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General Discussion  » Does Aion bring anything NEW to the table?

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Leucrotta

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8/14/09 1:09:03 PM#26
Originally posted by dracker92
Originally posted by TheStarheart
Originally posted by thamighty213

RVR PVP - DAOC


Ease to get into - WOW

Hard to master - EQ2

Art Style - L2

Char creation - SWG

Sense of community  - EQ

 

So NO absolutely nothing new but what it does bring is the best from other MMO's refines it and polishes it and spits it out in one neat tidy package.

 

Throw in PVPVE which IMO has never been done well and the flight and theres some extra tidbits there.

 

 

 

Also throw in the Crafting Work Order system from Vanguard,

Skill chains from various other games whether it be fighting games or MMO's,

and Aerial combat with flight...

 

I love it.


Okay Well Char creation is from there own Game CoH if anything but i would not even say that Aion has its own Char creation its the best one ever made I would say.

 

 

Cryptic made CoH, but ya the Character creation is one of the best to date

thamighty213

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8/14/09 1:09:18 PM#27
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by Derros
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by Violentsin

It's pretty :D

That's new and exciting right?

Aion in my opinion, still needs some depth. It is polished, game play is smooth (accept when getting up from sitting down to combat is a bit slow), but that's it. Is the game a failure? Absolutely not. It'll be interesting to see where Aion goes and what it does. But if you're looking for something new and innovative, Aion is not. Arial PvPvE is interesting. I could live without the flight timer. However, the game is worth checking out while in beta and you can form your own opinion.


 

GFX are subpar in this game.


 

what is considered par for MMO graphics?  not trying to argue against you, just curious.


 

Ummm...other mmo's. AoC, Eve online, etc. Aion gfx fail hard.

 

Yeah siege PVP on AOC is going well isnt it barley 50 people and it goes to hell in a handbag. 

 

Eve sucks ass its all 2d backdrops and the only thing you have to render is the ships themselves and particle effect's

 

Graphic's are great art style is great and the fact you can get to 200 v 200 PVP with no slowdown says it all.


twrule

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8/14/09 1:11:03 PM#28

It brings a solid game with the level of polish expected of a new generation AAA title that isn't simply trying to be WoW and has a community that isn't WoW's. 

It also has interesting features that may have been done before but not in this form or combination, like PvPvE raids where you fight the other faction through a dungeon for rights to kill the boss, RvR sieges with Baluar dreadgeon intervention (think star destroyer coming flying around dropping legions of enemies that both sides will have to team up to defend a fortress from), etc.  There is also aerial pvp, which promises to be interesting and different. 

A lot of people are attracted to Aion because it is doing things the opposite of Wotlk WoW in a lot of key ways (no class homogenization, level of difficulty, more incentive to group, pvp being a core feature rather than an afterthought, etc).  These aren't new, but old features people like that are getting harder to find in a polished game these days.

lornphoenix

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8/14/09 1:11:43 PM#29

Eve?

You don't compare a Space MMO to Fantasy MMO on graphics...
Eve looks great for it's age, that's for sure, but I couldn't even remotely compare it with Aion Graphic just because the styles are so different.

AoC is the only game that I would looks better, but I have the say Aion beats it on animations.
 

Derros

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8/14/09 1:11:52 PM#30
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by Derros
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by Violentsin

It's pretty :D

That's new and exciting right?

Aion in my opinion, still needs some depth. It is polished, game play is smooth (accept when getting up from sitting down to combat is a bit slow), but that's it. Is the game a failure? Absolutely not. It'll be interesting to see where Aion goes and what it does. But if you're looking for something new and innovative, Aion is not. Arial PvPvE is interesting. I could live without the flight timer. However, the game is worth checking out while in beta and you can form your own opinion.


 

GFX are subpar in this game.


 

what is considered par for MMO graphics?  not trying to argue against you, just curious.


 

Ummm...other mmo's. AoC, Eve online, etc. Aion gfx fail hard.

unfortunately games with that level of graphics that arent space based have, usually, harsh hardware requirements which limit the potential customer base.  I think Aion's look better than most of whats out there at the moment. 
 

Cyborg99

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8/14/09 1:12:03 PM#31
Originally posted by thamighty213
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by Derros
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by Violentsin

It's pretty :D

That's new and exciting right?

Aion in my opinion, still needs some depth. It is polished, game play is smooth (accept when getting up from sitting down to combat is a bit slow), but that's it. Is the game a failure? Absolutely not. It'll be interesting to see where Aion goes and what it does. But if you're looking for something new and innovative, Aion is not. Arial PvPvE is interesting. I could live without the flight timer. However, the game is worth checking out while in beta and you can form your own opinion.


 

GFX are subpar in this game.


 

what is considered par for MMO graphics?  not trying to argue against you, just curious.


 

Ummm...other mmo's. AoC, Eve online, etc. Aion gfx fail hard.

