Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

 

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Yes I believe if someone has not spent money on a f2p games cash shop has no opinion. That completely makes sense as they are not contributing to the games core (production costs). If you were in there shoes my statement would ring true. 

Who makes updates for the games? The company.

Do the employees of said company work for free? No

Where does the money for the employees come from? The game

In a f2p game where does the money from the game come from? Item shop

So basically unless you buy something you are not the one paying the wages of those employees he create updates, content and fix bugs and issues. Because you are not contributing to the game moving forward.

But your not one of them and not contributing to this game ( I do not believe you spent any money) you may have posted about it, but thats a lie. Wanna know how I know? Its easy. Because yor ranting about the cost of the game, you want the best gear in a perfect game without spending money. Thats what I get from you.

Casual gamers don't need perfect gear, so they wouldn't quit a game because it costs some cash for the best in slot gear juiced up. Hardcore gamers do what it takes o get the best gear.

Cheapskates wander from mmo to mmo quitting once they realize hey have to invest in a games future to get the best gear

I'm not a liar. Don't call me that. Neither shall you call me a cheapskate. I'm rather sure I could buy and sell you. As I said, I'll let your statement that if somebody isn't investing in the CS they should not express an opinion about the game be evidence of your measure.

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

 

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Yes I believe if someone has not spent money on a f2p games cash shop has no opinion. That completely makes sense as they are not contributing to the games core (production costs). If you were in there shoes my statement would ring true. 

Who makes updates for the games? The company.

Do the employees of said company work for free? No

Where does the money for the employees come from? The game

In a f2p game where does the money from the game come from? Item shop

So basically unless you buy something you are not the one paying the wages of those employees he create updates, content and fix bugs and issues. Because you are not contributing to the game moving forward.

But your not one of them and not contributing to this game ( I do not believe you spent any money) you may have posted about it, but thats a lie. Wanna know how I know? Its easy. Because yor ranting about the cost of the game, you want the best gear in a perfect game without spending money. Thats what I get from you.

Casual gamers don't need perfect gear, so they wouldn't quit a game because it costs some cash for the best in slot gear juiced up. Hardcore gamers do what it takes o get the best gear.

Cheapskates wander from mmo to mmo quitting once they realize hey have to invest in a games future to get the best gear

I'm not a liar. Don't call me that. Neither shall you call me a cheapskate. I'm rather sure I could buy and sell you. As I said, I'll let your statement that if somebody isn't investing in the CS they should not express an opinion about the game be evidence of your measure.

 

Whats amazing that your gripes with the actual gameplay of this game have been shot down in this thread, and now you only defence to this game sucking is a cash shop.

Why do people expect game companys to make games for free? Next time you go to work (if you work) tell your lead that hey, lets do this all for free, lets give away all the stuff we manufacture and maintain for free!!!! See where that gets you.

Funny how you took that cheapskate to heart, at no point did I indicate you, but yes I called you a liar because I honestly believe you did not buy anything, does that make me a bad person? No, Im calling your bluff, as you have no proof of it its just the way its gonna be. Let it go.

But yes unless you plan on investing in this games future i.e giving them money, you have no say in how this game runs. Go tell a big name company like Apple to poll a bunch of people who will never buy a Mc product to see how apple can do it better and there opinion and see what they say. They will tell you the same thing, unless your investing in the future of the product your thoughts and concerns are useless.

Its the f2p way, people can enjoy the game for free because others spend more then a monthly fee to play, so let it be. I spend $15 to go to a movie, for 15 bucks I can buy a neat little digital item I can enjoy longer? Sounds resonable to me, and to others. But hey I spend money on stuff I enjoy. And because of that mentality this game is free to others. 

Take your bad arguement somewhere else

You sir, are awesome. This argument on the "true meaning" of f2p has been tossed all over the internet to the point where someone actually posted "f2p doesn't mean it's free it just means it's free." YES FREE TO PLAY, that's exactly what it is, f2p means the game will never stop you in the middle of gameplay and say "To Continue Playing Please Pay us $$$." Yes OF COURSE they are going to advertise things that you can actually purchase, this doesn't stop you from playing the game, however, it merely enhances your gameplay experiance. Finally someone with actual logic can punch these whiners where it hurts.

And unreasonable lag is a different issue entirly isn't it? ANd the nerfing of the games classes, well yes this is bad as well. I don't see how people could blame a cash shop on issues such as these.

