Originally posted by Toothman

While there are a number of things that I wish had stayed in SWG the game is better than it ever has been.  Anyone who says differently needs to grow up and learn to play games without exploiting.   Why does it keep getting reviewed?  Two reasons.  It has changed and rechanged more than any MMO in history.  And all the doom and gloom whiners can't understand why it keeps hanging in there.  The answer is because there is nothing else out there like it.  Nor does it appear that there will be any time soon.   The Bioware title looks so weak I'll be amazed if its not losing subs after 6 months.   As for WoW its still the hand holding title of the year for whiney maladjusted children who like poorly animated cartoons and need devs to tell them what to do because thinking on their own is too much work.  Title reviewed, let it go.

LOLOLOLOL, ok ok I'm fine wait LOLOLOL, did you really play in the "glory days"?  I don't even know what to say to your comments except have some more of that delicious kool aid.

I read this re-review with the hope of some fresh eyes and experiances on SWG.  This is just another bais vets rant on what the game was and how the CU and the NGE impacted it.  He doesn't even get facts straight.  Example:

"All active subscriptions get two or three booster packs a month for free but if you really want these items you will have to buy some cards."

All active accounts get 5 free packs of the current expansion.  This is 5 chances at Rare or Loot cards from the card game.  The downside of this is those cards are no trade to only characters of that account.

I have seen plenty of "this game use to be good" posts.  Theres a whole section here with them.  I didn't need one with a rating score attached.  I want to know what does a virgin player think of this game who doesn't have our taint  An honest re-review of the systems today.

Hell, I could have gone down to my local Game Stop and got this reveiw in 2 minutes.

Chris Higgins' final thought .....

" While this game will never beat its own high water mark and with Bioware doing a new Star Wars game I think it is only a matter of time for SWG. SOE is focusing on the current players and their needs and wants so SWG is still getting quite a bit of attention but the game now cannot hold a candle to what it once was."

...sums SWG's current status accurately.

Never mind

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by BlackWatch

SWG is still alive because of the 'Star Wars' name and because there are 'Star Wars' fans.  The game itself is terrible...

 

The game has always been terrible and only got by on teh star wars name, the only decent thing in it before was the class system, unless you like grinding out proff after proff.

 

 

 

 I think you will find you are in a very small minority, calling the original SWG 'terrible'. Certainly there were many bugs that needed fixing and all the professions needed balancing, but, still, 250,000 people were still playing three years after launchg. Before WoW, that would have made SWG the largest MMO in North America.

Originally posted by JYCowboy
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I have seen plenty of "this game use to be good" posts.  Theres a whole section here with them.  I didn't need one with a rating score attached.  I want to know what does a virgin player think of this game who doesn't have our taint  An honest re-review of the systems today.

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I'd be interested in that as well.

I have not played a better game since SWG pre NGE.  I have not played a worse game since SWG NGE. Thats basically my review...

lol this is entertaining

forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m

Originally posted by tillamook

lol this is entertaining

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The fanboys there don't seem to like the review.  A single tear runs down my cheek just for them.

I was suprised that this game merited a review being that it's 6 years old; game changes non withstanding. I played SWG until a little bit after the CU and never came back.  I downloaded the trial for 14 days -created a character on Starsider since the server list said it was populated and uninstalled the game 24 hours afterwards. I thought the game was a waste of time,  but if people like it then more power to them.

Originally posted by Darksix

I have not played a better game since SWG pre NGE.  I have not played a worse game since SWG NGE. Thats basically my review...

Originally posted by Zorvan

Well, it still scored better than Darkfall. Guess that's something.

Thats not saying much really. 

I don't think any game thats been reviewed here has been under 6 so 6 seems to be lowest a score a game can get at mmorpg.com.  Read into that what you will.

Originally posted by Leeky

i feel its a fair and honest re-review.

I played since launch, quit when the nge hit, like 90% of the people i knew on eclipse. I went back at the begining of this year and whilst i enjoyed leveling a few pets using the new BM system, it wasnt a patch on Creature Handler and simply comes across as a tired, confused game. My anger towards SOE has subsided, i still miss precu/cu SWG and everyone that i met playing it and its still a deciding factor when buying a game, namely is it run by SOE?

Leeky,

What was your toon name on Eclipse?

The reviewer totally missed the inferior techincal quality of the game in his review. The bugs, the lag, the NPCs shooting through walls/hills/trees. The crappy chat tool that barely worked (don't know if it works now).

Also not addressed was how lousy it is to start the game as a new player and grind all the way up with the currently (or as of the last vet trial 10 days ago or so) ruined economy. Unless the new players buys credits, that is.

Also not adressed in the re-review was how much ridiculous non-canon crap the current "new content" always seems to be. Did anyone see any pink ewoks in any of the movies? How about people running around with angel's wings on the back? Zombies? I must have missed those in the movies too, and yes, those are planned for the game.

All of which warrant a further downgrade of the 6.8 rating.

5.8 maybe.

Originally posted by demented669

Originally posted by Darksix

I have not played a better game since SWG pre NGE.  I have not played a worse game since SWG NGE. Thats basically my review...

