Thats sad that you are lonely.. i mean it not in a bad way but i mean it makes me sad. Having people in your life is awesome.

Mmos can provide some social happiness to some people and thats a good thing

I dont play because im lonely, i have many people around me, I play because i love games :D i get to play with my friends that live far away from me..

If you are lonely, maybe playing mmos is not the answer, go out and meet people :) is as easy as saying whats up my brotha!!! lol

Originally posted by bigtime102

 

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Originally posted by qbangy32

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Originally posted by natuxatu

 

Do you play MMOs because you're lonely and unhappy with life? Is MMOs your way to escape? I know it is for me :( 

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I'm far from being lonely, with a house full of kids and a demanding wife I use MMO's to get away from the hussle and bussle of my busy life, it's the only time I have where I get to do the things I want to do, needless to say once the kids and wife find me I'm back to square one again.
I've played alongside ppl who live on their own and who seem to be online 24/7, no outside interests other than their current MMO, to me this is quite sad and a rather depressing way to live your life, using the internet to meet ppl is fine, but actually get out there and "Meet" then face to face if you want to have a real tangible social life, rather than just a group of pixels with random names attached to them.
 

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And seeing you in person is just a bunch of photons bouncing off a group of random hydrogen atoms called your face into my eye, and that diamond on your wifes finger you grinded forever for has no more practicle value than my digitized ak47. Actually I can think of lots 1 and 0's thats are more practicle and valueable than diamonds. So i dont see a difference really. Other than the fact theres no touching, or procreating in the virtual world, but thats coming soon too. In the end virtual life will be no different then real life, infact even better. But hey, not everyones a pioneer and willing to go to the new world, Ill be first in line though.

Agreed, RL is waaaay overrated. Physically meeting with people is so 1998.

Then again, I'm the type of person who would much rather watch squirrels goofing off in my backyard then have to listen to some clueless, self absorbed peon whine about the petty issues in their shallow little world.

i play mmos to meet new people , work in a team driven environment , enjoy late nights by myself (sort of like a lonely person, but without feeling lonely).

ive got a life outside mmos, usually i play at night when theres really nothing to do in the realm of RL

Originally posted by acidworm

Then again, I'm the type of person who would much rather watch squirrels goofing off in my backyard then have to listen to some clueless, self absorbed peon whine about the petty issues in their shallow little world.

Case and point.

The funniest thing about all this (and I don't think depression is a laughing matter) is that we all have RL friends that have never experienced the bliss of a MMOG. Sure we might have a couple who have, but the majority are your typical vanity obsessed drones. It's all about the clothes, the car and any material posession they can gloat about. They couldn't fathom a Friday or Saturday night without being at the bar, guzzling watered down beer or overpriced cocktails in a plastic cup and yapping away at other sexually frustrated people.

What I'm getting at is some of us have truly been there, done that, put a fork in me and let me enjoy the comfort of my own home in these truly alternate realities with thousands of other like-minded people. If WE actually all met up, all of us here who have a true passion in MMOGing, we'd probably have a genuinely great time without a moment of boredom as opposed to the anxious feeling you get to EVAC  after hearing your friends spew the same corny lines week after week at the local dive bar.

I am speaking from a "30s" prospective here even though PLENTY of 30+ers still party hard. If you're still 18-29, go out and go nuts so you have zero regrets. I grew up in NYC and went to more clubs, raves, warehouse parties, roof parties and bars than I could ever dream of. I've experienced some insanely bizarre things in this jungle as opposed to someone growing up in rural Amercia. It was incredibly raw but I had my fill, and I think everyone should have theirs too regardless of where you grow up. I'm happily retired from all that and enjoying the other side of life, the humble one.

Now I can stay home and dance like a banana.

industrialized countries are a bunch of crybabies.  "life sucks I'm playing WoW" ... well boo hoo.  I live in a mud hut and life sucks and I only eat 250 calories a day. Do you see me crying, NO

Originally posted by drolkrad666

industrialized countries are a bunch of crybabies.  "life sucks I'm playing WoW" ... well boo hoo.  I live in a mud hut and life sucks and I only eat 250 calories a day. Do you see me crying, NO

More complex societies lead more complex lifestyles which lead to more complex problems.

I would dare to say depression can affect a human worse than mild starvation.

The more people have time to sit around and think of menial things, the worse the world seems to become in their eyes. Even if you have to wake up in the morning and try to figure out how you're going to eat today, it's an easier lifestyle than a person who has food put in front of them then is forced to ask "Now what?"

Originally posted by natuxatu

Do you play MMOs because you're lonely and unhappy with life? Is MMOs your way to escape? I know it is for me :( 

Well, no, not at all.

