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8/15/09 9:21:06 PM#126
Originally posted by MyDcmbr81
I am going to have to disagree with you there. I have a current AoC account, 3 level 80's, have done all the raid content including killing Levi, done plenty of sieges on both sides..... basically, I have done everything AoC has to offer. Now having said that, the beta version of Aion that I have been playing the last few weekends (which is not 1.5) is well beyond AoC in content as well as stability. I have not had one crash to desktop while playing Aion, nor have I seen mobs or even complete zones bug out to the point where they are unkill/playable.
I have alsomuliple 80s done all the raid content and over 100 seiges, currently dont have a problem with zone stabilty and have never had a crash to desk top. And like i said my experience of the last 2 betas was unplayable dur to lag spikes and constant rubebr banding |
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8/15/09 11:11:38 PM#127
Originally posted by Vizza
You really took that graph seriously?
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8/16/09 3:19:29 AM#128
AoC failed? OMG ...
I logged into AoC today, the servers were still up. There was still a whole load of people at the traders, I was still constantly running into other players.
Hmmm, I dont get it, AoC seems to be doing fine to me. |
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8/16/09 3:41:24 AM#129
Originally posted by Thornrage
AoC is a failure if you compare it to game as successful as Aion. Aion is the most polished and stable MMO about to be released in the West this century, period. Add in the dynamic gameplay and the large scale smooth PvP you have 3.5mill+ subs in Aisa already. Aion could potentially drive the final nail into AoC and WAR's coffin, this isn't specualtion its a fact - a game can only survive for so long with only ~3 servers. Aion Gives you Wings!!! |
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Originally posted by supbro
AoC is a failure if you compare it to game as successful as Aion. Aion is the most polished and stable MMO about to be released in the West this century, period. Add in the dynamic gameplay and the large scale smooth PvP you have 3.5mill+ subs in Aisa already. Aion could potentially drive the final nail into AoC and WAR's coffin, this isn't specualtion its a fact - a game can only survive for so long with only ~3 servers. it's too bad aion fucking sucks |
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8/16/09 3:53:46 AM#131
Originally posted by rr2real it's too bad aion fucking sucks
Enjoy your ban wow troll :))) Aion Gives you Wings!!! |
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8/16/09 3:58:25 AM#132
Originally posted by supbro
AoC is a failure if you compare it to game as successful as Aion. Aion is the most polished and stable MMO about to be released in the West this century, period. Add in the dynamic gameplay and the large scale smooth PvP you have 3.5mill+ subs in Aisa already. Aion could potentially drive the final nail into AoC and WAR's coffin, this isn't specualtion its a fact - a game can only survive for so long with only ~3 servers.
Weird... in actuality... people from AoC arnt going to run to AION... AoC provides an adult atmosphere with a style of pvp thats more realistic... AION = Upgraded WoW. WoW players will run to AION as with many others. WAR would be more reasonable to say it would have to go F2P to stay alive as it's a toned down game to compete with WoW. You completely missed the idea of Nitches.... Some games fill a desire for only 60k people but those 60k have their desires filled... so they arnt going to go play every new hyped MMO(AoC and they have over 100k). WAR also offered a mix of WoW and DAoC but it wasn't really a nitch that competes as it's a little of a few games as opposed to A LOT of one unique experience. So basically what i'm saying is AION will drain from similar games and only present an appeal to the nitch gamers who may be eyeing the market. People who dislike WAR/WOW wont like AION most likely and like all MMO's US steady subs will be 100-200k and the rest are all foriegn. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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Originally posted by supbro it's too bad aion fucking sucks
Enjoy your ban wow troll :))) enjoy your korean grind game |
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8/16/09 4:05:08 AM#134
Originally posted by rr2real
Enjoy your ban wow troll :))) enjoy your korean grind game
every game is a grind and AION isn't a bad game it's really good and actually polished... So please stop being biased. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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8/16/09 4:10:48 AM#135
Originally posted by supbro
AoC is a failure if you compare it to game as successful as Aion. Aion is the most polished and stable MMO about to be released in the West this century, period. Add in the dynamic gameplay and the large scale smooth PvP you have 3.5mill+ subs in Aisa already. Aion could potentially drive the final nail into AoC and WAR's coffin, this isn't specualtion its a fact - a game can only survive for so long with only ~3 servers. I would hate to correct such an obvious intellectual post, but have you ever heard of LotRO. Arguably one of the smoothest launches of any AAA MMO. |
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8/16/09 4:14:15 AM#136
Originally posted by junzo316 I would hate to correct such an obvious intellectual post, but have you ever heard of LotRO. Arguably one of the smoothest launches of any AAA MMO. Lotro was really polished, almost perfect. I think Aion will compete though from experience with both in beta stage. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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Originally posted by Tailz2k7
Enjoy your ban wow troll :))) enjoy your korean grind game
every game is a grind and AION isn't a bad game it's really good and actually polished... So please stop being biased.
yup it's a polished free to play mmo with a monthly fee
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8/16/09 4:20:19 AM#138
Originally posted by rr2real enjoy your korean grind game
every game is a grind and AION isn't a bad game it's really good and actually polished... So please stop being biased.
yup it's a polished free to play mmo with a monthly fee
Name a game that truly deserves to charge monthly ? Please enlighten me into what fits your description of a good game and then explain why you arn't playing it as opposed to downing AION ... repeatedly. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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Originally posted by Tailz2k7 enjoy your korean grind game
every game is a grind and AION isn't a bad game it's really good and actually polished... So please stop being biased.