As always, some people will not be satisfied with micro transactions. F2P works well for some and not so well for others. RoM was the first F2P game I ever gave an honest effort, and I found that this system isn't for me. For anyone who wants to casually play a fantasy MMO, a few hours a week, and not take it very seriously, this is a fine system. For anyone who wants to buy their way into the upper ranks, this is also a good system. For anyone who wants the freedom to experience everything a game has to offer, on a $15 per month budget, this is not a very good system.

RoM serves a purpose. It's a well refined game, with some depth, for casual gamers who like to play but don't feel any game is worth paying for. It's also a system for gamers who want no limit on the amount of money they spend on gaming and for the money spent to be directly reflected in their gaming experience. For anyone in-between, it'll be a mixed bag. Face it, the more you spend in RoM, the more you get. Accept that or don't bother down-loading it. You may want to take advantage of that sytem or it may prove limiting if you budget your gaming expenses..

Most casual gamers (hobbyists that will spend $15/month) would probably find a better experience elsewehere. That's my personal opinion and is by no means a reason not to try RoM for yourself. If you want more, faster than most sub based games offer, RoM might be for you. To me, RoM gaming proved to be of lesser value than it's competitors -- monthly subs. I find the freedom of monthly subs (with unfettered access) fits me better than micro-transactions.

Runes of Magic was pretty fun and had a lot of potential until the 1816 patch(for my friends and I anyway). The game was starting to get somewhere then they dropped the ball with a major combat overhaul like one week or less before release(march 2009) which lost a lot of the playerbase and left some classes totally wrecked. That's it in a nutshell, and I don't think they have recovered from it.

So, basically.....yeah.....avoid this game.

Originally posted by sushimees

Originally posted by Sixpax

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by daniel!!!

this is only going to be short, but i believe this game is amazing, especaily for it being F2P, yes it has its downsides, but what eles do you expect, i havnt fount a F2P mmorpg as good as this yet.

 

Guild Wars is f2p. You think ROM is better than that? That's crazy talk.

 

I most definitely consider RoM better than GW in many aspects.  The whole non-persistent world, nauseatingly repetitive PvP, and quirky character controls that don't respond like you expect them too being the most notable.

And if you love GW that much, why are you trolling the RoM forums... oh right, the separation anxiety thing... got it.

 

 

I can understand your dislike for Guild Wars but please do not spread lies about it. The character controls are very fluid, there's nothing wrong with them if you are used to controlling character movement with your keyboard and mouse (like WoW), and to say that PvP is repetitive, is just utter bullcrap. The different ways you set up your skillset can change the way you play your character and you can always change them when not in a battle. Maybe you disliked the group PvP but that's no reason to lie about the game.

The character controls in GW were anything but fluid.  I remember when switching directions quickly my character would do this odd looking swivel turn that was very unnatural.  The PvP was repetitive because it was just battleground (or whatever you call it) after battleground.  No open world PvP or large-scale PvP like you'd expect in a MMORPG.  No unpredictability like getting jumped out of nowhere and having to think fast on your feet while questing or whatnot.  It was always the same thing with different scenery (and not much variety at that).  It's always your team vs. another team.  I could take it for about an hour tops before it just became too repetitive.

Originally posted by Sixpax

Originally posted by sushimees

Originally posted by Sixpax

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by daniel!!!

this is only going to be short, but i believe this game is amazing, especaily for it being F2P, yes it has its downsides, but what eles do you expect, i havnt fount a F2P mmorpg as good as this yet.

 

Guild Wars is f2p. You think ROM is better than that? That's crazy talk.

 

I most definitely consider RoM better than GW in many aspects.  The whole non-persistent world, nauseatingly repetitive PvP, and quirky character controls that don't respond like you expect them too being the most notable.

And if you love GW that much, why are you trolling the RoM forums... oh right, the separation anxiety thing... got it.

 

 

I can understand your dislike for Guild Wars but please do not spread lies about it. The character controls are very fluid, there's nothing wrong with them if you are used to controlling character movement with your keyboard and mouse (like WoW), and to say that PvP is repetitive, is just utter bullcrap. The different ways you set up your skillset can change the way you play your character and you can always change them when not in a battle. Maybe you disliked the group PvP but that's no reason to lie about the game.

