it might stay.

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by dark3n3dsoul

Sir, this game will not fail, infact it is my assumption that this game will be amazing in every aspect of gaming. this will be so phenominal that no other rpg will beable to touch it. it is my belife that we are lookin at a new age of gaming one that will be untouchable.

THank you

~dark3n3dsoul

 

WOW!

My eyes got a little misty after reading this.

I don't agree in the least but...

 

 

Really?? I think the game will be successful because it is going to be generic like all the other MMOs. As for untouchable? You need to jump back to reality. I know thats what you wish for but not going to happen. They are doing everything any other mmo is doing and thats what its going to make it work.

How can you say it is generic when it is the 1st MMO to introduce free flight, not only as a aesthetic feature, but as a tactical attribute that you have to take into consideration when creating your character? Not to mention that this is the first MMO that I have looked at that has lots of character customization, unlike many who boast it. If this was just another "generic" MMO, then I wouldn't be playing it, let alone looking forward to it so much.

Aion has gone Gold.

/End thread? :-)

Originally posted by ControlZero

How can you say it is generic when it is the 1st MMO to introduce free flight, not only as a aesthetic feature, but as a tactical attribute that you have to take into consideration when creating your character? Not to mention that this is the first MMO that I have looked at that has lots of character customization, unlike many who boast it. If this was just another "generic" MMO, then I wouldn't be playing it, let alone looking forward to it so much.

Have you played other MMOs???? According to your statement I guess not.  :(

I have played a number of MMOs. I have played AO, MxO, WoW, EVE, GW, TCOS, and CoV/CoH. What's your point?

Originally posted by fuzzi1983

Originally posted by ControlZero

How can you say it is generic when it is the 1st MMO to introduce free flight, not only as a aesthetic feature, but as a tactical attribute that you have to take into consideration when creating your character? Not to mention that this is the first MMO that I have looked at that has lots of character customization, unlike many who boast it. If this was just another "generic" MMO, then I wouldn't be playing it, let alone looking forward to it so much.

 

Have you played other MMOs???? According to your statement I guess not.  :(

He said this MMO has more customization and flight that sets it apart from other MMOs.  I would add to that, the open world PVP (that actually works, unlike warhammer)  and the graphics quality also set it apart. 

It's easy to troll his post by making your little smart ass comment, but what parts of his statement do you think shows he hasn't played any other MMOs?  Please be specific.  Being specific means telling us what other MMOs have flight and allow the amount of character customization that Aion does.

Originally posted by scodavis

Originally posted by fuzzi1983

Originally posted by ControlZero

How can you say it is generic when it is the 1st MMO to introduce free flight, not only as a aesthetic feature, but as a tactical attribute that you have to take into consideration when creating your character? Not to mention that this is the first MMO that I have looked at that has lots of character customization, unlike many who boast it. If this was just another "generic" MMO, then I wouldn't be playing it, let alone looking forward to it so much.

 

Have you played other MMOs???? According to your statement I guess not.  :(

He said this MMO has more customization and flight that sets it apart from other MMOs.  I would add to that, the open world PVP (that actually works, unlike warhammer)  and the graphics quality also set it apart. 

It's easy to troll his post by making your little smart ass comment, but what parts of his statement do you think shows he hasn't played any other MMOs?  Please be specific.  Being specific means telling us what other MMOs have flight and allow the amount of character customization that Aion does.

Thanks for the assist. Now keep in mind that there are some games out there (WoW, CoV/CoH, etc.) where flight exists, but not in a way as unique as AION. In AION not only is it free flight, but it's part of your body, not an item that you go get.

Also, it might be worth mentioning that AION just received the Best Online Game award at GameCon.

Originally posted by ControlZero

Also, it might be worth mentioning that AION just received the Best Online Game award at GameCon.

It might also be worth mentioning that Warhammer Online was named best new MMORPG last year (at E3? Maybe.)

It seems that awards mean nothing in this business.

Haha, touché! Allthough Warhammer is quite different now compared to the crap we got served at launch. Just to bring a little fairness to all the trolling around here.

Ontopic to OP

I think AyeON will do better then WAR n AoC. 

Originally posted by rr2real

Curious cause I don't want to buy another doomed MMO 

My advice is to stay in WoW.

Originally posted by silicon111

Ontopic to OP

I think AyeON will do better then WAR n AoC. 

