Originally posted by Bureyku

Originally posted by tddavis

If it is for just the consoles they are personally attacking their PC player base. Microsoft has made it pretty easy to port PC games to the Xbox 360, it is one of the reasons developers like Microsoft so much. Making the PS3 version will be harder than doing a duo Xbox 360 and PC version together. So I imagine there will be a PC version, there is always a PC version because Microsoft makes it so easy to do 2 platforms at once.

oh on a note, anyone who thinks FPS are better on a console isn't a real gamer.

It isn't a personal attack.  I am not going to argue it with you though if you take it personally then go for it.  There could be more than meets the eye with this as some people have already questioned the guy and he gave them interesting smiles.  People like Lumster are just way out of line, but whatever.

Oh on a note, anyong who thinks that FPS aren't good on a console isn't a real gamer.  A real gamer is someone who can smoke fools on PC and Console since they are two completely different skillsets outside of map knowledge. 

stupid

Originally posted by Puffah

You're an idiot. Give me a mouse and keyboard and i will utterly smoke anyone with a gamepad.

It's not about being better with a mouse than someone with a gamepad.  Playing with everyone else who has gamepads or everyone else who uses mouse/keyboard makes it an even playing field.  FPS on consoles have come a long way and are incredibly fun.  If you are to ignorant to see that console and pc FPS's are two completely different skillsets to master and are both fun then it is only your loss.

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Originally posted by Puffah
You're an idiot. Give me a mouse and keyboard and i will utterly smoke anyone with a gamepad.

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Only stupid person here is you, sir. Learn to read...

 Wow people should quit their whining and look at what this game actually is offering.

How many times has this been done ever?

Exactly it hasnt! This is the first time anyone is going to make a PC MMO and a Console MMO interact directly with each other. Its revolutionary already and all people can talk about it "O man I wont get to play it on my 2k PC!!".

-Jive

Originally posted by Bureyku

Originally posted by tddavis

If it is for just the consoles they are personally attacking their PC player base. Microsoft has made it pretty easy to port PC games to the Xbox 360, it is one of the reasons developers like Microsoft so much. Making the PS3 version will be harder than doing a duo Xbox 360 and PC version together. So I imagine there will be a PC version, there is always a PC version because Microsoft makes it so easy to do 2 platforms at once.

oh on a note, anyone who thinks FPS are better on a console isn't a real gamer.

It isn't a personal attack.  I am not going to argue it with you though if you take it personally then go for it.  There could be more than meets the eye with this as some people have already questioned the guy and he gave them interesting smiles.  People like Lumster are just way out of line, but whatever.

Oh on a note, anyong who thinks that FPS aren't good on a console isn't a real gamer.  A real gamer is someone who can smoke fools on PC and Console since they are two completely different skillsets outside of map knowledge. 

The only other reason I could see them doing it is because There is no fair fight in a console user going up against someone who uses a mouse and keyboard. The one thing that is great about consoles is everyone uses the same hardware. I still think there is not a good enough reason to not make a PC version, CCP could simply separate the consoles from the PC's on different servers. PC's have proven themselves far more than consoles have at sustaining a community.

they dont release on the pc because its easy to crack and people will download it 100x times then they will on the consoles but people who got a chipped flashed 360 will do it anyways i wont waste money on this tho saving for the new avp game that will be 1000 times more awesome

I think they have bigger plans than just Dust 514 and EVE.  I have a feeling there will be more coming to the PC in terms of Ambulation and the interfacing with planets.  CCP has proven itself with EVE so let's give them the benefit of the doubt and see where they take their IP.  I am really excited about what they are doing.

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

 Wow people should quit their whining and look at what this game actually is offering.

 

How many times has this been done ever?

 

Exactly it hasnt! This is the first time anyone is going to make a PC MMO and a Console MMO interact directly with each other. Its revolutionary already and all people can talk about it "O man I wont get to play it on my 2k PC!!".

 

-Jive

I don't give a damn what it offers, BECAUSE  I CAN'T PLAY IT.

And for the record, not every PC gamer is rich or has a 2k rig. I spend 600 bucks every 2 years and I can play pretty much every game just fine.

Originally posted by Raizeen

they dont release on the pc because its easy to crack and people will download it 100x times then they will on the consoles but people who got a chipped flashed 360 will do it anyways i wont waste money on this tho saving for the new avp game that will be 1000 times more awesome

that is why the PC market like to make MMO's, because you can't crack them. You have to have a membership and pay a monthly fee. This is being designed as an MMO so that is not an issue. I don't even know how much hacking the game would effect gameplay because Hacking is very hard to do on a MMO. It not like you hack and get banned from a server you just go to a different server. If you get banned you get banned from the game forever unless you purchase a new account.

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

 Wow people should quit their whining and look at what this game actually is offering.

 

How many times has this been done ever?

 

Exactly it hasnt! This is the first time anyone is going to make a PC MMO and a Console MMO interact directly with each other. Its revolutionary already and all people can talk about it "O man I wont get to play it on my 2k PC!!".

 

-Jive

 

I don't give a damn what it offers, BECAUSE  I CAN'T PLAY IT.

