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General Discussion  » Will Aion fail just like WAR and AoC?

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8/13/09 11:08:48 PM#26

AOC is failing because of the CIA type hiding of information during beta and im serious we would make post about bugs or what is wrong and they would be gone 5 minutes later.  They didnt care what we said or did or bugged because they didnt care about tester feedback  this is why AOC failed after launch and yes I call losing 50% of your subscriptions failing.   Now the game has 300k probably still so it is a sucessful MMORPG but it failed its fan base with lies.   WAR lol i so seen it coming during beta and i told everyone who asked why it wouldnt have a high renew rate for people because it would get old fast and look what happen it got old.

Aion who knows if it has the lure to keep people playing.  In korea it does. in NA maybe or maybe not.

rr2real

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8/13/09 11:15:35 PM#27
Originally posted by Markn12

AOC is failing because of the CIA type hiding of information during beta and im serious we would make post about bugs or what is wrong and they would be gone 5 minutes later.  They didnt care what we said or did or bugged because they didnt care about tester feedback  this is why AOC failed after launch and yes I call losing 50% of your subscriptions failing.   Now the game has 300k probably still so it is a sucessful MMORPG but it failed its fan base with lies.   WAR lol i so seen it coming during beta and i told everyone who asked why it wouldnt have a high renew rate for people because it would get old fast and look what happen it got old.

Aion who knows if it has the lure to keep people playing.  In korea it does. in NA maybe or maybe not.

thank you 

grandpagamer

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8/13/09 11:16:11 PM#28

From what ive seen in the Aion beta it is in better shape than AOC was at release. Cant speak for Warhammer at release but as laggy as it was two weeks ago when my sub ended i would say Aion is in better shape than it was as well. If it will maintain a player base, i think it will , how big is another question that i dont think anyone can answer at this point.

It has to be true, i have internet links.

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8/13/09 11:22:49 PM#29

With aion you dont have to worry about the polish of the game.  It runs better then any game ive ever beta'ed period even on low end PCs.

Rhoklaw

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8/13/09 11:31:33 PM#30

I've played DAoC a lot...
I've played WoW a lot...
I've played LOTRO a lot ...
I've played Eve a lot...
I've played AoC a lot...
I've played WAR a lot...
I've played EQ2 a lot...
I've played SWG a lot...

So with that being said, all of that means absolutely nothing because even though I like Aion right now, it like many other games I've played COULD become a heaping pile of dung. However, I'm still liking it now and like the direction it's going with PvP. I can't stress this enough about Aion, but DAoC to me had thee best PvP style gameplay of any MMO I've ever played and Aion is looking very similar. DAoC never got boring because it was designed very well in the beginning. Mythic Entertainment made a decent first expansion, than puked out a worthless almost game wrecking second expansion. After that, DAoC almost made a comeback with classic servers. If Mythic hadn't allowed people to play on all realms for each server / cluster, I believe DAoC would still be going strong today. So as long as Aion doesn't screw up too much and get off the right track with their ongoing game development, it will do just fine for ooooh, I'm guessing 3 years. It will need to be re-reviewed after that time.

Goob

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8/13/09 11:37:59 PM#31

 

I had a really loud LOL at this.... hahahahha.

rr2real

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8/14/09 12:32:18 AM#32
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

I've played DAoC a lot...
I've played WoW a lot...
I've played LOTRO a lot ...
I've played Eve a lot...
I've played AoC a lot...
I've played WAR a lot...
I've played EQ2 a lot...
I've played SWG a lot...

So with that being said, all of that means absolutely nothing because even though I like Aion right now, it like many other games I've played COULD become a heaping pile of dung. However, I'm still liking it now and like the direction it's going with PvP. I can't stress this enough about Aion, but DAoC to me had thee best PvP style gameplay of any MMO I've ever played and Aion is looking very similar. DAoC never got boring because it was designed very well in the beginning. Mythic Entertainment made a decent first expansion, than puked out a worthless almost game wrecking second expansion. After that, DAoC almost made a comeback with classic servers. If Mythic hadn't allowed people to play on all realms for each server / cluster, I believe DAoC would still be going strong today. So as long as Aion doesn't screw up too much and get off the right track with their ongoing game development, it will do just fine for ooooh, I'm guessing 3 years. It will need to be re-reviewed after that time.

so your initial impression is better than yours with AoC or WAR?

t0yb0x

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8/14/09 12:42:46 AM#33


Originally posted by Dragonheart7

Originally posted by Trojanfresh

Originally posted by teco221

Originally posted by Cammy

Originally posted by teco221

It's very possible.  Even I am in 1.2 Chinese version now and I enjoy the game a lot, but there is a posiblity here.  After Honymoon period is over, peopel will start complaining.  Look EVE online as crapy as it is, there are still people playing, even WAR still have a lot of followers.  1.3.1 seems will trun the game around, so you never know.



