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Aside from trying to save AOC I dont see what the point of dumping an expansion is. To be sure they haven't even fixed the original game sufficient to show a stable increase in subscriptions. The reason for that is that progress is very slow, and there are quite a few gaping holes in the original. Why should players continue to support this company, their developments, when they seem more interested in selling the next thing before actually delivering the existing product? I'm all for an expansion to AOC but I want that expansion after Funcom delivers what they advertised for AOC. I really don't want anybody to buy the expansion and support the ripping off of the veterns or players who are already playing a game which evidently is not Funcom's top priority. Announcing the launching of an expansion is a kick in the balls to everybody who has supported and given time to AOC and Funcom. |
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Seems like they have some pretty good ideas. I do like that they chose Khitai for the first expansion. After all it is so different from the rest and has lots of possibilities with lore. Might check it out, if I get bored with Aion and Dragon Age: Origins. |
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Originally posted by LizardEgypt
Well, given that it's a realistic asian setting... not following any modern asian design.. and still within the Conan universe.. I don't really see where your argument fits in here.
Remember the original Conan books? The graphic novels? Conan the Barbarian movies [as lore inaccurate as it was]? That's the feel I'm after. That's why I bought AoC. Bloody, gritty, but at the same time quite epic, too. Something no other MMO does. Khitai - basically China - is as far away from my interest as humanly possible. And I'm sorry, did you say REALISTIC asian setting? I couldn't hear you very well from here, riding on my tiger. The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. |
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Info found at http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=203381
GENERAL INFO NEW CONTINENT KHITAI REGIONS KHITAN CLASSES NEW MOUNTS NEW FACTIONS NEW DUNGEONS |
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Originally posted by thexrated
I am definitely looking forward to the AoC expansion. The videos are pretty nice. Funcom will just make AoC alot more flushed out with this expansion. I am also wondering about the Alternate abilities that they are going to include. I can see this as a great way to expand your character. As far as Aion is concerned, I have been playing in the Aion beta. So far, I have found leveling to feel pretty linear and almost like a grind. I am hoping that Aion's RvR and raids at the end game makes up for the leveling. |
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Originally posted by BadMedicine
Remember the original Conan books? The graphic novels? Conan the Barbarian movies [as lore inaccurate as it was]? That's the feel I'm after. That's why I bought AoC. Bloody, gritty, but at the same time quite epic, too. Something no other MMO does. Khitai - basically China - is as far away from my interest as humanly possible. And I'm sorry, did you say REALISTIC asian setting? I couldn't hear you very well from here, riding on my tiger. from the ign interveiw "Conan's actions in the story "The Tower of the Elephant" were a catalyst for the events which have shaped Khitai for the last two decades." and "Visually, we've made a conscious choice to avoid the Japanese style of the Dark Horse Khitai comics - we've focused much more on the cultures of ancient China and Korea. We also use the recent Khitai sourcebook by Mongoose Publishing as a source of inspiration." so it dont sound that bad an is based off The Tower of the Elephant. cute on the tiger realism thing their but people cant change into demons either .sorry ya dont like the expasnion seting.good luck on what other game ya go to.but i get that epic feel ya was talking about playing aoc from time to time still. "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." — Robert E. Howard, The Tower of the Elephant (1933) |
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Really likes the ideas in the expansion, now time to see if they can manage to make them happen as they want them too. :) |
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Maybe they wil add dailies for the fracftion rep. And i like the betrayal quest idea... Hopefully more info soon...
RIP, Orc Choppa |
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Will be interesting to see how they do the faction system. Quite like that they have no plans of increasing the level cap too. It seems to be the general thinking when making an expansion that they need to raise the level cap and render all existsing content more or less useless as people want bother doing it anymore.
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If this follows the eve model and is free then it's really fleshing the game out well and I'm impressed and I'll come back. If it's $30 bucks though then I can't see it's worth the money and won't entice many back imo though will bring in a good ammount of cash from the current playerbase. Just seems like it's fleshing out what should have been there originally, now alts will be more fun as you will have proper varity up to endgame like well pretty much every other successful mmo and there will be more reason to continue to play in the endgame with alternate advancement. Sounds like some nice editions but they are going to attract very few people back if it comes with a big price tag. Especially since we can buy the original game for a fiver with a month included, |
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I don't see the expansion will do any good for AOC, on contrarily, I think it might be worsen the image. Becuase an expansion pack without level remove is simply NOTHING for mmorpg. It's not The Sims 3 to add University pack, Beach pack. It's just another larger instance. Only remove the level cap means the game company decided to go further on. Turbine released MOM to remove the level cap and brought the gameplay into another map, but Funcom follows the steps of The Sims 3. And who will want to buy The Sims 3? Maxis just repeate how they ripped money off those people from The Sims 2. Right after the Sims 3 just released, you can hear the next expansion World Adventures is on the way to rip your pocket.
