Originally posted by Smikis

Originally posted by Theocritus

     It will be interesting to see if FUncom can actually have a decent launch for once......Both AO and AoC have been among the worst launches in MMO history.

 

what? aoc had one of best launches in history , servers were up 24/7, there were no lags, everything was working , maybe you should get your facts straight, if game wasnt big success doesnt mean everything about it failed..

i was even playing early start, ( every mmo now have oen with preorder ) was as smooth as butter, war launch wasnt anywhere near as good as aoc, and war launch was decent..

 What are you talking about? The only that did work in AOC luanch was the netowrking,  The bank didn't work for weeks, the collectors edition that i bought , and got a cloak for a drinking pvp game that never worked.   Having good networking and a 40% made game isn't a great luanch..     Crazyness

Originally posted by Teiman

 Age of Conan problems are not because the premature launch, but because is a linear MMO.  And linearity games don't have replayability. Son once the people have experimented the game, move to something else.   Since there was a lack of content on latest levels, people started quitting before cap, but this is not a big difference to people quitting on cap.  Maybe even was better, since a abrupt end is more brutal than the "lets meet reality" of a soft end. 

Another thing that made or unmade a game are the patches.  The patches of AoC clearly pushed the wrong side of the game: more linearity.  Adding invisible walls and the like to the game.  

AoC is a game that I do recomend to some people, but not for long playtimes.

So your telling me the 80's running around with no cities working and no pvp working is not a premature launch?   Also no DirectX 10 , which again is false advertisment isn't premature?? wierd wonder what premature to you is like 10 % finished game? lol

It's called the edit button. Go molest it.

 Nor is it to be thought that man is either the oldest or the last of earth's masters, or that the common bulk of life and substance walks alone. The Old Ones were, the Old Ones are, and the Old Ones shall be. Not in the spaces we know, but between them, They walk serene and primal, undimensioned and to us unseen. Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They have trod earth's fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread. By Their smell can men sometimes know Them near, but of Their semblance can no man know, saving only in the features of those They have begotten on mankind; and of those are there many sorts, differing in likeness from man's truest eidolon to that shape without sight or substance which is Them. They walk unseen and foul in lonely places where the Words have been spoken and the Rites howled through at their Seasons. The wind gibbers with Their voices, and the earth mutters with Their consciousness. They bend the forest and crush the city, yet may not forest or city behold the hand that smites. Kadath in the cold waste hath known Them, and what man knows Kadath? The ice desert of the South and the sunken isles of Ocean hold stones whereon Their seal is engraven, but who hath seen the deep frozen city or the sealed tower long garlanded with seaweed and barnacles? Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly. Iä! Shub-Niggurath! As a foulness shall ye know Them. Their hand is at your throats, yet ye see Them not; and Their habitation is even one with your guarded threshold. Yog-Sothoth is the key to the gate, whereby the spheres meet. Man rules now where They ruled once; They shall soon rule where man rules now. After summer is winter, and after winter summer. They wait patient and potent, for here shall They reign again

Funcom be afraid be very afraid, The OLD Ones will not let you defaul their names.....with another failed MMO.

Originally posted by Smikis

Originally posted by Theocritus

     It will be interesting to see if FUncom can actually have a decent launch for once......Both AO and AoC have been among the worst launches in MMO history.

 

what? aoc had one of best launches in history , servers were up 24/7, there were no lags, everything was working , maybe you should get your facts straight, if game wasnt big success doesnt mean everything about it failed..

i was even playing early start, ( every mmo now have oen with preorder ) was as smooth as butter, war launch wasnt anywhere near as good as aoc, and war launch was decent..

A release is more than just how well the game runs.  It doesn't matter if the client runs smooth as butter if the game is missing and lacking large chunks.  No dx10, itemization was meaningless, gems broken, pvp broken, cities broken, large swaths of content with not enough to do, empty/broken dungeons.  There was so much that didn't work or was missing it obviously had an effect on the games release status.

You can't say a game had one of the most successful launches in history when at the very same time it held the record for steepest decline in player population during that same period.  Conan was losing hundreds of thousands of players at a time.  When a game is forced to close and merge servers within the first year it cannot possibly be considered a great launch, let alone one of the most successful in history. 

AoC started dieing the first month it was released and the future of the game is really uncertain at this point.  Company heads were being fired inside of the first year.  Funcom is already talking about the possibility of changing it to a free to play model.  If that doesn't spell out failure I don't know what does.

