Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by Wookiee6648
Blah the game will suck, AoC (i know different game and company but only one i know is for console and PC) plays ten times worse on console than it does on the PC.
It is more fun for MMO's to be on the PC (as most games) IMO. So why would CCP kick themselves in the nutz to make a stooooopid console game, when console games blow (well the new tiger woods golf was pretty fun but still) and are not as fun or last as long even tho it will be an mmo.
Looking at most the games coming out on console, the only reason companies make console games is for a cheap quick buck (like blizzard and the way they are going). Gaming companies need to get away from making crappy console game like Dust 514 and make them for PC. Only simple games like golf, short shooter games like Duck Hunt or something are fun on console.
  So to recap BLAH!  on CCP

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25M of Halo serie owners disagree with you...

It's getting repetitive :-/

 

Thing is though, Halo is a larger internationally recognized established franchise which relied on very specific stylistic elements. EVE's franchise is still very niche and going from the video... it doesnt seem to have anything close to the simplistic yet easily marketable stylistic approach that Halo has.  Therefore Halo becomes a moot example. The casual console gamers this title probably targets have most likely never either A) heard of EVE or B) Never even picked it up as it would be to "complicated" or "boring" for them. For CCP this will be a tough sell.

So we could agree on  that they are not, that we think they are not, doing this for some quick buck then?

Originally posted by Malcanis

Honestly, the amount of butthurt over this is beyond ludicrous and heading deep into the laughable. People are acting like a spoilt only child throwing a tantrum when his mother tells him he's going to have a little brother. ME! ME! ME! I'M THE ONLY ONE YOU LOVE! MEEEEEEEEE!

It's ridiculous to compare Dust to NGE. Are eve players going to be forced into a few pre-defined classes? Has the industry side been simplified out of existence? Are new players going to be able to pilot capital ships straight away? No.

If you dont want to play a console FPS, you dont have to. You put out a contract to a bunch of dustbunny mercs and hire them to do it for you. Just like players who dont like flying capital ships (or just plain can't fly one) can still belong to a spaceholding alliance right now.

Bluntly, EvE players only stand to gain from Dust. CCP have made a long term commitment to maintaining and extending the EvE-verse. It's just that it won't be only about spaceships now. That's great IMO. EvE has huge, unprecedented breadth; now it stands to gain depth as well.

Every damb time CCP make a radical change or addition to EvE we see the same stupid mantra "THIS IS CCP'S NGE, EVE IS DYING". I've seen it at least 4 times in 3 years. No it aint.

 

I didn't get any candy this weekend and you suck donkeys ass, f**k you!

I agree with you.

Originally posted by Wookiee6648

Blah the game will suck, AoC (i know different game and company but only one i know is for console and PC) plays ten times worse on console than it does on the PC.

It is more fun for MMO's to be on the PC (as most games) IMO. So why would CCP kick themselves in the nutz to make a stooooopid console game, when console games blow (well the new tiger woods golf was pretty fun but still) and are not as fun or last as long even tho it will be an mmo.

Looking at most the games coming out on console, the only reason companies make console games is for a cheap quick buck (like blizzard and the way they are going). Gaming companies need to get away from making crappy console game like Dust 514 and make them for PC. Only simple games like golf, short shooter games like Duck Hunt or something are fun on console.

  So to recap BLAH!  on CCP

AoC is only on the PC right now.  So I have no idea how you know it runs terribly on the console, when it does not exist.

Blizzard isnsofar as I am aware isn't planning ANY console releases.

The only MMO that I am aware of that is on both the PC and console, is Final Fantasy 11.  And it does it wonderfully, the game has not changed on account of it, only grown.

Originally posted by TsukieU

Originally posted by Wookiee6648

Blah the game will suck, AoC (i know different game and company but only one i know is for console and PC) plays ten times worse on console than it does on the PC.

It is more fun for MMO's to be on the PC (as most games) IMO. So why would CCP kick themselves in the nutz to make a stooooopid console game, when console games blow (well the new tiger woods golf was pretty fun but still) and are not as fun or last as long even tho it will be an mmo.

Looking at most the games coming out on console, the only reason companies make console games is for a cheap quick buck (like blizzard and the way they are going). Gaming companies need to get away from making crappy console game like Dust 514 and make them for PC. Only simple games like golf, short shooter games like Duck Hunt or something are fun on console.

  So to recap BLAH!  on CCP

 

 

AoC is only on the PC right now.  So I have no idea how you know it runs terribly on the console, when it does not exist.

 

Blizzard isnsofar as I am aware isn't planning ANY console releases.