There is no comparison - Aion is finished and polished, the other two are poo.

Originally posted by Spaceweed10

Originally posted by silicon111

Ontopic to OP

I think AyeON will do better then WAR n AoC. 

 

There is no comparison - Aion is finished and polished, the other two are poo.

Again ... so many opinions thrown around xD

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Originally posted by Spaceweed10

Originally posted by silicon111

Ontopic to OP

I think AyeON will do better then WAR n AoC. 

 

There is no comparison - Aion is finished and polished, the other two are poo.

 

Again ... so many opinions thrown around xD

Yes. Thats what this thread all about=).

Originally posted by slask777

Haha, touché! Allthough Warhammer is quite different now compared to the crap we got served at launch. Just to bring a little fairness to all the trolling around here.

It HAS improved, just not enough. Open RvR is much better than it was at launch - except for T4. Hard to keep people playing when end game is garbage.

Its already a success in Asia so no not like WAR and AoC.

Originally posted by Sasori_jap

Its already a success in Asia so no not like WAR and AoC.

took the word I was going to say

Asia should keep the game alive, no matter what happens in the West.

If you ask, though:

Will Aion "fail" just like WAR and AoC in the West?

I'd have to say YES. In almost the exact same way that WAR and AoC failed.

IMO, forced PvP, with no PvE servers (I'm personally a PvPer, but that doesn't blind me to reality,)  will cut the long term numbers in the West by 50% to 66%.

Second major flaw? World design. Poorly designed and way too small game world.

In the West, I'm expecting Aion's subscription numbers at the six month mark to look very similar to WAR's numbers at the same point, with a similar curve. I'm not ruling out numbers and a curve closer to the one for AoC though. Even if people end up loving the PvP, the world design is at least as flawed and the world at least as small as what is seen in AoC.

Color enhanced post for the reading impaired! :)

I also believe that Aion will have a stable subscriber base from the beginning due to the fact that almost everyone had the chance to see it so we wont have any bad suprises here...

Originally posted by fiontar

Asia should keep the game alive, no matter what happens in the West.

If you ask, though:

Will Aion "fail" just like WAR and AoC in the West?

I'd have to say YES. In almost the exact same way that WAR and AoC failed.

IMO, forced PvP, with no PvE servers (I'm personally a PvPer, but that doesn't blind me to reality,)  will cut the long term numbers in the West by 50% to 66%.

Second major flaw? World design. Poorly designed and way too small game world.

In the West, I'm expecting Aion's subscription numbers at the six month mark to look very similar to WAR's numbers at the same point, with a similar curve. I'm not ruling out numbers and a curve closer to the one for AoC though. Even if people end up loving the PvP, the world design is at least as flawed and the world at least as small as what is seen in AoC.

Color enhanced post for the reading impaired! :)

I don't know man...I certainly don't think it's going to have numbers the likes of WoW in the West but I think it has a lot more going for it than those other two games.  Although you're right not having different server choices such as PvE and PvP will turn away some and the size of the world if nothing else least from a replay/alt standpoint will hurt this game.  However, it appears to me anyways that it has a lot more to offer than those other two games and is much more polished than the other two were. 

If Warhammer's PvP didn't turn into an absolute mess at T4, the game's PvE  wasn't so lackluster, and an apparent flaw with their game engine since enormous PvP battles turned into a lagfest or even shut down the server that game could have retained a hell of a lot of players.  As for AoC, well, some great concepts in that game got lost amongst the fact the core mechanics of the game were inherently flawed and they were one of the few companies I've seen that succeeded in breaking more things than fixing them on a continual basis for quite some time with their patching.  Plus, how easy it was to reach max lvl and there was little to do once that was reached for quite some time after launch that got people frustrated with that game.  Both of those games also added too many servers splitting up the population too much as well although to be fair this has been a common error made as of late by a lot of companies because they want to try and avoid Blizzard's debacle at launch.

If this game is maintained and managed properly I can see it having a rather healthy population that Warhammer and AoC could have had if they weren't so poorly managed.  Both of those games had the potential to have a much larger group playing their games on an ongoing basis.

I really think it's going to be very similar to the WAR and AOC launches in the west.

WAR had a very loyal following and look what happened,initial subs around 700k then a big drop at the 30 day mark.I think Aion may hold more of the initial subs,but I don't expect more then 600k-700k,for the west.