And risky I think, with as big of a money maker as WoW is this is far from a "safe" expansion, some people grow fond of certain zones the've spent time in, the change could be great or terrible. I've never been a huge WoW fan, I just resubbed last week and found out about the expansion a few days ago from a leak online. I have to say I'm impressed ( WoW haters don't kill me ) But this expansion is essentially WoW2.0 , and offhand I cannot think of a bigger expansion to an mmorpg? Either way I'm "Gasp " hyped :) Can anyone think of a larger "expansion" then Cataclysm? Of course meaning IF  they actually add everything.

IMO this expansion is going to be huge. 

Seems like a very safe, no-risk type of expansion to me. I'm going to have to make a Worgen when it comes out. Overall I expect zone changes to be a considerable improvement both in looks as well as questing. Also they're not adding any new classes which would have caused additional balancing head-aches.

Originally posted by Shadowhand

And risky I think, with as big of a money maker as WoW is this is far from a "safe" expansion, some people grow fond of certain zones the've spent time in, the change could be great or terrible. I've never been a huge WoW fan, I just resubbed last week and found out about the expansion a few days ago from a leak online. I have to say I'm impressed ( WoW haters don't kill me ) But this expansion is essentially WoW2.0 , and offhand I cannot think of a bigger expansion to an mmorpg? Either way I'm "Gasp " hyped :) Can anyone think of a larger "expansion" then Cataclysm? Of course meaning IF  they actually add everything.

Still reading and still being surprised.

Wow 2.0 and indeed gasp is the word that comes to mind.

These next 2 days (and the following 2 years) must be a nightmare for WOW haters.

Originally posted by Shadowhand

And risky I think, with as big of a money maker as WoW is this is far from a "safe" expansion, some people grow fond of certain zones the've spent time in, the change could be great or terrible. I've never been a huge WoW fan, I just resubbed last week and found out about the expansion a few days ago from a leak online. I have to say I'm impressed ( WoW haters don't kill me ) But this expansion is essentially WoW2.0 , and offhand I cannot think of a bigger expansion to an mmorpg? Either way I'm "Gasp " hyped :) Can anyone think of a larger "expansion" then Cataclysm? Of course meaning IF  they actually add everything.

As long as Tanaris is safe...I'll be fine with this expansion.     I know in the vid preview they show Shimming Flats becoming a lush jungle, but I hope that doesn't mean Tanaris will become a jungle as well.  

Wow really? :) No risk/very safe? What would you have considered a risky step for a new WoW expansion thats within the technological limits of current mmo's? <-----Directed at Axxar btw =)

Something that shakes up the game I suppose, rather than simply improving and adding to what is. Re-using existing areas is also much quicker and cheaper than having to create new zones for all the new content. Blizzard are being very practical here. I don't think you have to worry about this expansion not being well-received. Seems Blizzard has everything well under control from where I'm sitting.

Well I think the game is being fairly shaken up as is by improving/adding on to what it already is ( expansion ), and they are adding new zones, I Guess we'll never change each other's mind here :) But considering mmorpg expansions of late and the past I don't see how this is being practical/safe by any means. But I do agree it's probably going to be well recieved :)

You seem surprisingly convinced that it'll be well-received, considering how big a risk you feel Blizzard is taking.

Read my first post again, I think Blizzard chose a risky course of altering the entire game ( as I said especially on a money maker such as WoW ) as people get attached to certain zones ect ect, and it seemed like a risky path rather than just adding a new zone ect thats common with mmorpgs, It just happens the outcome of choice appears to be a good one and I think it will be well recieved. I don't think its strange that I find a risky choice also being a well recieved one.

biggest expansion how?

raise level cap

allow diff races to play other classes

..etc..etc..

its all re-hashed shit that your getting, don't kid yourself

Eh, if you like WoW, it will be well-received.  Considering they made the game easy to work with, they can do something as big as this and have no problem.  It's what separates Blizzard as a company from the others.  It's not like it's even original, when you look at Anet's story of the dragons in GW2 over a year ago.  "A dragon legend rises from the oceans.."  Where did we hear that before? cough-legendoforr-cough.  Thing is, they are smart.  It's plenty enough till they get started on the real game, Blizzard's next big mmo. 