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Originally posted by Larry2298 In my opinion the new levels most developers add is nothing but an excuse for not really bothering making interesting enough content or alternative ways to progress your character. In the end what all players want is to feel that their character have a certain progress, and this is much easier to do with adding more levels, this way you get the natural feeling that when you level up you get more powerful. What if an alternative system makes it possible to customize your character more, this could be based on experience points you gather whilst fighting or farming, but instead of a new level you get different choices that can improve your character and makes it better and more "unique" then all the others. Given enough choices players will be able to customize their characters way more then they would by just having X new levels. Will be interesting to see Funcom's idea more on this area and hopefully that idea will be good enough to keep up the feeling of progress on your character. Time will show exactly what they have in plan. :) |
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I have been waiting for this announcement for a while now, as i was quite curious. I think it's a bit dissapointing really. It looks to me like a major patch rather than a full scale, fully priced, expansion. No new level cap and no new classes is probably the biggest weakness of this expansion. Considering the ease of leveling in Conan and the limited content at launch, a lot of the hardcore fans (those who played from the start) will have played most (if not all) of the 3 starting races and quite a few of the classes already. Starting from scratch with a new race only, but no new class, might not be as interesting anymore. If the expansion follows in the original games footsteps in terms of content, then the Kithai starting area won't nearly be enough to level up either (similar to players having to use Stygian, Aquilonian and Cimmerian areas of the original games to level up or face a long grind if they only stayed in their races respective areas) - and the question is: do you really want to do all the content yet again to level up? A few new high level areas, 1 confirmed dungeon (probably there will be at least 1 more group and 1 raid dungeon - or at least i'd hope so), and some large outdoor areas (Dessert type and lush meadows - both seen already) and probably another PvP zone - not necessarily worth a boxed/priced expansion tag in my opinion. This sounds about equivalent to Blizzards Call of the Crusade update for WoW (which was free of charge). Alternate advancement points, not spells and combos are nice, but without new levels, how long can it be fun to teach an old pony new tricks? I quite enjoyed AA points in Everquest (so the idea is certainly not a new one), but back then getting AAs was something you'd do between raids and other end game content (PvP etc.) - it sounds to me that the AoC expansion is not going to feature a lot of raiding content at all and the PvP (faction aside) does not mention any new areas or features at all. So gaining alternate advancement points might well be the main purpose for playing the game. |
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i can't wait for the expansion !! There will be a retail version ? 
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Originally posted by ogcopcka
as opposed to? course there will be a retail version (either direct dl or box), otherwise, umm, how is the public going to get it? |
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I'm looking forward to the expansion as well, and am very pleased to see that FC won't be increasing the level cap, although the new skills that can be opened up are a form of character progression post-80. I'm also hoping that FC don't introduce any new classes - they need to ensure that the current classes are balanced first IMO. As for the classes that Khitani characters will be able to take, my guess would be that they will, like the other 3 races, be unable to take a class from one archetype, and my guess for that would be the priest archetype. Although the Khitani are noted mages, I'm not sure that having necromancers would fit with Khitai. Stygia is a nation obsessed with death, possibly justifying keeping necromancers Stygian-only. As regards the soldier and rogue archetypes, I'd guess that they will allow players free access to all of the classes under them for Khitani characters. Although the tiger mounts seem like a step towards high fantasy, I'm hoping that the magical side of things is kept low-key to maintain some notion of low-fantasy. |
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Sweet, expansion pack is looking real good, loved the video. Can't wait! |
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Age of Conan got much more improvements since launch and runs nicely, smoother on my 4 years old computer. And i think expansion pack will bring more people into game.. |
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After they lay off everyone after this comes out do not expect much new content and it will probably be a year plus before the bugs are fixed just like release. Also, this game will be competing with a myriad of new MMOs so the winback failure doomed them there...GW2, KOTOR MMO, AION, new Final fantasy,etc. Just look how much damage every MMO launch has done to AoC so far. The game has only half full servers at best today. So it seems like it has already failed. |
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Originally posted by finaticd