 

And for the record, not every PC gamer is rich or has a 2k rig. I spend 600 bucks every 2 years and I can play pretty much every game just fine.

wah wah wah wah lol just save some money for a 360 or buy one cheap

Originally posted by Lumster

 

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Originally posted by Bureyku

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Originally posted by Lumster

 

"which is being developed for the current generation of consoles"
 
Yeaaaaaaaaa way to treat your followers who play EvE ON A FREAKING PC.

You know what CCP? Go F!*% yourself.

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Wow over reaction much?  This is a separate game than EVE.  You don't have to play it.  It is a game that is meant for consoles, and FPS's on consoles are very good.  There are basically no hacks, and incredibly fun to play once you get good. 
Why does this piss you off so bad?  You think that the company owes something to you to make every game they release for the rest of eternity on PC with a 100% focus on what Lumster wants?  Give me a break. 

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It is true that they do not owe me anything.......so what? Can't I be pissed about the fact that they sold out?

I doubt that most EvE fans have a next generation console, so why only consoles? Only for the money, sure they are a company but some companies even tho they want max profits do something nice for their fanbase once in a while.

If you cannot see just how much of a kick in the face of EvE fans this is then you are just as much a tool as CCP.

I am an EVE player of the first hour. I am an EVE fan. I own a x360 and a PS3. 

I don't feel like being kicked in the face.

CCP is a professional company that makes its own desicions. I won't blame them for it, just as they won't blame me for not buying one of their products.

Honestly, making 0.0 sovereignty influenced by a console ONLY MMOFPS makes me feel violated, this pretty much reminds me of the CU-NGE and TOA-NF.

With ToA, Mythic said, that the PVE items would only have a small impact on the RvR game, we all know how that turned out ( at least the DAoC vets do :p ), DAoC started dying slowly after that and the New Frontiers, another major change to the game.

The NGE was different, it did not kill SWG slowly, but instantly, and they knew beforehand they were screwing over the vets.

EVE Online should have gotten this as an expansion on the core game, not some external console game, I mean wth?

So I think this will be CCP's very own CU-NGE or ToA-NF

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

 Wow people should quit their whining and look at what this game actually is offering.

 

How many times has this been done ever?

 

Exactly it hasnt! This is the first time anyone is going to make a PC MMO and a Console MMO interact directly with each other. Its revolutionary already and all people can talk about it "O man I wont get to play it on my 2k PC!!".

 

-Jive

 

I don't give a damn what it offers, BECAUSE  I CAN'T PLAY IT.

 

And for the record, not every PC gamer is rich or has a 2k rig. I spend 600 bucks every 2 years and I can play pretty much every game just fine.

Well lets see here, I got my computer for 2k 4 years ago, and it still plays every game on the market. In two years it will still play every game on the market, and guess how much you will have spent? 2k! 

And who cares if You can play it. God what a mook this guy is huh?

Originally posted by CyberWiz

Honestly, making 0.0 sovereignty influenced by a console ONLY MMOFPS makes me feel violated, this pretty much reminds me of the CU-NGE and TOA-NF.

With ToA, Mythic said, that the PVE items would only have a small impact on the RvR game, we all know how that turned out ( at least the DAoC vets do :p ), DAoC started dying slowly after that and the New Frontiers, another major change to the game.

The NGE was different, it did not kill SWG slowly, but instantly, and they knew beforehand they were screwing over the vets.

EVE Online should have gotten this as an expansion on the core game, not some external console game, I mean wth?

So I think this will be CCP's very own CU-NGE or ToA-N

Another over reaction.  These are stand alone games that were completely altered and changed dramatically.  This is simply a new game where the two games tie in influence through some way of which we are unclear.  I doubt they will let the console only game affect their PC MMO in any kind of drastic way.  Just give them a chance...

Originally posted by CyberWiz

Honestly, making 0.0 sovereignty influenced by a console ONLY MMOFPS makes me feel violated, this pretty much reminds me of the CU-NGE and TOA-NF.

With ToA, Mythic said, that the PVE items would only have a small impact on the RvR game, we all know how that turned out ( at least the DAoC vets do :p ), DAoC started dying slowly after that and the New Frontiers, another major change to the game.

The NGE was different, it did not kill SWG slowly, but instantly, and they know beforehand they were screwing over the vets.

EVE Online should have gotten this as an expansion on the core game, not some external console game, I mean wth?

 

 

To me this only makes a "Hardcore game" even more hardcore. I would think EvE fans would love it, or is a socio-economic space sim now too casual, and a Console FPS scares you guys?

Your telling me EvE fans can collaborate and work with hundreds of people with an in game corporation, but they cant get on AOL instant messager for 5 seconds to tell someone "Hey go take back this planet with your guys".

What a farce this EvE online is becoming, if its players are so against change and innovation.

-Jive

Wow you are cute, value doesn't add if you replace the parts. And you only value what its worth right now. My comp is worth like 400-500 dollars at MAX.

Seriously common sense is not your strength......

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

 Wow people should quit their whining and look at what this game actually is offering.

