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8/25/09 1:28:02 AM#141
Originally posted by rr2real
Hmm, maybe i'll have to get into raiding after all.
gang raid on someone?
No, you vile troll. |
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8/25/09 1:29:36 AM#142
so what if we like to admire beautiful bodies? |
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Rikimaru_X
Guru
Joined: 6/06/04
Facts about Riki: I'm a ninja & one of the sexiest guys on this damn site. |
8/25/09 2:05:34 AM#143
Originally posted by rr2real
That's what I'm saying. Look at my last post. -In memory of Laura "Taera" Genender. Passed away on Aug/13/08- |
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8/25/09 4:37:51 AM#144
It doesn't work for me. Every week, MMORPG.com and FILEPLANET.com have super half-naked huge breasted women ALL OVER their page. Do I look? Like 500 times. Do I click? Never.
I don't know about you, but I'm too old for this trick. Everyone who has used the internet before or has gamed past their ignorant teenage years knows that there is never any reason to click those, or any other, half-naked ads. Of course, I'm not the average male, nor am I common in my mature understanding of false advertising. Most guys click things like half-naked anime korean MMO ads, and check out the game. It's for the same reason men call the 1-800 number for EXTENDZ or late night dating phone lines thinking "Girls THAT hot are on this phone line?! WOW!" You would think people would be smart enough to realize "EXTENDing" yourself with pills is physically impossible, pheremones and "secret" potions to win women aren't real, hot chicks do NOT call those phone lines (I assume... I guess it's POSSIBLE, but I've never tried but severely doubt it. Wouldnt they be out somewhere else?) , VIDEO GAMES have absolutely NOTHING to do with women, naked, or sex, and other things like dating websites or "The Secret to Charming Women" are nothing like they claim to be. But they're not...
And the only reason marketting advertises boobage to men instead of pec-age to women, is because men are a DEFINITE success in this kind of advertising, and business people like the safe approach. Just as in any business, trying out new things is often scary, and thus shunned by people. If you were to show off scantily clad men who are sexually exagerrated- just like stupid men... stupid women would click in droves too. Why? Because it's a Myth that women don't like sex. They're just as horny as men. Another reason is obvious though. People LOOK and check the game out because of the sexual images. They BUY it because they play video games. Since men are the primary gender who play video games, the marketting is geared towards them. If WOMEN played video games more than Men- you would see sexually exaggerrated men all over the place. But starting an advertising campaign to appeal to the sexual apetite of women wouldn't bring as much profit- because they would get the attention of millions of women, who would click the product and say "Oh...I dont play video games. CLOSE!" many times greater than the mine, who more often DO play video games. I wonder though, if men are stupid enough to believe they can take a placebo and grow their parts- why havent the ppl at EXTENDZ and ENZYTE done the same thing for women, with all-night commercials claiming they enlarged their breasts with a placebo? Women are the same as men when it comes to believing this kind of stuff (some do, some don't) so it would obviously work. And if you can exploit men, I don't see why they don't exploit women too. Afterall, this guy could be both the ENZYTE and the BOOBZYTE guy: |
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8/25/09 5:59:52 AM#145
Just to answer the dude above me, they do have products aimed at women that claim to enhance the boob size, reverse aging(wtf), diet products(which many come with serious health risks not to mention that yoyo-dieting, which these products cause, in itself which is quite damaging to the health) and so on. Women are as stupid as men and will click on, buy and use all those bullshit products and placebos cause they think it works. They even convince themselfes they see a change in size, weight and aging signs. As we men panic about our penis size, so do women panic about their issues. I'm not saying all do though, but a good percentage do. |
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8/25/09 6:36:51 AM#146
Women are as visually oriented as we men. Have you ever seen the cover of a romance novel? Practically every cover has a well sculpted man on it with his chest exposed. I've seen ads on tv that target women(like jewelry) were they got some guy who I hear women call hot. As I type this reply, to the left of the post body is an add for Fiesta that has a well sculpted male with his chest exposed. The only reason we see more female cleavage then male cleavage in game ads is because the gaming community is dominated by men. The romance novel industry is dominated by women which is why you see more half-naked men then women on the covers. You women are as bad as us men. We are just more open about it. My sister choose her favorite football team because they looked hotter in the particular uniform. |
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8/25/09 6:50:36 AM#147
funny read. taking this site in particular, it does seem to be riddled more often than not with bosom heavy ladies, but then again i also seem to recall way too many underage little girls of the japanese anime style as well. while it may all be a nice distraction for a second or two, any mature brain worth its weight in water will automatically know that the makers of those games are usually doing nothing more than overcompensating. in all my years surfing on this site, i personally have yet to join/buy any game i have seen advertised here, boobs or not. well, ok, i did buy age of conan, but that was honestly in anticipation of being able to hack and slash in conan style, not because of some tart. and just for the record, the EQ chick is ugly, flubbery boobs and all. |
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8/25/09 6:53:01 AM#148