I am really hoping for funcom to not repeat the mistakes in secret world, but their history so far gives me no reason to not expect more of the same.  Funcom is in the position that they need to prove themselves and deserve no benefit of the doubt.   I don't know what they say about fool me thrice, but I'm sure it isn't good.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Maybe if you guys (OP) actually tried to read the background behind this game, then you won't keep creating these FAIL topics.

That would be like asking a blind man to see. The OP is an idiot.

Originally posted by law573

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Maybe if you guys (OP) actually tried to read the background behind this game, then you won't keep creating these FAIL topics.

 

That would be like asking a blind man to see. The OP is an idiot.

You realy got me with that one.... Dosent change the fact that Failcom should stay away from MMOs period, think it might get realy Ugly for them when they mess up a third time... Whats the saying now? yes  "three strikes and your are OUT!"

Originally posted by Zlayer77

Originally posted by law573

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Maybe if you guys (OP) actually tried to read the background behind this game, then you won't keep creating these FAIL topics.

 

That would be like asking a blind man to see. The OP is an idiot.

 

You realy got me with that one.... Dosent change the fact that Failcom should stay away from MMOs period, think it might get realy Ugly for them when they mess up a third time... Whats the saying now? yes  "three strikes and your are OUT!"

Yeah, but they missed so bad on AOC it should almost count as 2 strikes.   How can you sell a million boxes the first 3 months,and 6 months later have 100k subscribers?

Originally posted by Alandora

Originally posted by Zlayer77

Originally posted by law573

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Maybe if you guys (OP) actually tried to read the background behind this game, then you won't keep creating these FAIL topics.

 

That would be like asking a blind man to see. The OP is an idiot.

 

You realy got me with that one.... Dosent change the fact that Failcom should stay away from MMOs period, think it might get realy Ugly for them when they mess up a third time... Whats the saying now? yes  "three strikes and your are OUT!"

 

Yeah, but they missed so bad on AOC it should almost count as 2 strikes.   How can you sell a million boxes the first 3 months,and 6 months later have 100k subscribers?

Ya gotta love mmorpg.com. Home of the rebel without a clue

Originally posted by law573

Originally posted by Alandora

Originally posted by Zlayer77

Originally posted by law573

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Maybe if you guys (OP) actually tried to read the background behind this game, then you won't keep creating these FAIL topics.

 

That would be like asking a blind man to see. The OP is an idiot.

 

You realy got me with that one.... Dosent change the fact that Failcom should stay away from MMOs period, think it might get realy Ugly for them when they mess up a third time... Whats the saying now? yes  "three strikes and your are OUT!"

 

Yeah, but they missed so bad on AOC it should almost count as 2 strikes.   How can you sell a million boxes the first 3 months,and 6 months later have 100k subscribers?

 

Ya gotta love mmorpg.com. Home of the rebel without a clue

Law573 when funcom has screwed over its customers a 3rd time what will you dudes do? Who will you fire then? What miracle patches will you offer your subcribers?

Never forget Never forgive...

Is this the new bash and comment on games not release yet based on assumtions and speculations? Did you people already leave Star Wars Old Republic to bash?

All I see is people full of hate and no possitive angles at all, and they think developers can make a game based on what 1 person thinks (Ignorant and sellfish)

Who are these people bashing game that they read 5 lines in a text about the game and seen artwork from, i really wanna know. Because these people should spend more time reading books and get smarter before commenting on this forum. Insted of making a fool of themselves.

If there is a new idea about games it shouldnt be posted here because the developers hardly read any post or threads about it on a freelance site. They read from their website, so go there and post.

Also the forums here should be used for people that accually "PLAYED" the games they talk crap and whine about. So the site is used for what its there for.

A wise man ones said :  'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

At least this thread led me to look at TSW...  hmmmm,  skill based, no classes, no levels, let's hope that 3 times is the charm for Funcom!  I would really like this premise to come through.

I really dont care what game they are making, I havent read one thing about The Secret World, all I care about is that its Failcom that is making it. 

Think many people with me just dont like them. They lied and manipulated to milk out the last of its comunity. And its still the same people behind this game. One thing that  irritated me to no end was when Erling Ellingsen, during an interview about Age of conan, and what they were going to do to fix it. Started to talk and promote the secret world. This behavior showed alot of disrespect for the people playing Age of conan. You would think a developer would fix its current game before advertising a new one. But no not Funcom, the game wasnt even 6 months old and they are making another mmo, how dumb can you get?

I will tell you that  I have ZERO confidence in Failcom, they are one of the worst developers in this genre. And im not alone in thinking that they might be better off doing something ells.....