 

The only MMO that I am aware of that is on both the PC and console, is Final Fantasy 11.  And it does it wonderfully, the game has not changed on account of it, only grown.

Thats is very true, however, the FULL game is playable on both the console and the PC.

CCP promised us that one day we might get Ambulation, Atmospheric Flight, Planetary Interaction, RTS and maybe even a groundgame. Now this groundgame is going to console only, but on the planets of EVE Online, influencing EVE Online.

They held a carrot on a stick, and I was prepared to wait years for the carrot, but they gave the carrot to console players.

I don't care what anyone else says, for me it is over, I cancelled both my subs, still got 3 months on my main. I will keep training my skills on my main in the hope something changes, but I doubt it.

SOE did alot of horrible things, but at least they incorporated Jump to Lightspeed into the main game.

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Originally posted by CyberWiz

They held a carrot on a stick, and I was prepared to wait years for the carrot, but they gave the carrot to console players. 

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They hold the carrot and you blame them for being a donkey? :)

They never promised atmospheric flight, ground combat or planetary interaction implemented in EVE. That is the donkey in you making you to think so and the same goes for your rage over Dust.

Originally posted by CyberWiz

Originally posted by JDGalis

..I didnt hear a word about paid subs

 

Well, it will be an mmofps, so that was an assumption of mine.

 

Seems like a lot of things of yours are assumptions. I mean jesus, you already put Eve Pre-Dust514

Can you at least have some faith in CCP? Even if Dust514 does affect the soveignty, that can be an amazing thing! Think of their becoming top clans or "mercenaries" who play Dust514, and hiring them and becoming affiliated with them and forming alliances would add to the meta gaming and politics already in Eve.

I only see this as a win / win situation.

Originally posted by CyberWiz

DUST514, will only be playable on consoles, will influence sovereignty and will require a subscription.

So unless you are willing to get another account ( I normally already have 2 EVE accounts, I really don't want a third ) AND get a console, AND in my case, a new LCD TV / Monitor ( so I can attach the XBOX and the PC on the same LCD TV / Monitor ) you will not able to play this.

I predict that, unless CCP integrates DUST514 in the current EVE Online connected by WIS, allowing EVE players to play DUST514 with their current subscription on the PC ( but with a new character ), the last bastion of mmorpg vision will crumble, and CCP will have pulled their very own NGE.

 

I'm good on this; I have a 17" laptop for EVE, an Xbox 360 with a 19" HDTV, already have my Xbox Live Subscription...

And we don't know enough about it all to even think we may NEED a new character. You may just travel from planet to planet, land your ship, and go FPS.

And I have a second 17" LCD TV, with component cable hookups, if I want to play EVE Online on my TV, and have Dust514 on.

I don't think it's going to be as much of a problem honestly. It will probably require an install on your Xbox 360 though...so expect to pay $60 for a new game. The idea sounds awesome to me; I'm willing to pay for it.

The way they could ruin this for me though; is by making it 'Just another FPS'. I want to see the CCP, or EVE Online impact on the game...hell, I would love to be able to look up and see ships in orbit, in real time with what's going on in EVE Online. Hell, I'd love some new modules for my ships for orbital bombardment on motherships...have your corporation/alliance on the ground, while you hold your mothership above, bombarding the planet to help them; or offering support vehicles.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by CyberWiz

They held a carrot on a stick, and I was prepared to wait years for the carrot, but they gave the carrot to console players. 

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They hold the carrot and you blame them for being a donkey? :)

They never promised atmospheric flight, ground combat or planetary interaction implemented in EVE. That is the donkey in you making you to think so and the same goes for your rage over Dust.

 

 

 

They did not promise ( my mistake ), they lead us to believe it might be possible one day, don't make me look up all the quotes from the Devs! They even have shown us a video with atmospheric flight with EVE ships, but you will probably also say that video does not exist.

I guess I was wrong and I am a donkey for following the carrot, but I won't be a donkey anymore :p I made my conclusions, so unless something changes during the next three months, I am done with it.

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Originally posted by CyberWiz

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Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by CyberWiz

They held a carrot on a stick, and I was prepared to wait years for the carrot, but they gave the carrot to console players. 

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They hold the carrot and you blame them for being a donkey? :)
They never promised atmospheric flight, ground combat or planetary interaction implemented in EVE. That is the donkey in you making you to think so and the same goes for your rage over Dust.
 
 
 

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They did not promise ( my mistake ), they lead us to believe it might be possible one day, don't make me look up all the quotes from the Devs! They even have shown us a video with atmospheric flight with EVE ships, but you will probably also say that video does not exist.
I guess I was wrong and I am a donkey for following the carrot, but I won't be a donkey anymore :p I made my conclusions, so unless something changes during the next three months, I am done with it.
 

