Originally posted by Zorndorf

Wow haters in this thread: rejoice.

WOW 2 was born on August 21 2009.

Another 5 years of nightmares and personal frustrations for you guys. That must be fun.

I am sorry :))) but even on mmorpg.com the editors will admit this massive relaunch was never expected.

Courage (you'll need it).

 

Not really but hay if it makes you feel better by all means keep shouting that "song and dance".

Originally posted by coffee

wow that makes no sense.. why would anyone make undead hunters, tauren paladins/priests, and dwarf shamans even possible. Not to mention that goblins get to be hunters while gnomes can not? WTF

Originally posted by Home15

Not going to come back personaly.

This expansion is meh for me.

Agreed. There is as much bad as good.

Originally posted by CuddlyBunny

wow that makes no sense.. why would anyone make undead hunters, tauren paladins/priests, and dwarf shamans even possible. Not to mention that goblins get to be hunters while gnomes can not? WTF

Human hunters make sense; so undead hunters (which are basically just dead human hunters) make as much sense; though I'd be interested to see if undead hunters can feed bits of themselves to their pets in times of dire need.

Dwarf shamans make sense too; there's already the wildhammer clan of dwarves that are shamanistic and given that the dwarves evolved from the earthen (as seen in WotLK) it's easy to see them as a shamanistic "tied-to-the-earth" sort of race.

From what I hear, tauren paladins and priests don't get their power from "the light", but rather through the worship of a sun god who bestows the same sort of abilities on them as traditional paladin/priests get. It's a bit of a stretch for me, 'cos I don't know much about the tauren belief system.

Goblin Hunters; well the goblins have always been described as being deceptively strong and physical considering their size whereas the gnomes have always been more grounded in the cerebral/magical arts. It's far more of a stretch for me to consider goblins as mages and warlocks rather than as hunters.

Originally posted by left4shaman

Players especailly old players who quit are gonna resub just to see how their old home world has changed and just for that alone is gonna bring many many subs back to WoW.

Heh, sorry bud but I won't be resubbing.

I quit after TBC and haven't looked back.

Originally posted by Drakkhen

Originally posted by left4shaman

Players especailly old players who quit are gonna resub just to see how their old home world has changed and just for that alone is gonna bring many many subs back to WoW.

 

Heh, sorry bud but I won't be resubbing.

I quit after TBC and haven't looked back.

Clearly not read the info at all. It is not a question of looking or coming back.

This is WOW 2 and you will walk around in another Azeroth...

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Drakkhen

Originally posted by left4shaman

Players especailly old players who quit are gonna resub just to see how their old home world has changed and just for that alone is gonna bring many many subs back to WoW.

 

Heh, sorry bud but I won't be resubbing.

I quit after TBC and haven't looked back.

 

Clearly not read the info at all. It is not a question of looking or coming back.

This is WOW 2 and you will walk around in another Azeroth...

WOW 2 would be a new skill system, less auto targeting, new graphics engine(not just a fresh coat of paint. cough-Lich-cough)...

Be excited.  Your game got a refresh, and they are killing the "love-fest" that sprouted between Horde and Alliance.  It's not revolutionary, and it's NOT WoW2.  There won't be a WoW 2.  deal.

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

Clearly not read the info at all. It is not a question of looking or coming back.

This is WOW 2 and you will walk around in another Azeroth...

But it will still be the same game.

This expansion mostly looks like a huge pallete swap.

Only reason they didn't open ALL the classes to ALL the races - so they can do that final step in the next expansion?

How is this expansion any less generic than the previous two released?

Phasing is a new tier of gameplay for me, looking forward Cataclysm, but I've never played WoW in a hardcore way, so I'm nowhere near a burnout or a addiction recovery or even a "must hate my ex" syndrom with WoW, so I just randomly sub when I feel like it, though I'm not even on WOTK yet.

Originally posted by Dhaeman

How is this expansion any less generic than the previous two released?

It's more generic. Less creative.

I think the only people that are excited by the new expansion would have been excited no matter what the expansion content.

While I'm mildly curious about how the old world will be redone, can't seen it holding my interest for long because at its core, its just more of the same.  If you enjoy how it plays now, then you'll keep enjoying it.

I walked away quite a while ago and I'm looking forward to something new, and not continuing down the same road.

Originally posted by Kyleran

While I'm mildly curious about how the old world will be redone, can't seen it holding my interest for long because at its core, its just more of the same.  If you enjoy how it plays now, then you'll keep enjoying it.

I walked away quite a while ago and I'm looking forward to something new, and not continuing down the same road.

 

This

If I'm not playing anything when this expansion comes out I'll probably get it, otherwise I'll pass on it.