Originally posted by patrikd23

Is this the new bash and comment on games not release yet based on assumtions and speculations? Did you people already leave Star Wars Old Republic to bash? We are not bashing the game we are Bashing the developers Funcom. Same as if I don’t like how Coca Cola are doing business, If I decide to boycott their products I really don’t care if its Sprite of fanta…..now do I?

All I see is people full of hate and no possitive angles at all, and they think developers can make a game based on what 1 person thinks (Ignorant and sellfish) Well my standpoint is that this particular developer should not be making any games period.

Who are these people bashing game that they read 5 lines in a text about the game and seen artwork from, i really wanna know. Because these people should spend more time reading books and get smarter before commenting on this forum. Insted of making a fool of themselves. I haven’t even read five lines about this game, I do however have vast experience with funcom, being part of their closed betas months before release. And I can tell you that many at Funcom need a serious reality check. Everything that went wrong with Age of Conan was pointed out in the Closed beta. Did they listen NOOO… Do they deserve to fool hundreds of thousand of consumers again Hell NO!

If there is a new idea about games it shouldnt be posted here because the developers hardly read any post or threads about it on a freelance site. They read from their website, so go there and post. These post are not for the Developers its addressed to my fellow consumers. If I buy a faulty dishwasher, and I get bad costumer service, promised repairs that never happen, refusal to get a refund. I will as a responsible person inform others that they should not buy products from that manufacturer. This falls under the same category. I’m telling people that Funcom have screwed over their player base twice before, and they are now going for strike three.

Also the forums here should be used for people that accually "PLAYED" the games they talk crap and whine about. So the site is used for what its there for. We are not talking about the GAME, we are talking about the company, its like sprite and fanta, if we boycott Coca Cola we are not going to drink those either.

A wise man ones said : 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.

A wise man also said: ‘Fool me once shame on you; Fool me twice shame on me.

I guess the key here now is to follow the whole "Ignorance is bliss" routine. The people that made the TLJ games (Great motherf****ing games by the way)... are making TSW.  But it's still Funcom... so it's gonna fail... yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa >.>

I would just wait until TSW comes out, before spewing ignorant crap... like some of you are.

I'm not a big fan of Funcom myself, but jesus get over it.

Things are running smooth it seems. Now lets review the sequence.

1. New Failcom game in development.

2. Fanatics will defend the game under the defense
A. fc will learn from past mistakes (see pages of aoc threads)
B. fc will change their ways. (see pages of aoc threads)
C. lets not judge fc on past actions/games (see pages of aoc threads)

3. Game is released. Fools spend money and get burned. The game is released in half ass condition. Features not included as advertised. Game is full of bugs and issues.

4.FC laughs as you all fell for hype lies and propaganda.

See you in the next Fc development cycle.

Let's see:

Ragnar Tornquist > Gaute
Gaute = Failcom
Ragnar Tornquist =/= Failcom/AoC/AO

Gaute =/= Ragnar Tornquist
Failcom =/= Funcom
Secret World =/= AoC/AO

Secret World = Ragnar Tornquist
Ragnar Tornquist = WIN
H.P.Lovecraft = EPIC
Secret World = Ragnar Tornquist + H.P.Lovecraft
Secret World = EPIC WIN

Yes, thats all. Seriously, the game development team is entirelly different from AoC and AO...but I guess some people are too dumb to realise that same company has more than one different team behind the various games, thus quality standards can't be set by two FAIL mmos they created.

Not to mention that Ragnar Tornquist = WIN.

I mean seriously, how the mind which created the Longest Journey could fail? -_-

 i just love these forums, so many hatewars for a game that is in early developement, 31 year olds getting pissed at FC.. WTG!!

all i can say is wait for it to be released, then judge it, dont be a fool and buy into hype

Originally posted by Yuui
Yes, thats all. Seriously, the game development team is entirelly different from AoC and AO...but I guess some people are too dumb to realise that same company has more than one different team behind the various games, thus quality standards can't be set by two FAIL mmos they created.

What you and the legions of fanbois consistently ignore is that the issues behind the horrible launch and life cycle of AO and the extremely subpar launch of AoC are *management* issues, not problems with a specific dev or dev team. It's about the way FC operates and does business, not one poor schmuck of a coder messing up.

However, I am with the poster just above...clearly the vast majority of the MMO market will not learn. We're going to see exactly the same cycle of overhype, overpromised dreck defended by the rabid fanbois up until another lackluster launch and then excused by them afterwards yet again.

I was the same, but honestly the Longest Journey was a badass game and I do have faith in Ragnar.  As long as Funcom doesn't push it out early and broken it could be somethign really great.