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8/09/09 9:47:46 PM#151
worst community, Tyranny server Age of Conan (cimmeria server is much better) best: meneldor Lotro |
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8/09/09 9:55:26 PM#152
Worst Community - EQ. Killstealers, trainers, and ninja looters galore. Oasis chat = Barrens chat. People charged for buffs, rezzes, and other things that were easy to hand out. This made for selfish people unwilling to help anyone. I think all the jerks in EQ made a nice home in WoW(which would be EQ's successor in douche's per sq. mile). Best Community - DAoC. Just awesome people that used to play that game. Most people always lent a hand. Drive by rezzes if you died, and used to get buffed all the time. |
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Originally posted by brostyn
Hehe ya I remember charging for rezzes on my cleric which was my first toon to hit 50.PRE KUNARK.. It would be amazing I would get about average 10 to 20 tells an hour of people asking me if I would travel across the game world to rez them. Now if someone was in the same zone as me and I was hunting.. I would get tells asking if they could get their corpses to me if I would rez them and I was like sure. Then I wouldnt charge for a rez.. but usually people would donate. What you might not have realized is that some of our buffs actually cost us EXPENSIVE gems to cast.. That is one of the reasons people would donate or we would charge.. One of my friend who played a druid had to stay anon or Roleplay so he wouldnt get 20 to 50 tells an hour with people asking if not begging for ports... I actually liked the fact that classes in EQ had abilities that were unique to their class and helpful outside of combat.. I think most games are missing those utility types of spells these days in favor of what some would say balance... But many of those abilities are what make fantasy worlds magical. And like ANY service provided dont see a reason why you cant decide to make a profit off of it.. IF its a service thats in demand. Also many of the spells in EQ at higher level were EXTREMELY hard to come by. It wasnt like in most modern games when at all levels you just go to the local trainer and train up. I knew people who would take donations for KEI in Plane of Knowledge so that they could make money to buy the spells they needed off of players who had them for sell because they were expensive.. Community though is not the same as Economy. EQ1 had a VERY VERY vibrant Economy. There were not only tradeskills but actual class skills that could be sold.. I actually loved that aspect of the game. |
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8/09/09 10:42:15 PM#154
Best: Lord of the Rings Online |
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8/09/09 10:43:53 PM#155
Originally posted by brostyn
In the classic EQ days buffing people cost plat gems did not come free to anyone. Now days they cost nothing to cast :)
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8/09/09 10:50:15 PM#156
Best: Anarchy Online I'd have to say that is about right. I actually was tempted on placing down Lineage II for best, because I love competitive communities. I'm sure some people can't stand it, but I love all of the trash talk and forum warrioring :D. Still, Anarchy Online was an amazing experience in community for me. I joined the game when it had the fr00b deal, and needless to say I was confused. I actually had someone stop by and start talking to me. He told me about implants, how to use them and all of these other things. He than actually bought me some implants, told me how to put them on, what was good... I mean he seriously spent a solid 30 minutes of his time helping out a poor old fr00b :). It's a good thing too, I probably would have gotten frustrated with the game otherwise.