 
ROFL - I hope your as sarcastic as I was in my post. 
 
EVE is a fantastic game if you take the time to learn how to play it. Its learning curve is very steep though... 
 
 


 When I am crafting in Aion, I play EVE in the back ground.
EVE is very easy,  it did not take me long to learn it.  Don't glorify the game.


Please tec. Eve is one of the hardest mmo's to learn. Again its not hard to learn being a carebear in high sec mining like a mindless drone. Everyone should listen to someone who plays a game in the background. Stay in high sec and off forums.



 
Off topic, but was this graph made by a 12 year old? Unless you're involved in some advanced physics, time shouldn't depend on anything.

It's from GraphJam: http://graphjam.com/upcoming/?pid=19602

And it's also meant as humour and not to be taken seriously.

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evilgreen5

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8/14/09 12:43:10 AM#34

The one reason I think this game will be successful is because it will no doubt have a smooth launch. Because of Aion's beta and launch in Asia, most of their beginning bugs and whatnot will be fixed by the time Aion rolls around in September. No memory leaks, plenty of content, great graphics on low end systems, virtually no bugs, and a very smooth interface will allow this game to succeed. I have not had a single problem during my time in Aion betas and look forward to its release.

The launch of an mmo is so crucial to its success, and if everything goes as smoothly as I've experienced in Aion betas, Aion is going to do great.

Torak

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8/14/09 12:44:25 AM#35
Originally posted by Goob

 

 

I had a really loud LOL at this.... hahahahha.

 

So did I

But

EVE is way over rated by it's cult members......err players.

 

 

Games, above all else, are about fun. MMORPG's are no different. If you are not having fun, find something else to do with your time and money and stop your bitchin.

Crosswire

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8/14/09 1:18:28 AM#36

Will Aion fail just like WAR and AoC?

 

At the moment taken from time in the game I would say yes, only difference I can see is that it will fail faster than AOC or Warhammer.  There will be less gripes about the game but many people may leave the game early never to return.

There again I would love to be proven wrong. :)

YamiOfHell

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8/14/09 1:33:26 AM#37

lmao nice graph... i think its obvious that its a joke considering it doesnt pass the vertical line test =] anyway... i think people who spend more time on mmos do get better at them.... honestly i'd expect a level 50 to be "better" than a level 10. just because it takes so much longer to get to max level

Netzoko

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8/14/09 1:36:07 AM#38

Aion will "fail" just like WAR and AoC because it really offers nothing new. Same old shit.

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Krytycal

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8/14/09 1:43:06 AM#39
Originally posted by Netzoko

because it really offers nothing new. Same old shit.

 

Yeah, just like WoW failed, amirite?

Auzy

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8/14/09 1:46:23 AM#40
Originally posted by Netzoko

Aion will "fail" just like WAR and AoC because it really offers nothing new. Same old shit.

 

...Except Aion is polished and already has more content.

 

World of Warcraft came out in 2004....stop talking about it already.

pleasenjoi93

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8/14/09 1:49:21 AM#41

It will not fail, it's already doing great in Asia,no? Hasn't it technically already not failed?

"...these forums are like soap operas"-Nihce

Zlayer77

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Start worrying about other players in a game and dont just play

8/14/09 1:54:57 AM#42
Originally posted by Torak
Originally posted by Goob

 

 

I had a really loud LOL at this.... hahahahha.

 

So did I

But

EVE is way over rated by it's cult members......err players.

 

 


 

The reason people say that EvE is hard is because you are always going up against a human opponent. In games like WoW, Warhammer and Lotro you spend 60-80% of your time against the AI. The AI can never replace the complexity of the human brain and its ability to adapt and find innovating solutions.

On topic yes, Aion will have a hard time breaking into the western market. Eastern game culture is wastly diffrent. And Aion is heavy on the item grind and highly competetive at the endgame. Fighting over Boss spawns is not something the Instance Raiders are used to. Only time will tell if they will embrace it or not.

Sovrath

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8/14/09 1:56:18 AM#43
Originally posted by Crosswire

Will Aion fail just like WAR and AoC?

 

At the moment taken from time in the game I would say yes, only difference I can see is that it will fail faster than AOC or Warhammer.  There will be less gripes about the game but many people may leave the game early never to return.

There again I would love to be proven wrong. :)


 

The problem here is that people aren't understanding the defnition of fail.

It hasn't failed. It's doing great. It has a HUGE following. Because of this NC's stocks have gone up quite a bit. Stocks don't go up on a failed game. And it's been out for almost a year now.

Just because people don't like it, no matter what their reasons and even no matter how valid those reasons are, the truth is that it is a success.

Will it have millions of subs in the West? I don't believe so. But it will do well enough for NC to continue putting money and effort into the game.