Though I've met friends through online games, all my friends are non-game playing, real life people. Quite frankly, my advice is to seek out good people in your area. No substitute for "in person". If you have issues meeting new people you should seek professional advice. Nothing wrong with that.

Originally posted by natuxatu

Do you play MMOs because you're lonely and unhappy with life? Is MMOs your way to escape? I know it is for me :( 

No, I'm a gamer.  People who play mmos because they are their only means of socializing is the main reason mmo communities suck...IMO....etc.

Originally posted by Thradar

Originally posted by natuxatu

Do you play MMOs because you're lonely and unhappy with life? Is MMOs your way to escape? I know it is for me :( 

 

No, I'm a gamer.  People who play mmos because they are their only means of socializing is the main reason mmo communities suck...IMO....etc.

This really depends.

If it was a person who had proper manners, then by all means it would only improve the MMO community. Though, i do tend to see at least 5 "LOLWTFNOOB!" for every one "Hey, do you need some help?"

well its a matter of perspective.

a person whos lonely and has nothing to do is much more depressed than lets say a person whos lonely, but has something to do. games can get your mind occupied through some hard times which is good imo. not so much if nothing changes tho. then it leads to addiction.

another question is - why a mmo? on one hand your own problems will look much less annoying when you see so many retards online (retards as in people who behave.... like shits). on other hand - they might annoy you even more.

so are real people in a game really important? maybe singleplayer game is better? you might get bored faster if it has shitty story or doesnt have any at all, but the 'annoying people' factor is not there thus there is one less thing to worry about, less chance to make your bad condition even worse.

imo a game with great story, involving characters, character development etc is a much better thing than mmos.

you might actually get involved in that fiction so much that youll compare yourself to those characters and find a solution to your problems.

you might say : LOLWAT FINDING SOLUTION IN A COMPUTER GAME?! GET A LIFE YOU SUCK!

does it really matter where tho? whatever helps - is good. a car accident, broken leg, a good book, friends advice. and yes - a computer game.

my 2 cents.

Originally posted by acidworm

The funniest thing about all this (and I don't think depression is a laughing matter) is that we all have RL friends that have never experienced the bliss of a MMOG. Sure we might have a couple who have, but the majority are your typical vanity obsessed drones. It's all about the clothes, the car and any material posession they can gloat about. They couldn't fathom a Friday or Saturday night without being at the bar, guzzling watered down beer or overpriced cocktails in a plastic cup and yapping away at other sexually frustrated people.

What I'm getting at is some of us have truly been there, done that, put a fork in me and let me enjoy the comfort of my own home in these truly alternate realities with thousands of other like-minded people. If WE actually all met up, all of us here who have a true passion in MMOGing, we'd probably have a genuinely great time without a moment of boredom as opposed to the anxious feeling you get to EVAC  after hearing your friends spew the same corny lines week after week at the local dive bar.

I am speaking from a "30s" prospective here even though PLENTY of 30+ers still party hard. If you're still 18-29, go out and go nuts so you have zero regrets. I grew up in NYC and went to more clubs, raves, warehouse parties, roof parties and bars than I could ever dream of. I've experienced some insanely bizarre things in this jungle as opposed to someone growing up in rural Amercia. It was incredibly raw but I had my fill, and I think everyone should have theirs too regardless of where you grow up. I'm happily retired from all that and enjoying the other side of life, the humble one.

Now I can stay home and dance like a banana.

 

Could not have put it better myself I live in London and that is like a mirror of my experiences in my teens and twenties. I'm done with all that now I'm in my late 30's and want to explore other things in life and because I've played video games on and off all my life I thought I'd catch up on the ones I missed and new genres that I've never tried like MMOG's.

I find the "I have a life" so cannot be serious about games type of folks strange because everything we do is a part of life and games for me are as much about the real need to play as the need to fire the imagination as a stress release and if I can experience that with others in co-ordinated teams and big beautiful worlds then thats a Brucie bonus as we say this side of the pond. Though if you find you are using games as a way of escaping real life problems please seek professional help as you'll be able to return, get more fun and satisfaction from them, rather than having your personal hardships bubbling under the surface and ruining the experience for yourself and others.
 

Cal..

You guys have had some pretty sad friends if going to bars and buying overpriced, watered down drinks was your teen/twenties experience.

I'm 24 and I can honestly say I've no desire at all to go to a bar or get drunk. Do I get drunk? Sure, but very rarely. In fact the beer in my fridge has been there since March. Yeah, that's right...March. Gross, huh?