Originally posted by Drakkhen

Originally posted by left4shaman

Players especailly old players who quit are gonna resub just to see how their old home world has changed and just for that alone is gonna bring many many subs back to WoW.

 

Heh, sorry bud but I won't be resubbing.

I quit after TBC and haven't looked back.

i'm asking myself what this guy is doing on this forum posting on this thread o.O

You know what would be new, creative and exciting? Some new server types. I would reroll immediately to play on a player economy server where everything is player crafted, and mobs only drop materials and money. You would have to add some crafting options to cover what can't be made now, but it would be much more immersive.

You know what would be fun? A series of world-changing events like the AQ opening was.

Originally posted by left4shaman

Players especailly old players who quit are gonna resub just to see how their old home world has changed and just for that alone is gonna bring many many subs back to WoW, and with the new guild leveling, guild talents, and personal talent customization blizzard is just giving so much more in this expansion then possibly wotlk and TBC combined. I was very hyped for SWTOR but if their both released at the same time I think I just gotta see how Azeroth has changed from once I knew.

I think releasing them at the same time might be counter productive for blizzard. In that, I mean why bother? Blizzard currently holds the reigns in terms of player numbers, and they are quite committed players .They enjoy their game, they feel a connection to their guilds, they play religiously, and they are enjoying the experience. I don't see where TOR has a place in this discussion.

WoW, like it or not, is a solid game. Right, not my game, but a solid game nonetheless. Yes, there will be a bleed to Bio's game, but there have been many bleeds in the last few years including, well, everything. AoC, Warhammer, EQ2 (in improved state), Lotro, blah...and a few of them are considered successful, and seriously, from old numbers standpoint are successful.

What needs to be clarified, there is no competition for WoW in the western market. Yet, there are successful games to be played, EQ2 and Eve to reiterate.

Bioware's project, in my humble opinion, is going to operate separate of Blizzard, which will continue to dominate in the sub war. For now, and probably 5 years from now, that war has been lost in NA and EU. I mean, the friend that likely introduces you to this genre is probably playing a blizzard game...

It's the same game; they're just adding new content. That's what expansion packs do.

The core gameplay isn't changing, and people who don't like WoW won't suddenly start liking it.New MMOs will be competitive as long as they introduce new mechanics instead of trying to copy the WoW/EQ model.

Well, I personally think SWTOR could really take MMOGs to the next level if done right. And Star Wars as a franchise dwarfs WOW. The new Guild Wars 2 trailer has gotten me far more excited than what I've seen for Catylcysm.

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Originally posted by left4shaman
Players especailly old players who quit are gonna resub just to see how their old home world has changed and just for that alone is gonna bring many many subs back to WoW, and with the new guild leveling, guild talents, and personal talent customization blizzard is just giving so much more in this expansion then possibly wotlk and TBC combined. I was very hyped for SWTOR but if their both released at the same time I think I just gotta see how Azeroth has changed from once I knew.

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Aw so they resub for a month and then its same old shit and they quit.

Me, I dont resub at all. Ive played this game since release.
Its a great game. If I was a new player coming in at expansion thats a least a solid year of elated gameplay.

But now? Meh. Its old hat.

By the way Guild Leveling, just another thing they stole from Warhammer among many.

Did I mention I think your a fanboi?

Originally posted by logangregor

 

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By the way Guild Leveling, just another thing they stole from Warhammer among many.

I bet they do a better job with it, like they did with siege combat and queue from anywhere BGs. Nothing wrong with copying good ideas. WoW would not even be a game without that principle.

Anyway, yeah, it's just more of the same.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

You know what would be new, creative and exciting? Some new server types. I would reroll immediately to play on a player economy server where everything is player crafted, and mobs only drop materials and money. You would have to add some crafting options to cover what can't be made now, but it would be much more immersive.

You know what would be fun? A series of world-changing events like the AQ opening was.

I think AQ opening was one of the best things they did right in the game.  It brings the WoW community together closer doing shit like that.

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Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

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Originally posted by logangregor

 

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By the way Guild Leveling, just another thing they stole from Warhammer among many.

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I bet they do a better job with it, like they did with siege combat and queue from anywhere BGs. Nothing wrong with copying good ideas. WoW would even be a game without that principle.
Anyway, yeah, it's just more of the same.

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Well taking ideas from other games is what WoW was to begin with.

No reason to stop now.

Btw siege combat came DAOC and not from warhammer.

Originally posted by Mazin

I think AQ opening was one of the best things they did right in the game.  It brings the WoW community together closer doing shit like that.

Yes. It really was amazing.

Depends what mmos we are talking about. If we're talking Guild Wars 2 and The Old Republic absolutely not.  If' we're talking everyone else but those 2 then yeah I would say so.