Conan Launced with issues, Warhammer, fun as I thought it was, had issues. Aion? Well, other than people not like it's gameplay, it's pretty stable. Some are having lag issues. And it's caught earlier enough for the preview events for them to look into it.

Whether people like the game or not, it's a financial success, and for those who enjoy it the game is a success.

Crosswire

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8/14/09 2:04:44 AM#44

I look at it like this.........

If AOC, Warhammer and Aion were all to go public on the same day, and I had to choose one game to play, then Aion would be my last choice.

MMO_Doubter

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8/14/09 2:07:05 AM#45
Originally posted by Zorgo

Considering neither AoC or WAR have failed...I'm confused about your point......

You mean will Aion have 150 to 300k subs thus being an average mmo?

Or do you mean that the mmo players who 'wish' that Aion will beat WoW in subs will fail in their attempt at predicting the future?

 

Unless you have VERY low standards, yes, Warhammer Online has failed.

spdkilla

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8/14/09 2:10:33 AM#46
Originally posted by Trojanfresh
Originally posted by teco221
Originally posted by Cammy
Originally posted by teco221

It's very possible.  Even I am in 1.2 Chinese version now and I enjoy the game a lot, but there is a posiblity here.  After Honymoon period is over, peopel will start complaining.  Look EVE online as crapy as it is, there are still people playing, even WAR still have a lot of followers.  1.3.1 seems will trun the game around, so you never know.

 

ROFL - I hope your as sarcastic as I was in my post. 

 

EVE is a fantastic game if you take the time to learn how to play it. Its learning curve is very steep though... 

 

 

 When I am crafting in Aion, I play EVE in the back ground.

EVE is very easy,  it did not take me long to learn it.  Don't glorify the game.

Please tec. Eve is one of the hardest mmo's to learn. Again its not hard to learn being a carebear in high sec mining like a mindless drone. Everyone should listen to someone who plays a game in the background. Stay in high sec and off forums.

 

LOL, this graph is +1 but, i see your graph and raise you this graph +2 pts.     http://mmodata.net/     click the top 10 link. 

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8/14/09 2:18:59 AM#47
Originally posted by Crosswire

I look at it like this.........

If AOC, Warhammer and Aion were all to go public on the same day, and I had to choose one game to play, then Aion would be my last choice.


 

Even with the bugs lack of content and overall shitty SHITTY standard AOC and WAR have shown to its fanbase ?   If i got to beta all 3 (and i did) id pick aion hands down.

 

Of course i didnt go into the beta thinking Aion is a PVE masterpiece because its a PVP game and always will be oriented for PVP if you dont like PVP games then thats you but some people do.

Oh and Aions target audience despite being a PVPVE game is not to capture the PVE players in wow, eq, eq2 or any other PVE oriented game, but it may get some of them players it wont take many of them at all for very long.   Fact is this is a PVP game it will get players from other PVP games maybe people who PVP in wow dont like it anymore or from other PVP games.   If this game gets 1 mil NA players id be suprised as hell because it is a niche game that it will catter to the PVP crowd end game and that is what most will see and well PVE players wont like it and will leave.

Crosswire

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8/14/09 2:22:09 AM#48
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Crosswire

Will Aion fail just like WAR and AoC?

 

At the moment taken from time in the game I would say yes, only difference I can see is that it will fail faster than AOC or Warhammer.  There will be less gripes about the game but many people may leave the game early never to return.

There again I would love to be proven wrong. :)


 

The problem here is that people aren't understanding the defnition of fail.


 

I would say that the game has failed when the company behind the game starts to pull money and resources away from the game.

 

The thing with Aion is the timing.  It is being released at a time were most people are looking for something new to play.

User Deleted
8/14/09 2:23:41 AM#49
Originally posted by Crosswire
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Crosswire

Will Aion fail just like WAR and AoC?

 

At the moment taken from time in the game I would say yes, only difference I can see is that it will fail faster than AOC or Warhammer.  There will be less gripes about the game but many people may leave the game early never to return.

There again I would love to be proven wrong. :)


 

The problem here is that people aren't understanding the defnition of fail.


 

I would say that the game has failed when the company behind the game starts to pull money and resources away from the game.

 

The thing with Aion is the timing.  It is being released at a time were most people are looking for something new to play.


 

Sounds familar kind of like when WOW came out.  People were looking to try something new after SOE royally fucked eq in the ass.

Ironacolyte

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8/14/09 2:33:14 AM#50

Very low standards? Prior to World of Warcraft, a 300k subscriber base WAS the benchmark for a successful MMO.

I mean, who doesn't want to rake in 4.5 million dollars a month?

Expenses aside, that's still a lot of cash.

Your first MMO was probably WoW so you have no real perspective.

In conclusion, just because a game isn't as rabidly successful as WoW doesn't make it a failure.

Apparently though, in your opinion it does.

 

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