 

Yeah siege PVP on AOC is going well isnt it barley 50 people and it goes to hell in a handbag. 

 

Eve sucks ass its all 2d backdrops and the only thing you have to render is the ships themselves and particle effect's

 

Graphic's are great art style is great and the fact you can get to 200 v 200 PVP with no slowdown (on my beheamoth machine) says it all.

Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard.  AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting.
 

krityc

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8/14/09 1:13:40 PM#32

 Not so much, but it's a good change up for those tired of the 4yr old 800lb gorilla.

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seventy7l

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8/14/09 1:17:19 PM#33

Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard.  AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting.
 

Wait graphics are more important than gameplay?Odd opinion  but it is yours i just though people would appreciate polish and gameplay more.

Like pong i keep bouncing back and forth between games.

Soupism

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8/14/09 1:19:14 PM#34

"Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard. AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting."

 

I'm going to call you a liar. I think graphics are a bit farther down your "list".

But good griping just the same =)

TheStarheart

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8/14/09 1:19:42 PM#35

It's an interesting opinion that is without a doubt a minority.

 

Start a poll do you think Aion has fail gfx

yes

no

and I bet you will see more than 75% of people say No. (edit, I tricked myself and wrote Yes lol. I started a poll for you btw)

Not that I think the majority agreement is a good way to measure all issues, but in terms of aesthetics I would say it's a good way to tell when someone's just being a troll.

Do you think Aion has fail graphics?

Yes, Aion's graphics fail.
No, Aion has good graphics.
(login to vote)

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Cyborg99

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8/14/09 1:21:17 PM#36
Originally posted by seventy7l

Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard.  AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting.
 

Wait graphics are more important than gameplay?Odd opinion  but it is yours i just though people would appreciate polish and gameplay more.


 

Yea to me gfx are more important then gameplay. And this is why Aion fails in my book, because it has sh*t gfx. ( yes I maxed out Aion's gfx at 1900x1200 with a gtx295 and it still looks like updated wow gfx)

Cyborg99

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8/14/09 1:23:27 PM#37
Originally posted by TheStarheart

It's an interesting opinion that is without a doubt a minority.

 

Start a poll do you think Aion has fail gfx

yes

no

and I bet you will see more than 75% of people say No. (edit, I tricked myself and wrote Yes lol)

Not that I think the majority agreement is a good way to measure all issues, but in terms of aesthetics I would say it's a good way to tell when someone's just being a troll.

Lol calling me a troll because I have different gaming criteria then you, then I get to call you a rapid fanboi for defending such a junk game
 

seventy7l

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8/14/09 1:24:15 PM#38

 Ok atleast your honest i think.People have a right to voice their opinion good job being different!I personally like the graphics i have tolerance of how good or bad the graphics can be i am sure alot of people on this website do or could have.

Have a nice day everyone 1 hour 45 minutes til CB 6!

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spector75

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8/14/09 1:24:50 PM#39
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by seventy7l

Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard.  AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting.
 

Wait graphics are more important than gameplay?Odd opinion  but it is yours i just though people would appreciate polish and gameplay more.


 

Yea to me gfx are more important then gameplay. And this is why Aion fails in my book, because it has sh*t gfx. ( yes I maxed out Aion's gfx at 1900x1200 with a gtx295 and it still looks like updated wow gfx)

Then have fun in AoC... It will look pretty and play like crap. Just what you always wanted.

junitalia

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8/14/09 1:25:49 PM#40

Quite honestly, from what I've seen, it's simple yet has it's own flavor. Everyone's always looking for something to outdo WoW or some other game. Truth is, whenever a publisher tries to do something undone, people complain. So enjoy what you got and if you like it, good. If not, go back to your last game.


D|CE

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8/14/09 1:25:55 PM#41

Every time I am shopping for a new car, I ask myself: "Does this car, that I want to buy, bring anything new to the table?" And after spending several hours looking for 10 exhaust pipes and square wheels, I decide not to buy it. God damn it! Why can't they make a car with 5 square wheels instead of 4 round ones!?

Cyborg99

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8/14/09 1:26:07 PM#42

Look I played this game and its not that good, end of story.

Cyborg99

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8/14/09 1:27:33 PM#43
Originally posted by spector75
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by seventy7l

Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard.  AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting.
 

Wait graphics are more important than gameplay?Odd opinion  but it is yours i just though people would appreciate polish and gameplay more.


 

Yea to me gfx are more important then gameplay. And this is why Aion fails in my book, because it has sh*t gfx. ( yes I maxed out Aion's gfx at 1900x1200 with a gtx295 and it still looks like updated wow gfx)

Then have fun in AoC... It will look pretty and play like crap. Just what you always wanted.

Better then Aion looking like crap and playing like crap.
 

seventy7l

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8/14/09 1:29:58 PM#44
Originally posted by junitalia

Quite honestly, from what I've seen, it's simple yet has it's own flavor. Everyone's always looking for something to outdo WoW or some other game. Truth is, whenever a publisher tries to do something undone, people complain. So enjoy what you got and if you like it, good. If not, go back to your last game.