 

How many times has this been done ever?

 

Exactly it hasnt! This is the first time anyone is going to make a PC MMO and a Console MMO interact directly with each other. Its revolutionary already and all people can talk about it "O man I wont get to play it on my 2k PC!!".

 

-Jive

 

I don't give a damn what it offers, BECAUSE  I CAN'T PLAY IT.

 

And for the record, not every PC gamer is rich or has a 2k rig. I spend 600 bucks every 2 years and I can play pretty much every game just fine.

 

Well lets see here, I got my computer for 2k 4 years ago, and it still plays every game on the market. In two years it will still play every game on the market, and guess how much you will have spent? 2k! 

 

And who cares if You can play it. God what a mook this guy is huh?

You do realise that it will directly influence the current EVE Online game right?

So we can't participate, it will influence us ( the EVE Online players ) and we should not fear the changes it will bring?

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

To me this only makes a "Hardcore game" even more hardcore. I would think EvE fans would love it, or is a socio-economic space sim now too casual, and a Console FPS scares you guys?

Your telling me EvE fans can collaborate and work with hundreds of people with an in game corporation, but they cant get on AOL instant messager for 5 seconds to tell someone "Hey go take back this planet with your guys".

What a farce this EvE online is becoming, if its players are so against change and innovation.

-Jive

People in general are anti-change.  They look at all that could change negatively and that is what they focus on it is human nature.

Don't forget EVE's new social networking.  They have even tied in EVE with an iPhone app.  I am sure they could do some really creative stuff with the social networking to allow communication between EVE and Dust 514 players.

Originally posted by CyberWiz

You do realise that it will directly influence the current EVE Online game right?

So we can't participate, it will influence us ( the EVE Online players ) and we should not fear the changes it will bring?

 

You don't know to what extent it will influence EVE.  It may be EVE that influences Dust 514 almost entirely and not vice versa.  The influence may only be tied into new systems that won't affect the current game.  You are making negative assumptions and we are thinking about how great this could be.  I guess there isn't much difference between us besides you are negative and we are positive.

Originally posted by Bureyku

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

To me this only makes a "Hardcore game" even more hardcore. I would think EvE fans would love it, or is a socio-economic space sim now too casual, and a Console FPS scares you guys?

Your telling me EvE fans can collaborate and work with hundreds of people with an in game corporation, but they cant get on AOL instant messager for 5 seconds to tell someone "Hey go take back this planet with your guys".

What a farce this EvE online is becoming, if its players are so against change and innovation.

-Jive

 

People in general are anti-change.  They look at all that could change negatively and that is what they focus on it is human nature.

Don't forget EVE's new social networking.  They have even tied in EVE with an iPhone app.  I am sure they could do some really creative stuff with the social networking to allow communication between EVE and Dust 514 players.

NOT RELEASING FOR THE PC IS NO GOD***********************  INNOVATION, CHANGE IT MIGHT BE YES BUT A *********** HORRIBLE CHANGE............

Exciting news, I am eagerly awaiting this!

Originally posted by Lumster

NOT RELEASING FOR THE PC IS NO GOD***********************  INNOVATION, CHANGE IT MIGHT BE YES BUT A *********** HORRIBLE CHANGE............

Dude you need to calm down.  We don't know hardly any details, we don't know what is in store for EVE on the PC, we don't know how much these two titles will tie in together, and we don't know why dude man gave a interesting smile with the PC question.  Just relax and let's see what happens.  Some of us can be excited about a new game can't we? 

Originally posted by Bureyku

Originally posted by CyberWiz

You do realise that it will directly influence the current EVE Online game right?

So we can't participate, it will influence us ( the EVE Online players ) and we should not fear the changes it will bring?

 

 

You don't know to what extent it will influence EVE.  It may be EVE that influences Dust 514 almost entirely and not vice versa.  The influence may only be tied into new systems that won't affect the current game.  You are making negative assumptions and we are thinking about how great this could be.  I guess there isn't much difference between us besides you are negative and we are positive.

Exactly, how cool would it be to get "Wired ISK" while on the battlefield to buy a new round of weapons or armor. If the corps dont want to pay up then you just say screw it. Im sure people will go "Yea but what if they just leave with the ISK?" MAke it so the only benefit the ISK gives them is on the battlefield. Then why would someone who plays the game not want to use the money? They want to play the game, you help them play with your money. Then they keep your planets safe and on your side.

-Jive

Originally posted by Bureyku

Originally posted by Lumster

NOT RELEASING FOR THE PC IS NO GOD***********************  INNOVATION, CHANGE IT MIGHT BE YES BUT A *********** HORRIBLE CHANGE............

 

Dude you need to calm down.  We don't know hardly any details, we don't know what is in store for EVE on the PC, we don't know how much these two titles will tie in together, and we don't know why dude man gave a interesting smile with the PC question.  Just relax and let's see what happens.  Some of us can be excited about a new game can't we? 

I would be excited too, it sounds really good so far......

But again, why should I care? I wont be playing it, and that is not because I don't want to.

Looks like none of you bother to watch the video linked in the source.