 

Me too

For such a controversial game, that was a pretty balanced review I think.  It was a good read.  I think the CU created its share of bitterness too, but it's true that this was eclipsed by the NGE.

I would like to add a cautionary note to new players about the loot you might want to try to get by buying Trading Cards.  Some people drop large cash on these, hoping to get specific items, and they never actually get them.  It seems a bit like a scratch and win...or more likely lose...that you have to pay real cash for.  It's probably safer for your visa bill to just get the cards that come with your subscription. 

Also, the game tends to change a lot, in unexpected ways, in my experience.  So it might also help to not get attached to what you enjoy.  Also leave your preconceptions about the StarWars universe for this time period at the door.  You know, ewoks with cherub wings and hundreds of jedi running around killing zombies don't remind me of the story I grew up with. 

SWG Pre-cu COME BACK PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I MISS YOU :( :( :(

this game needs to be put down. They made a great game into a steamy pile. played since launch. became a jedi. everything i played for down the crapper. horrible experience.

I played SWG from Launch almost daily up until I cancelled my sub after 3 years. The game was very good after the release of the second expansion, Jump to Lightspeed being the first and the "Wookie" world being the 2nd. From there on the game just got worse and worse in regards to the franschise of Star Wars. By the time I left, it was no longer Star Wars but some game dressed up to LOOK like Star Wars. The fun had goine out of the thing. That is not to say that the mechanics didn't work or that you could have made it into some ofther MMO. Everything you needed to make some other MMO was there. But since the game had so much promise before the radical changes and the game just will never be the same. I am holding out for SW:TOR Online although I know it too will not be up to the early SWG experience. It will probably be much better then SWG today.

Why bother reviewing a dead game?  Hardly enough on the populated servers to get a group going...

Someone said it perfectly.

This game is only around because it got 'Star Wars' in the title.

If it was called 'Sun Battle Galaxies' this game would have shut down in 2006.

I went into this game a fews months ago with the FREE vet time and it even made me more upset as a returning vet.

The only place I saw people in the game - Mos Eisleys Cantina and Restuss - .. On the Chilastra server.

If your starting SWG now as a newbie, I can see you liking it, however, you will still say, where is everyone?

To sum things up: If you really, really need to play a Star Wars MMO, this is our only option until TOR comes out. If you can wait, don't bother with SWG.

Like I said this re-review could have been writtne by anyone who has not even played the game, so again I will say that this was a very bad re-review as it didn't say anything about the game other then a very limited view about the game aswell many things that simply are not true, but of course can be true seeing how limited some people play these games.

Shame that people can not be honost anymore, oh wait bashing games is the new way of honost. And speaking half truths is somehow honost these day's.

Also a shame that certain vets felt the re-review was good, kinda makes me wonder how those vets played back in the day.

Originally posted by Reklaw

Like I said this re-review could have been writtne by anyone who has not even played the game, so again I will say that this was a very bad re-review as it didn't say anything about the game other then a very limited view about the game aswell many things that simply are not true, but of course can be true seeing how limited some people play these games.

Shame that people can not be honost anymore, oh wait bashing games is the new way of honost. And speaking half truths is somehow honost these day's.

Also a shame that certain vets felt the re-review was good, kinda makes me wonder how those vets played back in the day.

I have to say as a rereview it's not right to have a vet do it.

Im a vet launch till NGE returned 18 month later and played till a month ago I would score SWG as a new player experience a 8 its a all round decent game HOWEVER as a vet it just always leaves that bad taste in your mouth whenever you hit something that brings back a nostalgic feeling.

eg If I went Krayt killing now I would probably come write a rereview and score it a 4 however if I was a first time player I would be in awe at the graveyard and the sheer danger of it and score SWG higher.

Is it the best game out there Nope

Is it a patch on Pre CU Nope

Is it a patch on pre NGE Nope

Is it a decent game for a new player to pick up Yes

Originally posted by thamighty213

Originally posted by Reklaw

Like I said this re-review could have been writtne by anyone who has not even played the game, so again I will say that this was a very bad re-review as it didn't say anything about the game other then a very limited view about the game aswell many things that simply are not true, but of course can be true seeing how limited some people play these games.

Shame that people can not be honost anymore, oh wait bashing games is the new way of honost. And speaking half truths is somehow honost these day's.

Also a shame that certain vets felt the re-review was good, kinda makes me wonder how those vets played back in the day.

 

I have to say as a rereview it's not right to have a vet do it.

 

Im a vet launch till NGE returned 18 month later and played till a month ago I would score SWG as a new player experience a 8 its a all round decent game HOWEVER as a vet it just always leaves that bad taste in your mouth whenever you hit something that brings back a nostalgic feeling.

 

eg If I went Krayt killing now I would probably come write a rereview and score it a 4 however if I was a first time player I would be in awe at the graveyard and the sheer danger of it and score SWG higher.

 

Is it the best game out there Nope

Is it a patch on Pre CU Nope

Is it a patch on pre NGE Nope

Is it a decent game for a new player to pick up Yes

How are they going to attract new players?  They ONLY market to former players.  Ever wonder why that is?