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General Discussion  » WoW gets a massive revamp of all content in next expansion

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  Thenarius

Novice Member

Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 1114

 
8/14/09 9:04:24 PM#1

Well, I think our #1 kid deserves a thread.
While this is pure speculation guys, keep in mind this thing:Boubouille was never wrong, since I've started reading on his site, 2 years ago, so you should trust him.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php
TL;DR version: All of WoW's content(areas, instances, everything) gets a large revamp, basically it changes WoW's landscape to something far more different than it is.
What do you guys think?

  Thenarius

Novice Member

Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 1114

 
8/14/09 9:18:09 PM#2

Woah, I thought I'd get more answers on this,since it's a pretty radical change that can directly affect a lot of other MMOs. Boubouille got everything right with WOTLK as well, long before it was released.

  User Deleted
8/14/09 9:22:36 PM#3

This may bring me back to the game

  mThree3

Novice Member

Joined: 8/08/09
Posts: 50

8/14/09 9:26:39 PM#4

Every time I quit they do something to bring me back. Then I get bored again. I am not going back this time I don't care if they add /leveling to 50 if you have an 80.

  Comnitus

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Joined: 6/03/09
Posts: 2481

Revenge is a dish best served with mayonnaise and those little cheesy things on sticks.

8/14/09 9:28:37 PM#5

Yeah some noob was spamming about this in Trade chat tonight.

I say it's a good possibility. While he may not be right on the mark, I think he hit it in the ballpark.

  User Deleted
8/14/09 9:30:02 PM#6

Oh Almighty Blizzard be praised!

If this prophecy becomes a reality....

/reroll

 

  mThree3

Novice Member

Joined: 8/08/09
Posts: 50

8/14/09 9:37:40 PM#7

This is where my argument that this game is casual oriented comes into play.

They make it ENTIRELY too easy for the new people to MMOs that it keeps them in because they lack the ability to play any of the other decent MMOs.

  firefly2003

Advanced Member

Joined: 1/16/08
Posts: 1856

SINE QUA NON

8/14/09 9:55:52 PM#8

Who cares nubs play WOW.....

  logicbox9

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Joined: 4/15/06
Posts: 334

8/14/09 9:56:48 PM#9

Very cool idea... but I have to ask: What about people who don't buy the expansion? Are there going to "parallel worlds" on the server (i.e. instance for pre-cata and another for cata owners)?

  jonrd463

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Joined: 6/24/09
Posts: 450

8/14/09 10:00:09 PM#10

So... I wonder how or if the Emerald Dream fits into all of this. What I'm reading means that when this is released, bye bye pre-Wrath WoW.

So what about the people who don't get the expansion? The changes sound too wide spread to be accomplished in a simple patch. Previous patches prior to the expansions included little things to match with the expansion content, such as the Stormwind Docks, various NPCs and such. Going by this, the entire world is going to change, which means some SERIOUS, DVD sized clumps of data to be installed.

So, I'm thinking if any of this is true, it'll be inside the Emerald Dream. The problem with that theory, though, is that the Goblin and Worgen player race additions are tied directly in to the cataclysmic events.

Don't really know what to think. This guy has a track record of accuracy. Maybe we'll start seeing legacy guilds form en masse to give the old content a last hurrah before the world (of Warcraft) is turned completely upside down.

"You'll never win an argument with an idiot because he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous

  User Deleted
8/14/09 10:10:02 PM#11

Maybe they will make the previous expansions free and just charge for the new one.

  kopema

Novice Member

Joined: 9/18/06
Posts: 265

Take THAT, subspace!

8/14/09 10:44:47 PM#12

That all sounds like a giant load of crap.   1 part genuine information and 99 parts crack smoke.

If they actually did redo everything in the whole game, that would get me back in for a couple of months until I got bored with the new content.  But what about the millions of braindead hulks who get off on repeating the exact same quests a hundred times in a row?  No way in Hell Blizzard is going to upset that applecart.

If they were willing to make changes like this, they'd just feed them in over time so the game would stay interesting to the people who care about that sort of thing.  But replacing one treadmill with another?  That defeats the whole purpose of having a treadmill in the first place.  It'd take a giant amount of effort, and they'd probably lose more customers than they gained.

  Thenarius

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 1114

 
8/14/09 11:21:31 PM#13

As I said, Boubouille got some reliable inside sources, considering that he speculated perfectly about WOTLK and TBC long time before they were released.
For those without expansion, it sounds like they will be able to do 1-80 in new revamped Azeroth and play in the revamped Azeroth, but will have no access to new proper zones to do 80-85. It shouldn't be that bad since average connections aren't too expensive and are quite fast these days.
Also, "Leveling from 80-85 will be a MUCH bigger deal. Initially in 2008, they considered not raising the level cap at all, as making those quests takes a lot of manpower away from raiding content. But they are trying to make the story so grand and sweeping that ding'ing will actually MEAN something and not just be something you do." makes it sound like it won't actually be easy. I've read about 6 months ago on WoW forums that they plan to do some forced extremely long chains, with grouping between them(but they weren't sure if this is better than conventional leveling, since most WoW players won't be used with it), and the post of the dude who wrote that was deleted quite fast.
 

  mrroboto40

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Joined: 5/31/05
Posts: 672

8/14/09 11:23:32 PM#14

Could this possibly mean upgraded graphics since they are redoing mostly everything in Azeroth?

I mean, why not?

This could be a major factor in getting my subscription money, sorry to say, but I'm mostly only playing Aion for the innovative aeriel PvP and the pretty graphics.

But I'm an ex-vanilla player and will jump on that shit in an instant if they upgrade the graphics.

 

  karat76

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Joined: 8/22/06
Posts: 888

Greatest threat to society is letting casualties of puberty reproduce.

