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MikeB

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Joined: 5/27/09
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8/07/09 3:12:10 PM#1

The City of Heroes forums have been completely overhauled. As a result, the forums are all centralized in one location, with the various languages receiving their own set of boards. While French is French, English is not always English. The American forums and the European English forums have now merged, and quite hilarious results were sure to follow.

One such example is the thread "It's COLOR and ARMOR!" by forum-goer PhiloticKnight:

NOT "colour" and "armour".

Wuith aull thouse extrau YOUUUUS in your wourds, you daumn Brits sound FRENCH!

And I KNOW how much you love THOSE guys.

Just figured I'd get that out there early before the merger and before DOOM!

The thread goes on for at least 16 pages as of this writing, be sure to check it out.

So then...Which is it? Color? Or Colour? Armor? Or Armour? Let us know in the comments! My vote? Color! Armor! Can you guess where I'm from? :)

Michael "MikeB" Bitton
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Kithca

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8/07/09 3:20:43 PM#2

I love this argument.  Colour, armour, flavour, and a few others.  I was born and grew up in the US, yet this was exactly how I learned to spell these words when I was a child.  Where I got it from, I do not know.  It took me a long while to break out of it, but even now I will find myself spelling those words with a U.

Likewise, I grew up calling carbonated beverages, "Soda pop."  I always and still do, get an odd look for it.  Just another sign of dialects colliding.

Nightbringe1

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8/07/09 3:38:01 PM#3
Originally posted by Kithca

I love this argument.  Colour, armour, flavour, and a few others.  I was born and grew up in the US, yet this was exactly how I learned to spell these words when I was a child.  Where I got it from, I do not know.  It took me a long while to break out of it, but even now I will find myself spelling those words with a U.

Likewise, I grew up calling carbonated beverages, "Soda pop."  I always and still do, get an odd look for it.  Just another sign of dialects colliding.


 

When Mr. Webster wrote his dictionary, he intentionally altered the spelling of a lot of words to distinguish the American language from the British. This was done out of patriotic pride.

Later in life he visited England and recanted his actions, but it was to late to undo the effects of his dictionary. As the first major American dictionary, it was already in widespread usage and his spelling as become accepted as standard.

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Kithca

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8/07/09 3:47:12 PM#4
Originally posted by Nightbringe1
 

When Mr. Webster wrote his dictionary, he intentionally altered the spelling of a lot of words to distinguish the American language from the British. This was done out of patriotic pride.

Later in life he visited England and recanted his actions, but it was to late to undo the effects of his dictionary. As the first major American dictionary, it was already in widespread usage and his spelling as become accepted as standard.

 

Yes, but more importantly, do you spell them color/armor or colour/armour??? 

katriell

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8/07/09 4:04:45 PM#5

I've lived in the US all my life and was taught American spelling, but I use British spelling simply because I like it.

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bonobotheory

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8/07/09 4:24:36 PM#6

I'm not a big fan of the extra vowels, but I prefer the British spelling of some words, especially in cases of doubling the final consonant before adding a suffix. Travelling, not traveling (my American spell-checker complains about that all the time). And some typically crass words actually look a bit classy in their original forms. Diarrhoea and paedophile.

 

Nightbringe1

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8/07/09 4:56:26 PM#7
Originally posted by Kithca
Originally posted by Nightbringe1
 

When Mr. Webster wrote his dictionary, he intentionally altered the spelling of a lot of words to distinguish the American language from the British. This was done out of patriotic pride.

Later in life he visited England and recanted his actions, but it was to late to undo the effects of his dictionary. As the first major American dictionary, it was already in widespread usage and his spelling as become accepted as standard.

 

Yes, but more importantly, do you spell them color/armor or colour/armour??? 


 

It depends on what I am writting

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Bob_Blawblaw

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8/07/09 5:08:58 PM#8

I get an email in my inbox saying 'mmorpg.com news article' and THIS is what it's about? Things are pretty quiet I guess.

Anyways, I'm a Canadian, and we tend to use the extra vowels too (perhaps because French is technically one of our two official languages... even though most of us only know a few French swear words).

Here's a few more...

Dialogue vs Dialog

Cheque vs Check (as in paycheque, check as in bodycheck... you know... in hockey, is still spelled 'check'... eh!)

That's it, I'm out.

How about some interesting news please mmorpg.com.

http://nged.urbanup.com/3962807

korat102

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8/07/09 5:18:18 PM#9

We keep our language difficult so we can weed out the imposters...

eric_w66

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8/07/09 5:19:28 PM#10

If the brits pronounced the extra 'U's in their words, I could see their placement there ;)... but they don't. :)

But my biggest pet peeve is "Aluminium". It was originally "Aluminum" (how the Canadians and Americans say it and spell it), but for most of the rest of the world, it got changed because some unnamed Brit felt "Aluminium" sounded classier than Aluminum... what about Platinum, Molybdenum, and Lanthanum? Those were "classy" enough?? ;)

 

 

nekollx

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8/07/09 5:20:56 PM#11
Originally posted by korat102

We keep our language difficult so we can weed out the imposters...

 

don't you mean Pousers

Tobruk

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8/07/09 5:40:42 PM#12

The British should feel lucky that its even called English still, they could be speaking German had things been different.

Butterball

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8/07/09 6:08:30 PM#13

* The British should feel lucky that its even called English still, they could be speaking German had things been different.*

 

LOL - that dumb ole argument, thats as valid as saying that the US would have all been talking Scandinavian if the Vikings had thought to murder the Natives with smallpox infected blankets...