Well atleast NCsoft is only aiming for #2 spot i hope they do WoW doesn't need to be killed as long as people enjoy i have nothing against a game.Except *Cough darkfall Cough*

Edit:Also thanks for the great words! Well said.

Like pong i keep bouncing back and forth between games.

Prophecies

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8/14/09 1:30:46 PM#45
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by seventy7l

Lol wtf, I was talking about gfx and you start talking about gameplay. My top reasons for playing a game is gfx and thats why Aion fails hard.  AoC pwns Aion's WoW type gfx. Anyway this game is carebear with no ffa looting.
 

Wait graphics are more important than gameplay?Odd opinion  but it is yours i just though people would appreciate polish and gameplay more.


 

Yea to me gfx are more important then gameplay. And this is why Aion fails in my book, because it has sh*t gfx. ( yes I maxed out Aion's gfx at 1900x1200 with a gtx295 and it still looks like updated wow gfx)

Lol!

Sigged! The foolish mentality of most people here never ceases to astonish me.

Sovrath

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8/14/09 1:32:34 PM#46
Originally posted by dave6660

They have the class based system with the tank / healer / DPS paradigm.  There's levels to grind in a fantasy setting with some dungeons to explore.  PvP is thrown into the mix.  You can craft an item or ten.  The UI looks very familiar.  Their big selling point seems to be aerial combat.

What does it have to avoid that "been there, done that" feeling?


 

I think people misunderstand about the "somethign new" idea.

You will never get anything that is completely "new". There are always going to influences.

as far as Aion, it's more about how they work with the familair materials and what mix of things they use.

There is not one thing any of you listen to, watch, read, that is new. nothing. it's all same old same old. Movies, music, literature, art.

same formulas, same characters, same key signatures (and I doubt many of you listen to aleatoric or serialized music - which is also not new) same stories for books and movies and games.

But in the end we still experience and seek this stuff out. why? Because it's how these materials are redone so that they are familiar and also fresh.

For the person completely jaded by games like lotro or wow or eq 2 then you might not like this game. It's sort of a mix of lineage 2 and wow but "not".

but it doesn't have to be new as nothing is new.  It just has to speak to us on a level that we can appreciate.

So some will like it and some won't. end of story.

TheStarheart

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8/14/09 1:32:57 PM#47
Originally posted by Cyborg99
Originally posted by TheStarheart

It's an interesting opinion that is without a doubt a minority.

 

Start a poll do you think Aion has fail gfx

yes

no

and I bet you will see more than 75% of people say No. (edit, I tricked myself and wrote Yes lol)

Not that I think the majority agreement is a good way to measure all issues, but in terms of aesthetics I would say it's a good way to tell when someone's just being a troll.

Lol calling me a troll because I have different gaming criteria then you, then I get to call you a rapid fanboi for defending such a junk game
 

At least I'm defending a game I'm going to play. I've played tons of MMO's and the recent ones like AoC and WAR lack the polish and detail that I've seen in Aion.

 

I'm calling you a troll because if you're not going to play the game and you hang around in it's forums trying to convince people the graphics aren't good when they think otherwise...you're a troll.

 

Edit: The same thing applies for your argument on the game as a whole, go on a different forum trolly von trollenstein.

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8/14/09 1:34:20 PM#48

As long as it's fun, it's not too glitchy, and doesn't look like something put together as a side-project in someones basement, I'm happy.  So that'd rule out AoC, WAR and DF for me.  If it's marginally better than any of those, I'm ok. 

twrule

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8/14/09 1:36:02 PM#49

For those saying Aion has bad graphics, what are you comparing them to?  If comparing Aion to other MMO's the graphics are some of the best the market has to offer right now.  The only one I can think of potentially surpassing them would be AoC, but that would take twice the gaming rig you'd need to run Aion's (this is just personal experience but my comp runs AoC at max settings at about 15-20 fps max, and Aion at max settings at closer to 45-60).

Relampago

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8/14/09 1:39:17 PM#50
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by dave6660

They have the class based system with the tank / healer / DPS paradigm.  There's levels to grind in a fantasy setting with some dungeons to explore.  PvP is thrown into the mix.  You can craft an item or ten.  The UI looks very familiar.  Their big selling point seems to be aerial combat.

What does it have to avoid that "been there, done that" feeling?


 

In my opinion absolutely nothing.   Just my opinion mnind you.   LOL!   Wait for it, wait for it....they will come and you'll hear different...but the reality is - absolutely nothing.

Not sure what caused Teala to be such a negative nancy around this game but let me add to the chorus of answers.  From my perspective the game really doesnt bring anything new to the genre, however it appears to have done what it set out to do well, and is likely the most polished fantasy pvp style game on the market.

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