Wow, Archangel, you must be so much better than everyone else. Truly, you are a king of men to know that this is a trick! However, assuming the game is bad because there is a large-breasted-mind-numbingly-hot woman on the ad doesn't mean the game or the product is bad. And mentioning enzyte and extendz or whatever is just stupid. Please, everyone with any sense knows that isn't real. It is the pathetic and the desperate that do that. Stop being such a tool. "There are two great powers, and they've been fighting since time began. Every advance in human life, every scrap of knowledge and wisdom and decency we have has been torn by one side from the teeth of the other. Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over ferociously between those who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us to obey and be humble and submit." — John Parry, to his son Will; "The Subtle Knife," by Phillip Pullman |
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8/25/09 7:59:50 AM#149
I think the thing that annoys me most about this type of advertising is the blatant sexism. That is, that the gents all have full armor gear or when not, they are practically neutered. No package at all. It's as if the male designers are so revolted my their own anatomy that they remove its existance entirely on their MMO males. I think the female images are stupid. The clothes they wear would never work because they don't leave anything to the imagination and protect nothing. Are guys so revolted by their anatomy though that they have to remove any hint of a package? That is really weird. Personally, as a gay guy, I like the buff male art, but for god sakes give the guy a package. You don't have to put in physics to make it bounce like all the effort that is put into boob physics, but let the guy BE MALE for god sakes. Give us gay guys and the few gals who play something to look at too.
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Hokie
Hard Core Member
Joined: 1/11/04
Hey Devs, just so you know. The more you give us to play with, the more we play. |
8/25/09 8:11:04 AM#150
Boobs and swords..not guns I say.
Nothing wrong with marketing like that. I never did clue into the whole strappy armour with bondage. Goona have to pay attention a little better.
And WAR's opening movie, even plays a little with girl on girl action. Where the sorceress has the female high elf trapped and at the last second just blows her a very sensual kiss instead. With a look of promise in her eyes (well at least that how I seen it) :)
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laleb
Novice Member
Joined: 10/16/06
To fight with honor is great. I will remember that when I pull my blade from your back |
8/25/09 8:51:58 AM#151
What kind of idiot assumes that games are the only ones who use sex to sell? Beer commercials anyone? Hell look at what shape LIPSTICK is and think about that the next time you ladies are rubbing it on your lips @@. Notice the shape of mens cologne and other items? Every time you walk into a store you get bombarded with sexual stimulus because it sells. |
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8/25/09 9:43:14 AM#152
Computer games are strangely retro in this. Computer games have always been much more conservative in many aspects, strangely so. Like storytelling or character concepts. While in the movies and books we have very succesful launches which tread new pathes and sorta adapted to the modern world, games still cling much to 1950ies stereotypes. See "The Witcher". The typical, sorta disgruntled macho man, screwing every woman he can, still staying with the cool distance, never attached, everytime above everything. You get the idea. Actually I don't believe the "booby prize" really sells so much more. Are there really a substantial portion of gamers who buy games based on cover pics? Hard to believe, I must admit. First, personally I don't like games to be over-sexualized in any way. I don't think porn and games make a good mix, so to speak. And second, I think it is a matter of balance. It perpetuates a strangely old fashioned concept of women as passive objects of male wantoness, and thus a kind of old fashioned idea. It's often bizarre to see those games filled with women all with perfect slim bodies, perfect doll faces and uber boobs, and male chars either square jawed and square chest or ugly as the night, or actually both. can understand, games are dreams and people want to see beautiful things. But why are WOW female chars beautiful (relatively to their art) and males are all ugly and square-chested? It is this imbalance which irritates me. I prefer game characters to have character, and not to be some doll-model-like stereotype. I find that rather boring to see games all filled with barbie-dolls. Call me conservative, but I don't think a society should be so over-sexualized with nudeness, boobs and whatnot everywhere you look. Let quality sell, and keep that lockerroom pics to your lockers and bedrooms. |
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8/25/09 10:04:17 AM#153
Was reading through the article but a couple things to point out. First in the Guild Wars category, Guild Wars also has a strong female lead role, while Eve (the bondage chick, as you so tactfully put it) isn't necessarily that lead role, she does play a major role in the gameplay and lore. Devona was the lead female role, followed closely by Cynn (both can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94_U8byqTBg ) This was the same with Lineage 2, which you neglected to mention. Also you did not mention the role between the female characters and their cover art. Yes the box art is there to entice, but not just men. Give men the clevage, but give women the cover as a sign of empowerment. Also if you are going to speak on this compare the role of women in the game to box art, look at holistically; not fixated on what facet. You did mention how EQ and EQ2 don't fixate on that anymore, but neglected GW2. As well leaving out many other games that push the limits even further with the gameplay, like APB. I think your article was thus very one sided, and it saddens me to think there is still this kind of gender bias on the side of journalists.