But easy, fanbois, on the "revolutionary" claims.  This was NOT hard for them to do.  all they are doing is refreshing the war between the horde and the alliance, which has been going for, what, 5 years, now?  It isn't Rocket science to re-skin Taurens and gnomes into Wolf-whatevers and Goblins.  It'll be good, it'll make money, but please, enough with declarations of WoW dominance into the next century.  Really.

Originally posted by haggus71

But easy, fanbois, on the "revolutionary" claims.  This was NOT hard for them to do.  all they are doing is refreshing the war between the horde and the alliance, which has been going for, what, 5 years, now?  It isn't Rocket science to re-skin Taurens and gnomes into Wolf-whatevers and Goblins.  It'll be good, it'll make money, but please, enough with declarations of WoW dominance into the next century.  Really.

..but...but... but.... this is the supposed to be the biggest expansion ever, because its a WOW expansion.... :(

haha no doubt man, you said it best with "It isn't Rocket science to re-skin Taurens and gnomes into Wolf-whatevers and Goblins"

they could indeed skin 100 new races in less then a month

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

biggest expansion how?

raise level cap

allow diff races to play other classes

..etc..etc..

its all re-hashed shit that your getting, don't kid yourself

Well, it's certainly big in terms of content that had to be created. Yes, it's using old locations, but they're old locations in name only. the two original continents basically had to be rebuilt to accomadate both flying mounts and the drastic landscape changes. People saying they're re-using old content are pretty narrowminded to what is actually going on here.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Shadowhand

And risky I think, with as big of a money maker as WoW is this is far from a "safe" expansion, some people grow fond of certain zones the've spent time in, the change could be great or terrible. I've never been a huge WoW fan, I just resubbed last week and found out about the expansion a few days ago from a leak online. I have to say I'm impressed ( WoW haters don't kill me ) But this expansion is essentially WoW2.0 , and offhand I cannot think of a bigger expansion to an mmorpg? Either way I'm "Gasp " hyped :) Can anyone think of a larger "expansion" then Cataclysm? Of course meaning IF  they actually add everything.

 

Still reading and still being surprised.

Wow 2.0 and indeed gasp is the word that comes to mind.

These next 2 days (and the following 2 years) must be a nightmare for WOW haters.

 

What do you mean?  This is GREAT news!

Now maybe people will actually play the game they love so much and LEAVE THE REST ALONE.

Champions does not need to be "WoW in Spandex" nor does STO need to be "Wow in Space".

For the record, I do not hate Wow. I do however hate all the people that play WoW and try to turn every other game into it.

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

biggest expansion how?

raise level cap

allow diff races to play other classes

..etc..etc..

its all re-hashed shit that your getting, don't kid yourself

 

Well, it's certainly big in terms of content that had to be created. Yes, it's using old locations, but they're old locations in name only. the two original continents basically had to be rebuilt to accomadate both flying mounts and the drastic landscape changes. People saying they're re-using old content are pretty narrowminded to what is actually going on here.

honestly, its not that big of a deal what they're doing here, don't fool yourself into thinking its more then what it is

the "New Frontiers" free expansion in DAOC was far larger and more difficult then what blizzard is doing with this expansion, you are all mindless drones controlled by strings thanks to blizzard/wow ... and i feel bad for you all

yet, you'll defend this game's honor like its your mother/sister/wife/girlfriend/imaginary friend being harassed in the worst ways, its funny

Originally posted by haggus71

Eh, if you like WoW, it will be well-received.  Considering they made the game easy to work with, they can do something as big as this and have no problem.  It's what separates Blizzard as a company from the others.  It's not like it's even original, when you look at Anet's story of the dragons in GW2 over a year ago.  "A dragon legend rises from the oceans.."  Where did we hear that before? cough-legendoforr-cough.  Thing is, they are smart.  It's plenty enough till they get started on the real game, Blizzard's next big mmo. 

But easy, fanbois, on the "revolutionary" claims.  This was NOT hard for them to do.  all they are doing is refreshing the war between the horde and the alliance, which has been going for, what, 5 years, now?  It isn't Rocket science to re-skin Taurens and gnomes into Wolf-whatevers and Goblins.  It'll be good, it'll make money, but please, enough with declarations of WoW dominance into the next century.  Really.