yup it's a polished free to play mmo with a monthly fee
Name a game that truly deserves to charge monthly ? Please enlighten me into what fits your description of a good game and then explain why you arn't playing it as opposed to downing AION ... repeatedly. world of warcraft but i played wow vanilla to death and i have no desire to play it any more everquest was worth the monthly fee also but i played that to death also |
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8/16/09 4:28:44 AM#140
Originally posted by junzo316
But that's just my opinion, and when you compare two well done games it's going to come down to people's opinions oh which they feel is better. "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer." |
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Originally posted by Dameonk
But that's just my opinion, and when you compare two well done games it's going to come down to people's opinions oh which they feel is better.
aion has already been released so it's not a true release |
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8/16/09 4:35:30 AM#142
Originally posted by rr2real
every game is a grind and AION isn't a bad game it's really good and actually polished... So please stop being biased.
yup it's a polished free to play mmo with a monthly fee
Name a game that truly deserves to charge monthly ? Please enlighten me into what fits your description of a good game and then explain why you arn't playing it as opposed to downing AION ... repeatedly. world of warcraft but i played wow vanilla to death and i have no desire to play it any more everquest was worth the monthly fee also but i played that to death also as I thought no game matches your desires nor are they worthy of your money or you'd be playing them and paying for them. I dont care for your excuses as to why not when the facts are simple... you arn't playing them or giving them any money. Regardless to what you say about this title that I most likely wont even play you're wrong. Your giving an opinion and trying to pass it as fact or law when it's not. just stfu and understand that you cant be pleased because your immature and your standards are too high... rather then doing something about it though you just like to talk on forums and pretend your ideals are something special. "Sometimes people say stuff they don''t mean, but more often then that they don''t say things they do mean" |
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Originally posted by Tailz2k7
every game is a grind and AION isn't a bad game it's really good and actually polished... So please stop being biased.
yup it's a polished free to play mmo with a monthly fee
Name a game that truly deserves to charge monthly ? Please enlighten me into what fits your description of a good game and then explain why you arn't playing it as opposed to downing AION ... repeatedly. world of warcraft but i played wow vanilla to death and i have no desire to play it any more everquest was worth the monthly fee also but i played that to death also as I thought no game matches your desires nor are they worthy of your money or you'd be playing them and paying for them. I dont care for your excuses as to why not when the facts are simple... you arn't playing them or giving them any money. Regardless to what you say about this title that I most likely wont even play you're wrong. Your giving an opinion and trying to pass it as fact or law when it's not. just stfu and understand that you cant be pleased because your immature and your standards are too high... rather then doing something about it though you just like to talk on forums and pretend your ideals are something special. what's that people say? even the fat girls need loving too? i think that saying applies to aion |
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8/16/09 4:39:59 AM#144
How many subscribers does an MMO need to have to 'succeed', again? Is even two thousand insufficient if it happens to sustain that number for ten frickin' years? Let's get a definition going, shall we? |
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8/16/09 4:45:10 AM#145
Originally posted by Saerain
In reality? It really depends on where the company's break even point is at. I believe anything over 100k subscribers is pretty good for most games. On these forums? 1-2 million, maybe? "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer." |
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8/16/09 4:48:00 AM#146
Originally posted by Dameonk
Even that is fail im afraid
Aion has betweeen 1.5 to 2.5 million subs and still growing where it launched. And still people claim its failing so. |
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8/16/09 5:13:46 AM#147
Originally posted by Leucrotta
Even that is fail im afraid
Aion has betweeen 1.5 to 2.5 million subs and still growing where it launched. And still people claim its failing so.
Right, I should have clarified... 1-2 million western subscribers + 4-6 million eastern subscribers. "There is as yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer." |
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8/16/09 5:20:38 AM#148
Originally posted by rr2real
I don't know guy maybe you should ask cleo. wtf. Ten people who speak make more noise than ten thousand who are silent. |
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8/16/09 5:46:45 AM#149
CB 6 and they stil havnt fixed thier server lag/rubber banding issues, unplayable ....again |
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8/16/09 6:04:33 AM#150
Originally posted by Zorndorf
The western subscription model means ... paying 180 dollars each year just to log in on the server to play ONE game. Those are the only numbers that are relevant. The eastern numbers are gathered in internet cafés in God knows what kind of definition of "player" activiity. Then stop claiming WoW had 11.6 million in feb Proof: Lineage2 had a supposed 4 Million "subscribers" base at launch in the east.... in the west it hardly has 60 K. wow then have 5 million relevant subscribtions and not the 11 million you claim it has Aion in its first month of China launch was complete FREE to play. So those "millions" at launch are questionable. After that Aion grown 43 servers in China It's the same with the western launches of War and AoC in 2008: 750 K sold copies .... but when the 180 dollars a year are charged, the numbers of players smelt faster than an icecream at 100° F. Had nothing to do with the 180 dollars Polish has NOTHING to do with it (see Lotro). AOC and WAR went down because of its Polish well the lack of it that is So again: whoever thinks Aion will get over 300K western paid subs after 6 months with unwestern and translated Korean Lore should first think before posting. What korean lore are you talking about? when i read the lore i sure didnt go WTF, its actualy a quite interesting lore and i cant wait to find out how it unfolds ingame Aion will be a succes with western 200K subs. Most likely it will settle down to around 150K until some new mmorpg's will come in 2010. Just have to wait and see on that one
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