A lot of my friends are very similar. We go out to dinner and have real conversations. We discuss science, politics, whatever. Just today I had a conversation with a 22 year old friend of mine about the maturity of the human specie, and how we can't accept our roles in society because we're too busy acting like children. Even the adults, too busy worrying about me me me, not enough on what would benefit our (OUR, not just mine, or your) lives.

But then, I typically only hang out with that type of crowd. The "WOOO! Lets get drunk tonight!" group never appealed to me.

Yea i have the same problem... Only instead of playing MMO's to deal with my lonliness I go out with friends.
Its frustrating to know that I'm dependant on them... But atleast there is much less of a social stigma involve with it than playing games with other people online.

I think you might want to cheer up a little bit, maybe do some other activities but I don't think getting part of the social bar knocked off with online games is a legit way to do things.

:)

Originally posted by ZivaDomini

You guys have had some pretty sad friends if going to bars and buying overpriced, watered down drinks was your teen/twenties experience.

I'm 24 and I can honestly say I've no desire at all to go to a bar or get drunk. Do I get drunk? Sure, but very rarely. In fact the beer in my fridge has been there since March. Yeah, that's right...March. Gross, huh?

A lot of my friends are very similar. We go out to dinner and have real conversations. We discuss science, politics, whatever. Just today I had a conversation with a 22 year old friend of mine about the maturity of the human specie, and how we can't accept our roles in society because we're too busy acting like children. Even the adults, too busy worrying about me me me, not enough on what would benefit our (OUR, not just mine, or your) lives.

 

But then, I typically only hang out with that type of crowd. The "WOOO! Lets get drunk tonight!" group never appealed to me.

I am in my 40's and I wish more people at your age level behaved as you do. The world would be a much better place not to mention the USA would not be on the tail end of the educational charts worldwide. I am quite sure you had a very positive upbringing and you have your parents to thank for that. Tell them I said thank you also as we have far too many stupid people breeding today.

Originally posted by sonicbrew

Originally posted by ZivaDomini

You guys have had some pretty sad friends if going to bars and buying overpriced, watered down drinks was your teen/twenties experience.

I'm 24 and I can honestly say I've no desire at all to go to a bar or get drunk. Do I get drunk? Sure, but very rarely. In fact the beer in my fridge has been there since March. Yeah, that's right...March. Gross, huh?

A lot of my friends are very similar. We go out to dinner and have real conversations. We discuss science, politics, whatever. Just today I had a conversation with a 22 year old friend of mine about the maturity of the human specie, and how we can't accept our roles in society because we're too busy acting like children. Even the adults, too busy worrying about me me me, not enough on what would benefit our (OUR, not just mine, or your) lives.

 

But then, I typically only hang out with that type of crowd. The "WOOO! Lets get drunk tonight!" group never appealed to me.

 

I am in my 40's and I wish more people at your age level behaved as you do. The world would be a much better place not to mention the USA would not be on the tail end of the educational charts worldwide. I am quite sure you had a very positive upbringing and you have your parents to thank for that. Tell them I said thank you also as we have far too many stupid people breeding today.

To argue the devils advocate; I won't go so far as to say the waste of space drunk 6 night a week people are any use but having been a part of both the more introvert intellectual crowd and the very overt not so intellectual crowd; I can say atleast in my experiences they both brought things to the table.

Often times with intellectuals I found us talking about very deep complex issues. I would learn a lot, and I would would have a lot to think about.
When I go out, party, get hammered and dance at a club (something I NEVER liked untill the tail end of 3rd year university).
I don't have the most intellectually stimulating conversations by any stretch of the imagination. What does happen is I do form strong bonds with people and develop a lot of close connections.
When your keeping everything civil you are very methodical about the conversation. When your smashed out of your mind trying to see who can dance with this one girl first, you are often times more ubrupt and open to your freinds.

I'm not going to say that being drunk and doing stupid stuff is the only way to form strong relationships, but the people I go to when I have personal problems are the guys I got drunk and party with.
Don't get me wrong, I love my intellectual friends, and they are amazing people to hang out and game with; but that personal connection is so much harder to make in that situation.

As well among my intellectual friends there are many chemists; Physicists. People who work at labs or do research.
Among my more outgoing friends I have people who are doing well in business, people in politics and types like that.
I wouldn't say politi.. okay well I wouldn't say business people are a bane on society.

As I've said earlier the party lifestyle never appealed to me but I do enjoy it from time to time now. I'm in no way suggesting I am somehow better than you because I appreciate both, or that one is better than the other.
I'm saying it has its perks, and although it probably does highlight people who make the world a worse place, I assure you I've met many a computer scientist or engineer who is just as bad; If not worse because people seem to hand them more respect and power right off the bat because of their educational backing.