quote : "Darkfall favors gear over player skill. Numbers over player skill. Twinks (24/7 macro character skills) over player skill."

Wrong. If that was true then how come this guy with the best gear and 100 level fire magic and archery and above 60 on all stats couldn't kill me as soon as i hit the water?

Player Skill? Oh snap ! Can't be !

There's no way he couldn't kill me because i had the brain power to buff my self with Gills and just dive to the bottom of the lake and just parry down there till he realized i was not taking dmg while he was trying to get to me.

And then ofc he died to my friends that i had already called through vent.

Darkfall is the ONLY mmo that I have played so far that requires real player skill if you want to do something worth mentioning in-game.

6/10 is pretty decent. Any higher would just bring more carebears to the game.

Don't forget Lineage 2 got a 7/10 back in the days of its glory.

And NCsoft's team has 100s of people, not 50ish like AV.

They pulled the game off and they are actually making a living out of it, at least give them that. Cause they deserve it.

Lol, you're comparing Darkfall to Lineage 2, even in terms of score? LOL.

Darkfall is shit.

/neednotsaymorewhathasbeenstatedtoomanytimesabouthisshitpieceofgreekcrap

6 is too high a score for darkfall.

more like a 2 or a 3.

Originally posted by Baggs

quote : "Darkfall favors gear over player skill. Numbers over player skill. Twinks (24/7 macro character skills) over player skill."

 

Wrong. If that was true then how come this guy with the best gear and 100 level fire magic and archery and above 60 on all stats couldn't kill me as soon as i hit the water?

Player Skill? Oh snap ! Can't be !

There's no way he couldn't kill me because i had the brain power to buff my self with Gills and just dive to the bottom of the lake and just parry down there till he realized i was not taking dmg while he was trying to get to me.

And then ofc he died to my friends that i had already called through vent.

 

 

Darkfall is the ONLY mmo that I have played so far that requires real player skill if you want to do something worth mentioning in-game.

 

6/10 is pretty decent. Any higher would just bring more carebears to the game.

Don't forget Lineage 2 got a 7/10 back in the days of its glory.

And NCsoft's team has 100s of people, not 50ish like AV.

 

They pulled the game off and they are actually making a living out of it, at least give them that. Cause they deserve it.

Don't worry, your dear little game is not going to attract any serious number of real players, carebear or not.  If all you want is to own the game and the digital landscape you got it.  Just stay online and pvp whoever few left inside.  Good to hear you feel great fighting each other in a big empty server.

As for the constant need to compare DF to other games in attempt to find some face saving, I would just ask, why bother.  If you like the game you can play it even if no one else does.  L2 has a huge following and has been a cash cow for NC Soft, enough for them to send some stupid guy to the space.  AV, it would be lucky if they can pay their rent, they are going to default on the $12 million loan plus interest.  Great way to show how successful AV by comparing DF to L2.

Does AV deserve credit, your view my view.  Trying to tell us that AV tried something different is one thing, finishing the sentence by saying it cost its investors $12 million + 8 years and ended up with a product only a few thousand feels interested is another story.  Hack if you give me $12 million I can try something very different.  Everybody can, if they have $12 million to squander.

Being different, trying to be different is one thing, getting it to work at acceptable cost is another is another thing.  Where do you think is the appropriate focus, appropriate way to judge.  YVMV.

Most of the review was spot on except for the comment on sparsity of wildlife in RL(real-life)woods. I don't know what woods he considered a forest, but a group of trees in a city park doesn't count. Any real forest you go into today will be easily full of life from squirrels to wolves, bears, etc. Especially if you go further back in history before cities and towns, wildlife was even more abundant and overflowing, not to mention extremely dangerous. That being said, AV's view on making DF scarce on wildlife was idiotic at best in such a primal environment.

Oh, one other thing, just having a 1st person perspective does not make a game automaticly "immersive", lol. Saying you felt immersed only because the way it looked built also proves nothing. He really needs to expand on reasons for his opinion more. Like others have said, giving DF a 6 was beyond being nice.

Honestly I think the game wasn't given a high enough score. The game is the most fun I've had with a MMO in a long time.

an 8 or even 9 out of 10 is a more accurate score.

I sense the impression that he wanted to give it a lower score, but didnt want to join on the band wagon.

Notice how often he says "Personally I like this...." which means to say...  "everyone else doesnt seem to like this.."

And I quote...

"I simply have to be honest: it isn't a polished game. In fact, I just couldn't find it playable in any enjoyable way"

Which means to me, 0 / 10

if they get rid of the FPS bullshit, maybe.

I give the game credit for trying to make a skill game. But games have done this before without making it so unforgiving.  GW was a skill based game and its awesome! (just lacks content)  I say this game is a DARKFAIL!

The game is a pile of junk in almost every way possible.
I wouldn't even play it for free.

The fact that they try to charge $15+ for what basically comes down to
a featureless contentless outdated poorly produced FPS that is barely in
Beta stages is borderline criminal.

Not to mention the fact that they had to dupe the foolish into buying
the same client twice probably to try and make any kind of money
before the ship sinks which is going to happen real soon.

This thing has been the biggest failure of a MMO ever. It was supposed
to be bread from the Gods.

You could literally go play free games that are much higher quality.

 I have not seen a single reference to old school Ultima Online pre-T2A. Nearly all of his criticisms are a throw back to UO. The only thing new is the fps element.

Trying to judge this based on EQ/WoW criteria misses the point entirely.

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Originally posted by noesis790
 I have not seen a single reference to old school Ultima Online pre-T2A. Nearly all of his criticisms are a throw back to UO. The only thing new is the fps element.
Trying to judge this based on EQ/WoW criteria misses the point entirely.

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I played DF in beta and I bought BF about 2 months ago and played maybe a week. I want to love the game but I couldn't find any incentive to log back on : /