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Originally posted by Joppari
That's not such a bad thing, usually people really hate things that are really successful, things that are not usually gets this reaction: "Meh. it's ok but I don't like it" They also hate things that were supposed to shine and didn't, judging from the majority of mmo players who have not followed the game or played it yet no one expects this to be much of anything other then being pretty. Therefore there's no disapointment to counter. WAR disapointed as it came with it's own fan base and an IP people were familiar with so that's hype already right there, then they went further with their marketing campaign. The game at launch had some really nifty new ideas, but the rest of their features were half assed and not so well implemented. Pretty much unforgivable nowadays. It's a mistake to concentrate on one or two neat things and put the rest of the game on a back burner. Maybe that's ok for single player games but not for mmo that should please a great number of people at once. (,,,)=^__^=(,,,)  |
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Originally posted by snowyjoe If you mean sub base as the measurement to beat WoW, I would not start in the states. As a market, US sucks, I mean it. Tax, cost of operation and sometimes even the law jades. European tax is the only tax system which is heavier. AND the US market size is only a very fraction of the size of China, Russia, India (not yet a major MMO market, so potential there). In terms of fanatism Japan and Korea rules. So games targetting Asian markets have a better chance to hit the multi-million mark. Blizz and WoW is wonderful, indeed, but the other american or european MMOs ever since are not doing well. On the other hand, the Korean MMOs and Japanese console games are still growing steadily. No one ever reaching the steady revenue from WoW yet. No one. If there is another one coming close in the future, its more likely to be one based in Asia. One thing you are very correct, the standard, the polishness, the wide appeal, the variety in-game, everything in Blizz is well done. A serious competitor will have a lot to learn from Blizz.
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This thread was made a few months ago, but it's still relevant and we now have alot more information on Aion and it's much closer to the release date, so rather than making another thread this is a bump :) BUMP |
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Originally posted by jadsta
I think your find that they the games u say havent been very successful were , Guildwars and Lineage 2 and City of heroes/villains did very well and still are. ----------------------------------------------- |
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Originally posted by xersent
I think your find that they the games u say havent been very successful were , Guildwars and Lineage 2 and City of heroes/villains did very well and still are. You are correct. Like any other business, if the mentioned games were not making money they would shut the doors/servers which will happen when a game is no longer successful. Using WOW numbers to measure another games success is like using Walmart numbers to measure the success of the local mom and pop store. It has to be true, i have internet links. |
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Sorry about that guys, I didn't realise they were successful at the time of the original post :/ |
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I think Aion will do well, but not be "the next big MMO." It will probably hold me off until TERA comes out. That's the one I'm really waiting for. Seeing their alpha footage of a boss fight a few months ago blew my socks off, and if it looks that good from alpha stages, and already blows away Aion's current state, then that's all the proof I need. I think TERA will be the next big MMO, but Aion will do okay, just not be a huge success in NA tho. |
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Originally posted by hidden1
I totally agree. Aion is just a filler for me till TERA comes. TERA is the only MMO that truly looks next gen. Everytime I see a video I am amazed at how good the game looks. I dont even see single player games with better graphics.
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Having just won Best Online MMO at Gamescom, I think allot more people are going to look seriously at playing this game than before Gamescom. I think it will be the next big mmo until something like Final Fanstasy 14 or All Points Bulletin comes along. |
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You say T.E.R.A was in alpha a few months ago , it looks like its in Closed Beta already.
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Zlayer77
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Joined: 5/19/09
Start worrying about other players in a game and dont just play |
Sadly Aion will not be the next big thing in the MMO market. Why? you ask... Its called the Abyss. Aions endgame is wastly diffrent then World of warcraft and WoW players will have a hard time making the transition. Geting griefed when they are taking down a raid Boss will make 50% of the WoW comuntity quit the game. Also the mayor focus in Aion is PvP and griefing is comonplace, this is also something WoW players are not used to. All in all This game is to diffrent then what the avrage western MMOer is used to. To become the next big MMO over here.
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Personally excited about Aion initially but not having any pure PvE servers means I'm out. The beauty of WoW is that PvP is completely optional and not taking part in it only locks you out of PvP stuff. Aion on paper looks to have PvE areas in the outer areas but the content in the middle is all PvP areas. I won't play a game that locks me out of PvE content by putting it in PvP areas. I played UO long enough to know that I don't like open world PvP ;) |
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Over in Asia they support anything so AION should do ok,but over here my gut feeling tells me this game will struggle big time after one year.I aam not sure how old AOC is right now prolly over a year,but i expect AION in NA to be along the same lines as AOC at the same time line. I think the PVP and eventual lack of content for Aion will lend more fans of NCSOFT to be playing GW2 rather than this game,i actually expect it.As of right now i would rate GW2 as twice the game AION is and i havn't even played GW2 yet and i am not a fan of NCSOFT what so ever,but i am nopt afraid to admit a decent product when i see it,AION barely scrathces the decent logo while GW2 looks to be a very good effort. |
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Personally I think no. Technically, Aion is as easy mode as it gets, exactly like WoW, so it has a chance to get even more fluff subscribers. Simple watered game almost to the point where there is no depth in character architecture, that it will appeal to non mmorpg players. "Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin |
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Don't get the wrong idea though, I don't think there's any way Aion will get even close to WoW's numbers. Maybe 100k-200k in the west.