lol - you still trashing the game and the company in the same setting? Dont mind that you dont like Funcom, but there is no denying that the game, at its current state, is doing well. Also, Funcom has throughout this period managed to 1) Fix AoC (sieges are still not up to par though) 2) Run a full dev team for a new mmo 3) Run a team to develop an expansion 4) Run a couple of smaller teams for casual mmos All this without reducing their 38Mill USD cash reserve. The company is faaaaaar from dead. Edit: Forgot that they are still making money on Anarchy Online as well! (just a tad though) Playing: Not anymore. Just lurking. |
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Originally posted by veritas_X I do not listen to those AoC is failing morons. If they would actually log onto a server they would see that it is not. I play on the Wiccana server and it does not matter when I log on, I always see alot of people. I even play very late at night alot of the time and its still good. |
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Originally posted by Aceundor
lol - you still trashing the game and the company in the same setting? Dont mind that you dont like Funcom, but there is no denying that the game, at its current state, is doing well. Also, Funcom has throughout this period managed to 1) Fix AoC (sieges are still not up to par though) 2) Run a full dev team for a new mmo 3) Run a team to develop an expansion 4) Run a couple of smaller teams for casual mmos All this without reducing their 38Mill USD cash reserve. The company is faaaaaar from dead. Edit: Forgot that they are still making money on Anarchy Online as well! (just a tad though)
This is an lol post my man, 1) Not only are sieges broke..They have never worked correctly....and never will work correctly; If it could have been fixed it would have been fixed by now. Can you put a number on the amount of players that left AoC because of this broken feature alone.?? I'l guess hundreds of thousands during the course of 1 year. 2)&3)&4) Im glad you think this is a good thing (since their staff is only about 188 people). Because if i was Naive enough to pay for this game --Im not sure I would have a sense of humour about these 3 points. Because ultimately the AoC users are paying them to do this, but the with fixes that AoC needs, and with the addition of content has been taken away (because of a lack of focus on AoC) is to the point that AoC is virtually at a"Stand Still. FC is probably hoping everyone will forget the fact (by announcing the Xpac) that you probably won't be seeing any major patches til Xmas." But if you are okay with that? Power to you. .way to get walked on. Which brings us to the lol statement of 38mil. Exactly what quarter are you getting that from. Last quarter? Because i know that their next Q report is right around the corner...and im betting it will be "JUICY." /rubs hands together. I'll also guess... They are faaaar from being ok.
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Originally posted by Blackwell99
Actually the last quarterly report (next one is due out in a few weeks I think) clearly stated they had around 40M USD cash reserves as of the end of march this year (and that hasn't fallen since the previous quarter much at all). You don't even need to dig into the financial speak it is right there on the press release here so on a financial basis they seem to be on very sound footing. So its far from a 'lol' statement, I would expect from looking at their last few reports it is unlikely to have fallen that much in the last quarter either. Next quarterly report is soon, so we will see then, but either way with their income and the type of expenditure you see from the previous reports, they could last a few years even if Age of Conan stopped contributing anything at all :p That is not a company in any kind of financial trouble. |
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Originally posted by Blackwell99
This is an lol post my man, 1) Not only are sieges broke..They have never worked correctly....and never will work correctly; If it could have been fixed it would have been fixed by now. Can you put a number on the amount of players that left AoC because of this broken feature alone.?? I'l guess hundreds of thousands during the course of 1 year. 2)&3)&4) Im glad you think this is a good thing (since their staff is only about 188 people). Because if i was Naive enough to pay for this game --Im not sure I would have a sense of humour about these 3 points. Because ultimately the AoC users are paying them to do this, but the with fixes that AoC needs, and with the addition of content has been taken away (because of a lack of focus on AoC) is to the point that AoC is virtually at a"Stand Still. FC is probably hoping everyone will forget the fact (by announcing the Xpac) that you probably won't be seeing any major patches til Xmas." But if you are okay with that? Power to you. .way to get walked on. Which brings us to the lol statement of 38mil. Exactly what quarter are you getting that from. Last quarter? Because i know that their next Q report is right around the corner...and im betting it will be "JUICY." /rubs hands together. I'll also guess... They are faaaar from being ok.
Sorry, but can´t take you seriously any longer after the famous thread "Age of Norwegian Business Practices", where you practically blamed a whole country for AoCs "failures"..
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Originally posted by Thornrage A lot of interesting things, well except those tigers. Not that it's a big deal, but I couldn't see that one coming. I'm just gonna say that I really hope for Funcom's sake that EVERYTHING mentioned is going to be in the game when you buy it. I'd love to see a lot of things currently screwed up in the game fixed up before this is released, though. Just to give a few examples: crafting, interface, sieges (don't know if that is ever gonna happen now). I'm sure there's few people who are still willing to check out the expansion, as long as it's not too expensive. |
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