Dude, they  redesigned the complete world of old Azeroth, inclusive dungeons, raid content, extra Battlegrounds andPvP zones

And first read about the changes before posting please.

I know it takes about an hour to read upon what makes this ... WOW 2 actually.

But do that first and then come back.

Originally posted by Axxar

You seem surprisingly convinced that it'll be well-received, considering how big a risk you feel Blizzard is taking.

Yeah what if a lot of players don't like the fact that a bunch of stuff is changing? What would blizz do if half their subs left because they didn't like what they done to the game?   Do you think blizz would keep it or change it back and scrap some of the expansion?

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by haggus71

Eh, if you like WoW, it will be well-received.  Considering they made the game easy to work with, they can do something as big as this and have no problem.  It's what separates Blizzard as a company from the others.  It's not like it's even original, when you look at Anet's story of the dragons in GW2 over a year ago.  "A dragon legend rises from the oceans.."  Where did we hear that before? cough-legendoforr-cough.  Thing is, they are smart.  It's plenty enough till they get started on the real game, Blizzard's next big mmo. 

But easy, fanbois, on the "revolutionary" claims.  This was NOT hard for them to do.  all they are doing is refreshing the war between the horde and the alliance, which has been going for, what, 5 years, now?  It isn't Rocket science to re-skin Taurens and gnomes into Wolf-whatevers and Goblins.  It'll be good, it'll make money, but please, enough with declarations of WoW dominance into the next century.  Really.

 

Dude, they  redesigned the complete world of old Azeroth, inclusive dungeons, raid content, extra Battlegrounds andPvP zones

And first read about the changes before posting please.

I know it takes about an hour to read upon what makes this ... WOW 2 actually.

But do that first and then come back.

 

 

Is it hard to play WoW with those pom-poms on your hands?

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by haggus71

Eh, if you like WoW, it will be well-received.  Considering they made the game easy to work with, they can do something as big as this and have no problem.  It's what separates Blizzard as a company from the others.  It's not like it's even original, when you look at Anet's story of the dragons in GW2 over a year ago.  "A dragon legend rises from the oceans.."  Where did we hear that before? cough-legendoforr-cough.  Thing is, they are smart.  It's plenty enough till they get started on the real game, Blizzard's next big mmo. 

But easy, fanbois, on the "revolutionary" claims.  This was NOT hard for them to do.  all they are doing is refreshing the war between the horde and the alliance, which has been going for, what, 5 years, now?  It isn't Rocket science to re-skin Taurens and gnomes into Wolf-whatevers and Goblins.  It'll be good, it'll make money, but please, enough with declarations of WoW dominance into the next century.  Really.

 

Dude, they  redesigned the complete world of old Azeroth, inclusive dungeons, raid content, extra Battlegrounds andPvP zones

And first read about the changes before posting please.

I know it takes about an hour to read upon what makes this ... WOW 2 actually.

But do that first and then come back.

 

 

you mean

modified old textures, terrains added a few new things, expanded and filled in the gaps and called it hard work?

Yeah I agree here, Blizz has a ton of money other companies do not have and those companies can not afford to pump out expansions with the amount of content and as quickly due to their company being smaller in size and with financial limitations. I'm sure it's not hard for blizz to create features for the expansion because of their financial backup. But I'm not looking at how hard a company worked for their expansion or how it compares to another companies expansion taking financial limits into concern and giving them a handicap to judge them both by, I'm looking at the end result, the expansion itself. People are quick to shoot it down, but can anyone name an expansion of an mmorpg that has surpassed what they claim to be attempting? Thats one of the advantages of playing an mmo developed by a company with extreme financial backing.

For the record I hated WoW at launch, considering myself a hardcore PVPer I've played every PVP game on the marked, most recently DF, But I'm not blinded by WoW hate either, I'm just giving credit where I think credit is due. I hear people shooting down the new races, claiming its a tauren with a different skin, I suppose its different when other companies add a new race to their mmo? 