What exactly are you basing your comment "GW2 is twice the game Aion is" on? I would seriously like to know because I've researched everything I can find about GW2 and there just isn't enough information available to make a judgment call like this, unless I'm missing something, and if I am, I would like to know what it is. Bioware did not make Knights of the old Republic 2. |
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Zlayer77
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Joined: 5/19/09
Start worrying about other players in a game and dont just play |
Originally posted by Dameonk
I play EvE so im well aware that getting jumped is just part of the game. But the avrage WoW player is not and will cry griefing and complain about constant PvP for spawns. I get the feeling most WoWers just want to go up against the Computer. Aion will be mush more challenging as you will constantly be fighting against other people. And getting owned by other players and stopd from getting that gear they want will not sitt will with most X wowers....
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Originally posted by solareus
Aren't you one of the ones going gaga over Champions Online? Sure you didn't get confused about which game you were referring to? >_> |
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Originally posted by Dameonk
Don't pay attention to Wizardry, he is a regular Aion troll. You are right there is nothing to base his comparison with Guild Wars with. It's the same company producing both games and GW won't be out until 2011. |
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I'd like to leave my opinion on Aion and games like Aion. I have a big problem with these asian mmos. The characters all have the same look to them. They all look like they just came out of a final fantasy cinematic, they are all gorgeous, perfect to the last detail, and they seem to have no soul, no character. They seem to me empty of emotion and every trait that I associate with humanity. This is why i never got into asian mmos and prefer the western ones. Playing a character like the ones in Aion would feel to me like playing a manequin from a clothing store. To the Aion lovers, don't feel Im flaming your game cause Im not, Im sure the game is good, its a ncsoft game afterall, I just cant get past this character style. On the other hand, I feel that Ncsoft came close in guild wars, but not enough to completely draw me in.
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Originally posted by Toquio3
You're not alone. While the graphics are pretty nice in my opinion I'm not a huge fan of the art direction in this game. I really enjoy the game and I'm going to be playing it but I certainly get what you're saying. For me, the art direction is not a real strong point of this game but that's a personal preference and I enjoy the gameplay, lore, etc. enough to overlook that. On a bright note, least it didn't make me go, "Wtf is this shit?" like WoW did when I first tried it. I was so turned off by the artwork I almost stopped playing the game. Glad I didn't because regardless what some may say I found WoW to be an enjoyable game. I do miss gnomes though :( |
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Originally posted by Wickedjelly I agree. But say what you want about wow, the art style is consistent with the warcraft games. Nothing to point out there. But like you, i was also turned off by its graphics in the beginning. I just wish I could get past the Aion's style, it looks like its a really cool game.
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I`ve been very sceptical about new MMOs in the last few years but after researching on AION I must say that it has all the needed elements to be the next huge MMO. It is made for the masses, stayed clear of traps and misstakes that so many companies made and I predict subs in millions. |
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I think Aion has everything in place to be a great game. Having said that if you do not like PVP at all or are the type of player that wants to do it all alone, this will not be the game for you. Yes you can hit max level doing PVE, but to reap the best rewards means you must hit the abyss. That means you will be doing PVP as well. Some of the instances require pvp and some of the instances are contested and the other faction can come in and you will have to fight to stay there. I happen to like the blend myself. Alot of other players will not. If you want to hold hands with the enemie this is not the game. Soloing in the abyss is a dangerous thing to do but you can do it until a group of players see's you and you will get whacked. Rifting into the PVE areas will piss some players off as well. I loved it and all we had to do was form an alliance and fight back kill them and we went on about our business. The game is gorgeous and the grind was a joke. No the game will not be a WOW killer. Aion is polished, and lag free for me and it was alot better then AOC or Warhammer. I see alot of gamers hyping the game but not the big game houses or sites. Unlike the other two mentioned. Only time will tell and I would give it a try before I wrote it off of my list of games. |
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Originally posted by solareus
You are misinformed Solareus. AION is harder than Lotro, CO, WAR, AOC, VG and WOW when we talk about PvE, group content and PvP difficult. Not just an opinion, you can confirm this playing the game (beyond tutorial) or asking to its players. ... |
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Originally posted by xersent
Damn, I wish I could read Korean... gots no clue what it says. But the artstyle, though asian, looks pretty badass :)) |
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