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8/25/09 10:05:32 AM#154
Originally posted by Kainis
I do. I'm a 50+ male and, at my age, you appreciate the female form in a different way than a drooling 20-something boy. Besides, mature males don't use the word 'boobies' -- we refer to them as breasts. Anyone over 30 still using adolescent words SHOULD be ridiculed. If you want to date attractive young women, you only have to do one thing -- turn 40! I don't know what it is -- maybe women see younger men as too immature -- but I have dated more women in their 20's as a middle-aged man than I ever did when I was their age. I think we treat women with more respect and that could be part of it also. So, you keep the word 'boobies' little boys and I'll keep the dates.
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8/25/09 10:42:57 AM#155
Originally posted by badgerer
wtf! that must be the replay ive ever wanted to see! badgerer, you made my day :D
Edit: this is for you www.youtube.com/watch |
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8/25/09 11:04:19 AM#156
hehemmehemmm
someone said "boobies" |
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8/25/09 12:03:32 PM#157
Since female gamers are increasing in number, the gaming industry should find ways to market to both genders. |
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egotrip
Novice Member
Joined: 12/24/08
Never fear i am here and if you don't like it kiss my rear |
8/25/09 12:04:46 PM#158
Let's face it they're everywhere we can't fight them so we might as well join them, just like the picture of the beautiful kitty i found
Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray* |
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8/25/09 12:13:35 PM#159
Originally posted by cfurlin
I do. I'm a 50+ male and, at my age, you appreciate the female form in a different way than a drooling 20-something boy. Besides, mature males don't use the word 'boobies' -- we refer to them as breasts. Anyone over 30 still using adolescent words SHOULD be ridiculed. If you want to date attractive young women, you only have to do one thing -- turn 40! I don't know what it is -- maybe women see younger men as too immature -- but I have dated more women in their 20's as a middle-aged man than I ever did when I was their age. I think we treat women with more respect and that could be part of it also. So, you keep the word 'boobies' little boys and I'll keep the dates.
Haha! Boobies....BOOBIES...boobs...boooooooooobbbbbbbbbssss... Lighten up dude. Your self-inflated image of yourself and your drivel about how 'mature' men don't use nicknames for parts of the female anotomy is idiotic. They do and they will continue to do so and I've seen it a thousand times. Oh, and as a note, I'm 35 and I still use nicknames for both the male and the female anotomy and your other point that 50+ something treat women with more respect is useless drivel aswell. Age got nothing to do with that at all. I drove a cab for a number of years and the most perverted, sick and rude people where people in their 50's. Really great when you're 20 something and get alot of horny 50 year old widows in the backseat, or that drunken 50 something man who tells you how useless you are sitting on your ass earning money and how you trying to fool him off his hardearned money. Right, so cabdrivers money aint hard-earned? You have to talk with the shit you drive from a to b so yeah, I think cabdrivers money is quite hard-earned. The polite people where the 20 somethings. Ask any cabdriver you can see. They will tell you the same story. The older people got, the more obnoxious they got when drunk, or even tipsy. Sometimes they didn't even have had a drink, they where just pissed off for some reason and decided to let the cabdriver get the heat. Once had a bank director, yes a man who make a few millions a year take a shit back in a cab. Ofcourse he denied paying for the cleanup so the cabdriver had to call the police. The rude moron had by the time the police got there taken a shower and denied the whole thing when the police was at the door. Luckilly for the cabdriver, his wife woke up and asked when he came home from the nightclub and what all the noise was. Only then he broke down and admitted the whole thing. This is a guy around 50 years old, so yeah. Age got nothing to do with your maturity, sense or politeness. On the contrary it seems to get worse the older you get. Got a few more stories about 50 something being an ass to cabbies, people around them and even authoritites but thats for another thread. |
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8/25/09 12:19:25 PM#160
Originally posted by slask777
When I said mature males, I meant mature in action and thinking, not age. But I can see where you would misunderstand since you are not one of them... |
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