No, SW:TOR won't surpass WoW.  I'm a huge SW fan and I hope to see a good MMO based on it some day. I'm just skeptical of Bioware making something that will be fun for a couple of months or more. But it wouldn't matter who made it, it won't surpass WoW. Only Blizzard themselves will do that.

Originally posted by Vandarix

Originally posted by Jetrpg

Originally posted by Vandarix

Well, then its true... 11.5million people are victims.. oh well the worlds over populated as it is let them sit indoors.. that just means theres more jobs to go around.

one of my good friends fell victim to WoW was 3 weeks shy of his degree and dropped out of school.. Now he sits at home plays wow doesnt work.. Call him on the weekends when were going out clubbing etc, and he chooses WoW.

 

Thank god, if not wow then maybe herion or something count your firend lucky.

3 weeks short of his degree really?

This tall tale is a bit too tall.

 

No joke he was taking his final 4 classes and was failing them all from attendance so he dropped out.. He said he was gonna go back never did this was 6months ago.

Ok well thast sounds more liek he just didn't show to classes his last semester.

My sister did that she just didn't want to do it.

But really, is that not a good thing. If he was serious about what he was doing thewn he would have graduated if not then he wouldn't.

I mean if he is happy playign wow and doinmg whatever, is not that what matters?

Originally posted by Jetrpg

Ok well thast sounds more liek he just didn't show to classes his last semester.

My sister did that she just didn't want to do it.

But really, is that not a good thing. If he was serious about what he was doing thewn he would have graduated if not then he wouldn't.

I mean if he is happy playign wow and doinmg whatever, is not that what matters?

The school we were attending at the time was Quarter based actually not semester.. but even still anyone about to finish there associates or any degree at that mater when they're that close for a game is stupid.

If you're happy being antisocial i guess then sure lol he can play WoW but I'd go over to his house and he would play wow the whole time I'd be there. Its pretty sad really I've known the guy since we were in middle school. I stopped talking to him a couple months ago and hes never tried to contact me so I'm sure hes still in front of his computer playing WoW 24/7..

Originally posted by qotsa

No, SW:TOR won't surpass WoW.  I'm a huge SW fan and I hope to see a good MMO based on it some day. I'm just skeptical of Bioware making something that will be fun for a couple of months or more. But it wouldn't matter who made it, it won't surpass WoW. Only Blizzard themselves will do that.

I doubt even Blizzard's second MMO will be as successful as WoW.

 WoW can't stay the top-of-the-heap forever.   I thank the OP for not using that stupid 'WoW-killer' term, it's much more reasonable to ask if another game will become a leader in the market.  

If any game can, I'd think this one has a shot.   People get upset when developers produce games that are just clones of previous games, but when a company tries something a little different, like emphasizing story, the same people whine about how the game won't meet thier expectations.   

Bioware has shown they know how to make decent games, that puts them ahead of most MMORPG developers.    Maybe all it will take to become the next market leader is to make a fun game, even if it doesn't match previous models of MMORPGs. 

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by demalus

 Simply put: No.  There will be a big dropoff after the first month or so.  There is no longevity except for people who are very slow at finishing the story / don't have a lot of time to play.

 

And that may be the majority of the market. Knight of the old republic is like 60 hours of gameplay. Bioware is quote saying that this is bigger than 6-7 times the KOTOR games. So let's say you have 400 hours of gameplay. For people who can play 2 hrs a day (and my kids definitely have LESS THAN that a day because of homework and stuff), we are talking about 200 days ... 6-7 months.

That is quite enough. And I am sure there will be additional repetitive elements like PvP and free form fighting.

I think much depends from the way they are counting that 6 or 7 times the content of KOTOR. If it means that there are six classes each with roughly the same amount of content as their single-player monster, well, then I guess it won't actually equal to 400 hours of gameplay for mr. Regular Gamer. In general I think that it is way too early to say anything much from SW:TOR as most of the gameplay details are still shrouded in a veil of inter-stellar nebulae. If, and this is a big if, the gameplay content actually means the leveling content on top of which comes the end-game content, then there certainly is a chance that SW:TOR will lure the masses. Otherwise it will be a quick fling to many WoWers and other MMOers alike after which they will just quietly return to their previous churning.

Originally posted by Harkkum

 Otherwise it will be a quick fling to many WoWers and other MMOers alike after which they will just quietly return to their previous churning.

I won't quietly return!  I'm going to go all SWG Vet on BioWares ass!  I'll spend every waking moment flaming every new Star Wars release and claiming fail for anything new BW comes up with.

This game has exactly zero chance of becoming the MMO leader.

Many people say it will fail because the story will only last 2 months worth of playtime. Well, what about people who live for the end-game? I, for one, despise questing and the grind to lvl cap. I will be racing to hit lvl cap as soon as I get the game. I love lore, anymmo I play I get into the lore. I just don't do it by questing... lol. So, all who say it will fail, you need to factor end game in. End game wins!

It won't take over the Market lead.  Not a chance.  I love Star Wars and I have friends that work for Bioware, but even that doesn't blind me to the fact it won't take the lead.  However, I believe it will be in the to top 3-5 range.

Originally posted by xtravert

It won't take over the Market lead.  Not a chance.  I love Star Wars and I have friends that work for Bioware, but even that doesn't blind me to the fact it won't take the lead.  However, I believe it will be in the to top 3-5 range.

Granted it might no take the lead initialy however in time it will certainly be one of the top contenders of course if it turns out to be as good as developers are stating...

no it will come out and have people on it for a month then drop

case in point look at aoc they tried that whole story based bs and look at aoc now

Nope and not even close. Scifi star wars or not is even more niche than fantasy ever could be. Add in a linear story and remove a bunch of MMO elements and you have TOR. LOTR has more depth to it

You cant take the MMO market lead with a Single-Player-Role-Playing-Game no.

You can sell shiatload of DVD copies around launch day to blind fanbois though.

Its possible to take the lead in the short term but unf there is a turnover or unsubbing after the 1st month. Its way to early to say anyhting now. look what happened with WAR and AOC. Let wait and see.

If anybody thinks this game even has a chance to get 12 Million subs at launch is crazy.

It would be definately the best online RPG, on the true sense of the word.

And i dont think a true RPG can dominate a market , people are used to easy to play action rpgs, WoW style, and many others.

This game will (fortunately :) ) require lots of time of talk and conversations, persuading Npcs, knowing what we doing and why, and all that type of gameplay doesnt seduce the mainstream players.

YAY for a SW game where everyone can be a Jedi / Sith

LAWL this game won't even be as succesful as SWG was.

If that boring ass gameplay video they showed us was any indication then the answer is a resounding no.

Originally posted by mortharx

YAY for a SW game where everyone can be a Jedi / Sith

LAWL this game won't even be as succesful as SWG was.

You are wrong. This game will roxxorz your boxers.

Anyone who disagrees with me is wong because I know everything.