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hmm, this reminds me of a post about the announced WOW movie

from here
http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/090721.html

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Cautionary Note Regarding Forward-looking Statements: Information in this press release that involves Blizzard Entertainment’s expectations, plans, intentions or strategies regarding the future are forward-looking statements that are not facts and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Blizzard Entertainment generally uses words such as "outlook," "will," "could," "would," "might," "remains," "to be," "plans," "believes," "may," "expects," "intends," "anticipates," "estimate," future," "plan," "positioned," "potential," "project," "remain," "scheduled," "set to," "subject to," "upcoming" and similar expressions to help identify forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause Blizzard Entertainment’s actual future results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements set forth in this release include, but are not limited to, sales levels of Blizzard Entertainment’s titles, shifts in consumer spending trends, the impact of the current macroeconomic environment, the seasonal and cyclical nature of the interactive game market, Blizzard Entertainment’s ability to predict consumer preferences among competing hardware platforms (including next-generation hardware), declines in software pricing, product returns and price protection, product delays, retail acceptance of Blizzard Entertainment’s products, adoption rate and availability of new hardware and related software, industry competition, rapid changes in technology and industry standards, protection of proprietary rights, litigation against Blizzard Entertainment, maintenance of relationships with key personnel, customers, vendors and third-party developers, domestic and international economic, financial and political conditions and policies, foreign exchange rates, integration of recent acquisitions and the identification of suitable future acquisition opportunities, Activision Blizzard’s success in integrating the operations of Activision Publishing and Vivendi Games in a timely manner, or at all, and the combined company’s ability to realize the anticipated benefits and synergies of the transaction to the extent, or in the timeframe, anticipated, and the other factors identified in Activision Blizzard’s most recent annual report on Form 10-K and any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The forward-looking statements in this release are based upon information available to Blizzard Entertainment and Activision Blizzard as of the date of this release, and neither Blizzard Entertainment nor Activision Blizzard assumes any obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements believed to be true when made may ultimately prove to be incorrect. These statements are not guarantees of the future performance of Blizzard Entertainment or Activision Blizzard and are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors, some of which are beyond its control and may cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.

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it seems that CCP needs to post block of legaleze about forward looking statments to protect themselves from idiots as well.

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Originally posted by nurgles

hmm, this reminds me of a post about the announced WOW movie

from here
http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/090721.html

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Cautionary Note Regarding Forward-looking Statements: Information in this press release that involves Blizzard Entertainment’s expectations, plans, intentions or strategies regarding the future are forward-looking statements that are not facts and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Blizzard Entertainment generally uses words such as "outlook," "will," "could," "would," "might," "remains," "to be," "plans," "believes," "may," "expects," "intends," "anticipates," "estimate," future," "plan," "positioned," "potential," "project," "remain," "scheduled," "set to," "subject to," "upcoming" and similar expressions to help identify forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause Blizzard Entertainment’s actual future results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements set forth in this release include, but are not limited to, sales levels of Blizzard Entertainment’s titles, shifts in consumer spending trends, the impact of the current macroeconomic environment, the seasonal and cyclical nature of the interactive game market, Blizzard Entertainment’s ability to predict consumer preferences among competing hardware platforms (including next-generation hardware), declines in software pricing, product returns and price protection, product delays, retail acceptance of Blizzard Entertainment’s products, adoption rate and availability of new hardware and related software, industry competition, rapid changes in technology and industry standards, protection of proprietary rights, litigation against Blizzard Entertainment, maintenance of relationships with key personnel, customers, vendors and third-party developers, domestic and international economic, financial and political conditions and policies, foreign exchange rates, integration of recent acquisitions and the identification of suitable future acquisition opportunities, Activision Blizzard’s success in integrating the operations of Activision Publishing and Vivendi Games in a timely manner, or at all, and the combined company’s ability to realize the anticipated benefits and synergies of the transaction to the extent, or in the timeframe, anticipated, and the other factors identified in Activision Blizzard’s most recent annual report on Form 10-K and any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. The forward-looking statements in this release are based upon information available to Blizzard Entertainment and Activision Blizzard as of the date of this release, and neither Blizzard Entertainment nor Activision Blizzard assumes any obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements believed to be true when made may ultimately prove to be incorrect. These statements are not guarantees of the future performance of Blizzard Entertainment or Activision Blizzard and are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors, some of which are beyond its control and may cause actual results to differ materially from current expectations.

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it seems that CCP needs to post block of legaleze about forward looking statments to protect themselves from idiots as well.

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Blizzard proved they are teh best again. This hurts :-(