 

As a Brit, I personally prefer the spelling including the U, but, when chatting with american/canadians in chatrooms I tend to use their spelling - minus the U - so as not to cause this same argument.

kruler

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8/07/09 6:22:22 PM#14

I,m in a country thats very confused in its stance on the whole correct and/or phonetic spelling of a word, In Australia both are used, however the schools do teach English/English as the Amercian spelling is considered just a word spelt as it sounds and not the corret spelling, my English professor went a bit further than that, and his rants could waste a whole afternoon, so he was encourged and prompted allot....

However on the whole I dont care to much, on the internet I use the Amercian spelling form allot, but in my home/work life I use traditional English and that sums it up rather well, traditional when I have to be, on the net lazy short form spelling, so there you have it, use the yank spelling when feeling lazy.

Currently Subbed to Fallen Earth, EVE, EQ1 and Readers Digest bastards keep mailing me crap and I cant shake em,moved countries twice for Christ's sake.

tryklon

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8/07/09 6:28:08 PM#15

Well im not a native english speaker, but from the way i see it it's like this, the language is called ENGLISH!!!!

 

I think thats enough right there....

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kruler

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8/07/09 6:30:31 PM#16
Originally posted by Butterball

* The British should feel lucky that its even called English still, they could be speaking German had things been different.*

 

LOL - that dumb ole argument, thats as valid as saying that the US would have all been talking Scandinavian if the Vikings had thought to murder the Natives with smallpox infected blankets...

 

As a Brit, I personally prefer the spelling including the U, but, when chatting with american/canadians in chatrooms I tend to use their spelling - minus the U - so as not to cause this same argument.


 

Sorry for double post this came up as I had posted, Australian internet=slow and under funded B/S..

Isnt there a case for the Vikings to have secertly succeeded in the US, after all their foriegn policies are somewhat same. Can someone track down the patents for the Kevlar combat helmet and see if there was ever a 2 horned option, with fur lining.

Currently Subbed to Fallen Earth, EVE, EQ1 and Readers Digest bastards keep mailing me crap and I cant shake em,moved countries twice for Christ's sake.

Lydon

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Posts: 2525

8/07/09 6:38:07 PM#17

Colour and armour for me, thanks. I see no reason to speak a dumbed down version of a language that has already gone to the dogs over the years :)


And the whole "you don't pronounce the "U's" so don't have them there!" argument is just silly, as a large portion of American English, too, would have to be changed.


But I guess the majority rules and the majority of the English speaking world's English is similar to British English. Plus, it's called ENGlish for a reason.


korat102

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Posts: 102

8/07/09 6:59:43 PM#18
Originally posted by Tobruk

The British should feel lucky that its even called English still, they could be speaking German had things been different.


 

That's ok. The way things are going, the Americans will be speaking Japanese soon...since they love their cars so much and the only people selling cars are the Japanese...

MikeyReign

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Joined: 4/26/07
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8/07/09 7:08:02 PM#19

 Well I don't know if this is encouraged in other countries in Europe, but here, our Educational system enforces the UK English language. Spelling words the same way as they are spelt in the US is just incorrect here. What ever the reason, I find that it makes more sense to stick to the UK English language, since I find the rules of the American language sometime's conflict. Like if you say Armor instead of Armour, why not say Contry instead of Country? What happened to the rule of getting rid of "u"?

Skuz

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8/07/09 8:15:11 PM#20
Originally posted by MikeyReign

 Well I don't know if this is encouraged in other countries in Europe, but here, our Educational system enforces the UK English language. Spelling words the same way as they are spelt in the US is just incorrect here. What ever the reason, I find that it makes more sense to stick to the UK English language, since I find the rules of the American language sometime's conflict. Like if you say Armor instead of Armour, why not say Contry instead of Country? What happened to the rule of getting rid of "u"?


 

Wouldn't that be Cuntry instead of Country if it was just "how the word is pronounced"?

I can see why the rule wasn't extended too far.

Where Americanised English got it right was "rebranding" words such as Sidewalk replacing Foot-path/Pavement, it should have left the spellings alone.

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VuDu_DawL

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8/07/09 9:25:10 PM#21
Originally posted by Kithca

I love this argument.  Colour, armour, flavour, and a few others.  I was born and grew up in the US, yet this was exactly how I learned to spell these words when I was a child.  Where I got it from, I do not know.  It took me a long while to break out of it, but even now I will find myself spelling those words with a U.

Likewise, I grew up calling carbonated beverages, "Soda pop."  I always and still do, get an odd look for it.  Just another sign of dialects colliding.

 

Oddly enough, I do the same. I prefer the -our endings, I suppose. It just sounds more... elegant.

Where I come from, it is 'soda', or 'soda pop', or just 'a pop' also. I made a trip down south and found they lump it all as 'a coke'.... unless it is a Sun Drop. (Ewww). And then there is their idea of iced tea. Down south it is "sweet tea" pronounced "sweetee". It took me a while to figure out that they were asking my drink preference, not using a term of endearment towards me (sweety).

Funny how even in our own country, the language and dialects can be so different.

 

dalestaines1

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8/07/09 9:28:58 PM#22
Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

I get an email in my inbox saying 'mmorpg.com news article' and THIS is what it's about? Things are pretty quiet I guess...

...How about some interesting news please mmorpg.com.

 

Agreed.

And...
...Colour.

SuperHans

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8/07/09 10:26:33 PM#23
Originally posted by Tobruk

The British should feel lucky that its even called English still, they could be speaking German had things been different.

Why's you trollin'?
 

 

Also, I spell it with a 'u'. English is the only true English. Amerikkkan is butchered English.

I'm just cool like that.

Blurr

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8/08/09 4:06:44 AM#24

Is this really what passes for news?

Bring it on down now.

Earthgirl

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8/08/09 11:40:23 AM#25

License or licence?

Advise or advice?

As a dutch national we learn british english in the schools, so when I moved to the States a few years ago it took me awhile to realize that what I thought were spelling mistakes were in fact not.

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