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8/09/09 11:26:57 PM#157
WOW & WOW It has fantastic people and the lowest of the dregs all rolled into one. |
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RamenThief7
Novice Member
Joined: 5/13/09
Undefeatability lies within ourselves. Defeatability lies with the enemy. |
8/10/09 12:19:18 AM#158
Originally posted by Azntranc3
Underlined Part: I used to play Silkroad Online, but it ultimately has been destroyed. Bots fill up 90% of servers (both gold farmers/seller and user controlled), the GMs are untrustworthy and care about money more than you, and the forums became filled with angry and violent people (well, counting ones that ranted non-intellectual posts). Silkroad Online's original community (during the times when the level cap was before 90) was nice, and the group-oriented gameplay was very fun. You also couldn't really be an asshat during that time, because word would get around quickly and you would find soon enough why people refused to party with you. However, then bots started showing in masses, GMs stopped monitoring their forums carefully (to the point where some posts were downright racist, yet were never deleted or editted by the GMs), and the community went to hell. There are some good people left, but ultimately many of them left. |
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8/10/09 12:40:55 AM#159
Best: Tough one. I've played quite a few games with great communities, although most of them only for a short period of time. One of the best was the community on UO's Siege Perilous shard a few years ago, although that shard died off eventually and the same can't be said for it at all anymore. Vanguard's was pretty good, AO isn't too bad, FFXI is pretty good. Generally I find that games with smaller playerbases tend have better communities, either because it's more personal or because they know pushing players away risks potential failure of the game they play. When you have a huge playerbase, you just don't have the personal connection with the other players so there's no real incentive to go out of your way to be friendly to them (except in the case of AO, which rewards you mechanically for helping low level characters). Worst: Guild Wars, hands down. I played it for a few months, and while the arenas and AB battles were fun for a while, I never -once- had anything good to say about the community. I was in a guild with a few of my friends, but outside that... Horrible, horrible interactions, especially when you beat other players which apparently makes you a noob in that game and I was playing it wrong all along. How foolish of me. Of course, I've had some bad experiences in other games, but I've never played a game besides GW where I felt like over 95% of the playerbase consisted of horrible miscreants. I find a lot of F2P games tend to have less diserable playerbases due to the fact that the average age of the players is lower than games which require subscriptions, although it's not always the case thankfully. |
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RamenThief7
Novice Member
Joined: 5/13/09
Undefeatability lies within ourselves. Defeatability lies with the enemy. |
8/10/09 12:51:09 AM#160
Ah, I forgot to mention my best and worst communities I've seen. Best: FF XI Reason: First off, I must state that I actually only played FF XI for about an hour (a friend owned the game). And that one hour was magical. I also have been shadowing the game for a very long time, and the community I've seen was beautiful. It encourage team work (it is a hardcore group game), was friendly to the average noob, and asshats were reported quickly to ruin that person's chances of being with a party anytime soon. A beautiful community it was, and I hope to see that in FF XIV (of course, SE didn't realize that when they tried attracting the casual and soloist communities to FF XIV that we would see less of a nice community than before). Honorable mention: Silkroad Online before the level cap 90 came out and bots weren't rampant at the time. Was somewhat similar to FF XI's community (though asshats were existant in the game). Bots weren't rapid, you could trust the GMs at the time because they kept catering to the fans, all the nice things basically. Worst: Silkroad Online when the level cap 90 came out and bots became rampant. Basically, the community went to hell (simply read my previous post for more thoughts on this).
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8/10/09 12:57:46 AM#161
I played FFXI for 6+ years and the best help and good attitude were the japanese players, I got all kind of shit and drama from na players. Now I'm playing rom and for my supprise every single time I ask for help in /zone I get help right away it's amazing. When I was playing wow I felt bad playing online the wow players are the worst in he world. |
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8/10/09 1:11:03 AM#162
Best community so far has been Ryzom and LotRO. Worst, by far, was AoC. Current: None |
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8/10/09 2:14:28 PM#163
Originally posted by coffee
If you've nothing to say but trolling, dont say it. Everyone not playing wow is a wow hater! :P |
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8/10/09 9:33:59 PM#164
EQ1 old school is best hands down LoTRO is worst |
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8/10/09 9:37:18 PM#165
best i've ever been in is EQ1 and LOTRO. worst i've seen WoW and AoC. ![]() |
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8/10/09 9:39:39 PM#166
The best community I've experienced by far is Guild Wars. The worst is a toss up between Darkfall and AoC pvp servers. |
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8/10/09 9:40:43 PM#167
Best: EQ1, Horizons, FFXI, Vanguard. Worst: AoC. Nothing else close. I thought WoW was bad but AoC made WoW look like a friendly and mature community. |
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8/10/09 9:44:27 PM#168
Best: EQ Worst: EQ EQ went from the best to the worst community during the years, it's a bit shocking how kind and helpful players used to be and how elitist and selfish they were when I left the game over a year ago. |
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Whipp555
Novice Member
Joined: 8/10/09
If you can just tell me your sort code and account number... |
8/10/09 9:49:21 PM#169
Best : Star Wars Galaxies pre NGE was heaven community wise. On an unofficial RP server a real community feel. You could walk into the mos eisley cantina at any time day or night like it was real and full of activity...I have never seen a single inn in any MMO with people actually in it other than for a brief event or two. Runner up - Everquest 1 - Before velious expansion because so many of us were so nieve to this type of game and the rush rush powergame mentality hadnt kicked in in general across MMOs. Worst : Vanguard for a pve focussed game it was a real shocker it was this poor but probably largly down to there being noone left by time I was hitting higher levels..hard to have community with no players..just a feeling of doom and gloom most days. Runner up - Everquest 1 - Post Velious expansion your own mother would stab you in the back for the super rare dropping loot item she always wanted ..paving the way for the general style of community ever since. |
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Whipp555
Novice Member
Joined: 8/10/09
If you can just tell me your sort code and account number... |
8/10/09 9:50:11 PM#170
Originally posted by bastioni2
wow to think you were writing this the same time as I was..:) |
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8/11/09 12:21:37 AM#171
BEST: Vanguard. Most people will say "mature" or "helpful." I am going to use a different word. In my many (many) years of online gaming, I have to say that I think Vanguard players are the most . . . intelligent. CLOSE SECOND: EQ 2 and SWG tied. Helpful, friendly players.