8/14/09 11:24:57 PM#15

Anything to make the game more appealling until ToR comes out.

  Thenarius

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Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 1114

 
8/14/09 11:25:18 PM#16
Originally posted by mrroboto40

Could this possibly mean upgraded graphics since they are redoing mostly everything in Azeroth?

I mean, why not?

This could be a major factor in getting my subscription money, sorry to say, but I'm mostly only playing Aion for the innovative aeriel PvP and the pretty graphics.

But I'm an ex-vanilla player and will jump on that shit in an instant if they upgrade the graphics.

 

Well, that would be a reason for them taking our comp specifications these days.
They should upgrade the graphics to be honest, WoW's starting to reach "way too outdated graphics" line.

  Axehilt

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Joined: 5/09/09
Posts: 4755

8/15/09 1:13:21 AM#17
Originally posted by logicbox9

Very cool idea... but I have to ask: What about people who don't buy the expansion? Are there going to "parallel worlds" on the server (i.e. instance for pre-cata and another for cata owners)?


 

That's a good question.

One way I could imagine them doing it is with their phasing tech.  Basically you have all the normal versions of the zones, then the level 90 versions after you trigger a quest (or whatever max level ends up being.)

Since it sounds like phased content is definite (as definite as any rumors can be at this point) then that might be how they keep non-expansion players separate.

  Xiaoki

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Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 1324

8/15/09 1:14:46 AM#18


Originally posted by Thenarius
As I said, Boubouille got some reliable inside sources 

The "reliable inside source" is a post on the Something Awful forums.

Trusting a source like that is like trusting a stranger with a gun in your mouth.

Blizzcon is in a week, we will know then.

  arctarus

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Joined: 9/26/06
Posts: 2140

8/15/09 1:18:49 AM#19

I loled at human hunter. But Tauren paladin is a nice addition...

 

 

RIP Orc Choppa

  Axehilt

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Joined: 5/09/09
Posts: 4755

8/15/09 1:28:33 AM#20
Originally posted by kopema

That all sounds like a giant load of crap.   1 part genuine information and 99 parts crack smoke.

If they actually did redo everything in the whole game, that would get me back in for a couple of months until I got bored with the new content.  But what about the millions of braindead hulks who get off on repeating the exact same quests a hundred times in a row?  No way in Hell Blizzard is going to upset that applecart.

If they were willing to make changes like this, they'd just feed them in over time so the game would stay interesting to the people who care about that sort of thing.  But replacing one treadmill with another?  That defeats the whole purpose of having a treadmill in the first place.  It'd take a giant amount of effort, and they'd probably lose more customers than they gained.


 

You drastically overrate how many people care about Retail WOW content.  It's over and done with, and nobody but a tiny minority of players would care if it's updated.

Only thing they might care about is all that effort spent on 1-60 content (which could've been manhours spent on content for everyones' level 80+ characters.)

  Rajen

Apprentice Member

Joined: 7/12/09
Posts: 699

8/15/09 1:29:49 AM#21

 Hmm all of this would be interesting, I just really don't know if I can resub to WoW again... I have resubbed in the past and 2-3 days later ended up bored and unsubbed =/

 

But yeah I think the ideas look pretty cool though.

  bonobotheory

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Joined: 4/30/06
Posts: 1018

Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.

8/15/09 2:12:51 AM#22

And then the Lich King will stab Frostmourne into the ground one final time, and the world will split in half. The Alliance will all move to one half, and the Horde will all move to the other half, and the interior of the world will be populated with giant robots (Goblins will get a bonus to Giant Robot faction). The leader of the giant robots will throw his magical robot-lasso into space and grab the moon, pulling it closer to Azeroth and opening a new Moon Zone for characters level 80 and above (except Goblins, who can go at any level because the robots love them so much).

All small pets will become playable races. Kittens can be paladins, cockroaches can be mages, snakes can be shamans, and chickens can be death knights.

After the Lich King's defeat, his armor will be scattered across the (now split in two) world, and be found by all of your favorite old-world NPCs. Van Cleef will find one of the boots, Hogger will find the codpiece, the helmet will land on the corpse of Mankrik's wife (raising her from the dead), and the gloves will be found by those two annoying little brats in Stormwind (the girl with the doll, and her brother who's always trying to take ti from her). These five will combine themselves, Voltron-style, into the new Lich King, who will lay waste to Goldshire just for kicks. The Ruins of Goldshire will become the new end-game raid dungeon.

Thrall will be a purchaseable mount.

  needalife214

Hard Core Member

Joined: 11/30/06
Posts: 1058

Big Bang happened. And life happened. Then you trolls somehow got here?

8/15/09 4:35:04 AM#23

so glad i am done with this game..........so damn glad

  Varny

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/14/09
Posts: 786

8/15/09 6:32:44 AM#24

Like I said in another thread is sounds like a WoW players dream to me, but that's all it'll be.

  MMO_Doubter

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/28/09
Posts: 5133

8/15/09 6:52:25 AM#25

The lack of any new classes pretty much kills any interest I would have. Not that I liked DKs very much.

 

I will make further observations as I go through the article.

 

1 - BE Warriors. So, they`re changing the BE racial AGAIN, or they just think it`s not OP for warriors now.

2 - "The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.". What's the point of that?

3 - "Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded." Goodbye to one of my favourite leveling areas: Shimmering Flats.

4 - "Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion." ANOTHER favourite area taken away from me.

5 - "Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents." This, at least, is a plus. Going back to Azeroth felt like a downgrade since you couldn't fly.

6 - "Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85." Sounds like trouble to me. Taking away the low-level dungeons for beginners and alts? RFC (my favourite dungeon in the game) will be gone with Orgrimmar. Sucks.

That is all.

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

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