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

biggest expansion how?

raise level cap

allow diff races to play other classes

..etc..etc..

its all re-hashed shit that your getting, don't kid yourself

 

Well, it's certainly big in terms of content that had to be created. Yes, it's using old locations, but they're old locations in name only. the two original continents basically had to be rebuilt to accomadate both flying mounts and the drastic landscape changes. People saying they're re-using old content are pretty narrowminded to what is actually going on here.

 

honestly, its not that big of a deal what they're doing here, don't fool yourself into thinking its more then what it is

the "New Frontiers" free expansion in DAOC was far larger and more difficult then what blizzard is doing with this expansion, you are all mindless drones controlled by strings thanks to blizzard/wow ... and i feel bad for you all

 

yet, you'll defend this game's honor like its your mother/sister/wife/girlfriend/imaginary friend being harassed in the worst ways, its funny

Relax, cupcake. What I like or dislike will not affect you one bit, I assure you.

Plus, unlike some here apparently, I'm physically able to keep an open mind without it exploding.

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

Dude, they  redesigned the complete world of old Azeroth, inclusive dungeons, raid content, extra Battlegrounds andPvP zones

And first read about the changes before posting please.

I know it takes about an hour to read upon what makes this ... WOW 2 actually.

But do that first and then come back.

 

 

 

you mean

modified old textures, terrains added a few new things, expanded and filled in the gaps and called it hard work?

You mean creating a new 3D envirnmont that can be flown over in full 3D without zoning and redo the Azeroth as we know it.

That's the basis for every mmorpg. That's the basis of the world you play in. Be it in the sky IN the water and on land....

That's the hardest work for any mmorpg. That's what lacks in the competition.

Blizzard just relaunched it ALL with a known Lore setting.

Magnificent move.

There you go with your "same old" argument you had prepared 5 hours ago ....:))) A pity Blizzard changed the record isn't it :))

LOL

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

biggest expansion how?

raise level cap

allow diff races to play other classes

..etc..etc..

its all re-hashed shit that your getting, don't kid yourself

 

Well, it's certainly big in terms of content that had to be created. Yes, it's using old locations, but they're old locations in name only. the two original continents basically had to be rebuilt to accomadate both flying mounts and the drastic landscape changes. People saying they're re-using old content are pretty narrowminded to what is actually going on here.

 

honestly, its not that big of a deal what they're doing here, don't fool yourself into thinking its more then what it is

the "New Frontiers" free expansion in DAOC was far larger and more difficult then what blizzard is doing with this expansion, you are all mindless drones controlled by strings thanks to blizzard/wow ... and i feel bad for you all

 

yet, you'll defend this game's honor like its your mother/sister/wife/girlfriend/imaginary friend being harassed in the worst ways, its funny

Relax, cupcake. What I like or dislike will not affect you one bit, I assure you.

Plus, unlike some here apparently, I'm physically able to keep an open mind without it exploding.

listen princess, i know it won't.. i could give a care less about the game, i'm simply being a troll , though what i say holds truth to 95% of WoW players

and the expansion isn't that big, you guys are making it out to be alot more then what it actually is

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by jonrd463

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

biggest expansion how?

raise level cap

allow diff races to play other classes

..etc..etc..

its all re-hashed shit that your getting, don't kid yourself

 

Well, it's certainly big in terms of content that had to be created. Yes, it's using old locations, but they're old locations in name only. the two original continents basically had to be rebuilt to accomadate both flying mounts and the drastic landscape changes. People saying they're re-using old content are pretty narrowminded to what is actually going on here.

 

honestly, its not that big of a deal what they're doing here, don't fool yourself into thinking its more then what it is

the "New Frontiers" free expansion in DAOC was far larger and more difficult then what blizzard is doing with this expansion, you are all mindless drones controlled by strings thanks to blizzard/wow ... and i feel bad for you all

 

yet, you'll defend this game's honor like its your mother/sister/wife/girlfriend/imaginary friend being harassed in the worst ways, its funny

Relax, cupcake. What I like or dislike will not affect you one bit, I assure you.

Plus, unlike some here apparently, I'm physically able to keep an open mind without it exploding.

Yeah I get the feeling no matter what Blizzard will add in this expansion or future expansion, the haters and closed minded will hate it simply because it's WoW :)