WORST: WoW. Typical answer, probably predictable. I know. I have had some awful experiences with this game in terms of my social interactions with people. CLOSE SECOND: Everquest. I agree completely that when I first played EQ, it was an awesome social game. Let us face some facts: EQ was redesigned from group cooperative gameplay to guild competitive gameplay. It totally undermined the small group and community guild experience, which I believed --and still do-- was the very backbone and soul of Everquest.
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8/11/09 12:34:24 AM#172
Originally posted by RamenThief7
Wow, I feel bad for you. You only played for an hour and it left that much of an impression on you? You know you can pick up FFXI pretty cheap these days...14.95 gets you the 2008 collection (whatever that has) www.direct2drive.com/6/6753/product/Buy-FINAL-FANTASY-XI-Vana%27diel-Collection-2008-Download |
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8/11/09 12:42:47 AM#173
"Vanguard for a pve focussed game it was a real shocker it was this poor but probably largly down to there being noone left by time I was hitting higher levels..hard to have community with no players..just a feeling of doom and gloom most days."
My time in Vanguard was nothing but enjoyable, aside from this douche or that, the community had been nothing but awesome...
My two cents... http://www.speedtest.net/result/1031474168.png |
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8/11/09 1:38:57 AM#174
Best - Horizons: This was easily the friendliest, co-operative and outgoing community I have ever seen in an MMO. Its a shame that game was plagued with so many problems.
Worst-Guild Wars: Arrogance, selfishness and vindictiveness abound. Its not often I see a community completely facemelt a profanity filter. Player attitudes have improved somewhat in recent years (but that means little since you can only go up from rock bottom). |
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8/11/09 2:02:00 AM#175
Every game has good and bad people, that is just a fact. Bigger games just have more of each type.
Best - Guild Wars, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars galaxies. Guild wars is just a great fun game, and for a while, you basically had to group to do things. This lead to a lot of fun, hard, but new experience..ing..y...times... Lord of the Rings just has great, nice people. Ask a question, two or three people answer polietly and quickly. Even if it's a "lol well duh" question. Star Wars Galaxies. This might have been the best at first. Everyone was so caught up in, WOW STAR WARS, that people were just having too much fun and hanging out. Plus it was a social game and not GET TO HIGHEST LEVEL, RAID, PVP, GEAR, GOOGOGOGOGOGO, like every game now. Worst - Aion, War. Aion - In every beta weekend people basically ignore everything, and just laugh/be jerks about it. Everytime. They act like people who this might be their first time trying, should know it all. People say "This could knock WoW down a peg", it sure could, and it will get the same type of people in it. That are already permiating with it. Any forum I read, I get the same impression of people acting like that, just like I do at certain points of wow. As for War, it was not so much the antisocial/rude/jerk people. It was the fact that there wasn't a soul in chat. Like ever. In the entire zone it seemed.
As for WoW. It sure did have some of the worst people I've met. But it also had some of the coolest people I've met. And not the RPers/MMOers for life. There were jerks and assholes, but there were cool people you could hang out with in RL all the time. As a game gets bigger, more people play, more different types of people. So It's obvious that you'll have it. But outside of the Elite Raiders that own everything, It was not bad at all. |
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