 

The character controls in GW were anything but fluid.  I remember when switching directions quickly my character would do this odd looking swivel turn that was very unnatural.  The PvP was repetitive because it was just battleground (or whatever you call it) after battleground.  No open world PvP or large-scale PvP like you'd expect in a MMORPG.  No unpredictability like getting jumped out of nowhere and having to think fast on your feet while questing or whatnot.  It was always the same thing with different scenery (and not much variety at that).  It's always your team vs. another team.  I could take it for about an hour tops before it just became too repetitive.

In my experience the controls for GW were excellent. The nature of PVP in GW is the tactics involved with the different classes and the great number of skills available to each class and how they counter each other. It's all about "guilds" and teams competing in the name of the guild. It's not about bushwacking other players. You may not like that kind of pvp, but obviously millions of others do.

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

 

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Yes I believe if someone has not spent money on a f2p games cash shop has no opinion. That completely makes sense as they are not contributing to the games core (production costs). If you were in there shoes my statement would ring true. 

Who makes updates for the games? The company.

Do the employees of said company work for free? No

Where does the money for the employees come from? The game

In a f2p game where does the money from the game come from? Item shop

So basically unless you buy something you are not the one paying the wages of those employees he create updates, content and fix bugs and issues. Because you are not contributing to the game moving forward.

But your not one of them and not contributing to this game ( I do not believe you spent any money) you may have posted about it, but thats a lie. Wanna know how I know? Its easy. Because yor ranting about the cost of the game, you want the best gear in a perfect game without spending money. Thats what I get from you.

Casual gamers don't need perfect gear, so they wouldn't quit a game because it costs some cash for the best in slot gear juiced up. Hardcore gamers do what it takes o get the best gear.

Cheapskates wander from mmo to mmo quitting once they realize hey have to invest in a games future to get the best gear

I'm not a liar. Don't call me that. Neither shall you call me a cheapskate. I'm rather sure I could buy and sell you. As I said, I'll let your statement that if somebody isn't investing in the CS they should not express an opinion about the game be evidence of your measure.

 

Whats amazing that your gripes with the actual gameplay of this game have been shot down in this thread, and now you only defence to this game sucking is a cash shop.

 

Why do people expect game companys to make games for free? Next time you go to work (if you work) tell your lead that hey, lets do this all for free, lets give away all the stuff we manufacture and maintain for free!!!! See where that gets you.

Funny how you took that cheapskate to heart, at no point did I indicate you, but yes I called you a liar because I honestly believe you did not buy anything, does that make me a bad person? No, Im calling your bluff, as you have no proof of it its just the way its gonna be. Let it go.

But yes unless you plan on investing in this games future i.e giving them money, you have no say in how this game runs. Go tell a big name company like Apple to poll a bunch of people who will never buy a Mc product to see how apple can do it better and there opinion and see what they say. They will tell you the same thing, unless your investing in the future of the product your thoughts and concerns are useless.

Its the f2p way, people can enjoy the game for free because others spend more then a monthly fee to play, so let it be. I spend $15 to go to a movie, for 15 bucks I can buy a neat little digital item I can enjoy longer? Sounds resonable to me, and to others. But hey I spend money on stuff I enjoy. And because of that mentality this game is free to others. 

Take your bad arguement somewhere else

 

There is no dearth in this entire thread of people including myself that have substantive claims that this game is lacking. Try reading them.

Spend your money on it. Encourage others to spend money on it. Have fun with that. I don't care if you love the game. I don't care if you want to recommend others play the game. The problem is you seem to rankle that somebody else holds the opinion that the game sucks and isn't worth the money. And that is messed up. It is also typocal of the people in this thread that like the game. It shows what kind of folks one is likely to encounter in the community.

Have you ever considered just stating that you think the game is good and why, rather than attacking others who hold a contrary opinion? Probably not.

Just replying to this thread due to the title. 

Play this game - it's easily the best F2P game ATM!

Originally posted by 1977

Runes of Magic was pretty fun and had a lot of potential until the 1816 patch(for my friends and I anyway). The game was starting to get somewhere then they dropped the ball with a major combat overhaul like one week or less before release(march 2009) which lost a lot of the playerbase and left some classes totally wrecked. That's it in a nutshell, and I don't think they have recovered from it.

So, basically.....yeah.....avoid this game.

I have to agree with you completely. I too was very hopeful until they did that patch. I was so enthusiastic I threw them some cash just to help them along. I didn't need anything that required cash at that point. But because the content was lacking, they figured they would nerf the classes and make what content they did have last longer. The longer you're around, the greater chance you will throw some money in their pocket.