I think I read this comment in the newest Game Informer a writer was speaking about the E3 presentation of TOR and he implied jokingly that maybe Lucas should retire and just allow Bioware to handle the Star Wars IP.  The reason I brought this up is because I ironically have thought this ever since the first trilogy released was quite certain I would rather see something like that after the last trilogy (which unlike most I actually liked).  But I say this because outside of the announcement of them finally doing the last trilogy when is the last time Lucas did anything with the IP that was either exciting to anticipate or even any good once released.

  Sometimes I get a bit bothered by all the lore junkies who cry and moan about messing up the lore etc. but I admit that Lucas has bothered me for years with his apparent disconnection with reality sci fi convention after sci fi convention they continue to underwhelm with the announcements they make, you have the dissapointments that were the last trilogy then of course the complete failure that was that god awful looking cartoon movie which I still can't even find enough interest in to watch the movie or the series on Cartoon Network and most recently that horrible presentation at San Diego comic con what in gods name is that my star wars stories crap?

  At one time I actually held out hope that Star Wars could be like the sci fi version of James Bond with multiple films under it's belt which anyone who read the early novels would know was very possible but please Lucas has his head so far up his own ass he doesn't seem to even know where it is.

  I'm not saying that the license should be used exclusively by Bioware but someone other than George has to be able to do a better job than the bone heads at LA.

Not good choice answers. lucas should retire from making movies, but not from making sure novels, comic books, video games etc stay canon. E for effort.

I will have to say that I enjoyed the story and structure of KOTOR way more than the 3 new movies.

I think Lucas lost touch with his fans a LONG time ago in a galaxy far far away...

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Not good choice answers. lucas should retire from making movies, but not from making sure novels, comic books, video games etc stay canon. E for effort.

Not the best choice answers yet but I am speaking about everything they do with the IP not just the movies he doesn't write any of those novels comics etc. which is exactly why I made the post in the first place,  everyone he allows to work with the IP has done better with it than he has since the first 3 films.

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Not good choice answers. lucas should retire from making movies, but not from making sure novels, comic books, video games etc stay canon. E for effort.

 

Not the best choice answers yet but I am speaking about everything they do with the IP not just the movies he doesn't write any of those novels comics etc. which is exactly why I made the post in the first place,  everyone he allows to work with the IP has done better with it than he has since the first 3 films.

No he doesnt write them but he has to approve it. If he doesnt like the storyline or the way its written he simply doesnt allow it.

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Originally posted by jaxsundane

Originally posted by Krayzjoel

Not good choice answers. lucas should retire from making movies, but not from making sure novels, comic books, video games etc stay canon. E for effort.

 

Not the best choice answers yet but I am speaking about everything they do with the IP not just the movies he doesn't write any of those novels comics etc. which is exactly why I made the post in the first place,  everyone he allows to work with the IP has done better with it than he has since the first 3 films.

 

No he doesnt write them but he has to approve it. If he doesnt like the storyline or the way its written he simply doesnt allow it.

I know this but it doesn't change anything in the post or poll it's why I made the second option should someone else head up lucasarts it's one thing to avoid ruining the canon totally different when you are just shoveling shit hoping we will buy it which is exactly what LUCASARTS does as a company the things they have approved other companies to do have been great what they do isn't.

Chill. Lucasarts, Skywalker Sound and Industrial Light and Magic are three of the biggest and most influential companies in the world. They are also incredibly good at what they do.

Get over it.

It is always interesting to watch mass phenomenons.

So many now claim to "hate" Lucas and the new trilogy. Nonetheless they did quite well in the movies - all three of them. Interesting.

Also most people forget they are just old and disgruntled now compared to when they first saw the old trilogy in their childhood.

Personally I love the new trilogy as much - in some cases even more than the original. People detest characters like Jar Jar Binks, but forget how utterly ridiculous the droids behaved in the first trilogy. Or Yoda in the first trilogy compared with him in the new one.

Lucas is great. He should make another trilogy. Not retire!

When that is said, he should throw us a bone and make a real mmo in the form of SWG 2.0 (pre-nge, pre-cu) with much more choices, customization, class possibilities, even more depth in crafting - and less bugs and more coherent gameplay and coherent pvp experiences.

He sure as hell can afford it !

Originally posted by Draccan

It is always interesting to watch mass phenomenons.

So many now claim to "hate" Lucas and the new trilogy. Nonetheless they did quite well in the movies - all three of them. Interesting.

Also most people forget they are just old and disgruntled now compared to when they first saw the old trilogy in their childhood.

Personally I love the new trilogy as much - in some cases even more than the original. People detest characters like Jar Jar Binks, but forget how utterly ridiculous the droids behaved in the first trilogy. Or Yoda in the first trilogy compared with him in the new one.

Lucas is great. He should make another trilogy. Not retire!

 

When that is said, he should throw us a bone and make a real mmo in the form of SWG 2.0 (pre-nge, pre-cu) with much more choices, customization, class possibilities, even more depth in crafting - and less bugs and more coherent gameplay and coherent pvp experiences.

He sure as hell can afford it !

 

 

I agree with most of this, especially the part about an swg2 since swtor seems to be aimed at 8yr olds how about making one for us grown up star wars fans

i'm with the op of the anim film and series here completely and it reminds me of the line from big bang theory about being dissapointed in the order george lucas wants you to be

as for should george lucas retire i'll wait and decide after the tv series airs

i suppose. should barrock show us his birth certificate?

Originally posted by Draccan

It is always interesting to watch mass phenomenons.

So many now claim to "hate" Lucas and the new trilogy. Nonetheless they did quite well in the movies - all three of them. Interesting.

Also most people forget they are just old and disgruntled now compared to when they first saw the old trilogy in their childhood.

Personally I love the new trilogy as much - in some cases even more than the original. People detest characters like Jar Jar Binks, but forget how utterly ridiculous the droids behaved in the first trilogy. Or Yoda in the first trilogy compared with him in the new one.

Lucas is great. He should make another trilogy. Not retire!

 

When that is said, he should throw us a bone and make a real mmo in the form of SWG 2.0 (pre-nge, pre-cu) with much more choices, customization, class possibilities, even more depth in crafting - and less bugs and more coherent gameplay and coherent pvp experiences.

He sure as hell can afford it !

 

 

  I did make it a point to note that I actually liked the new trilogy (read the first post) I also thought all the crying and moaning over Jar Jar was stupid because as you said there were plenty of foolish characters in the first Star Wars but the point is in the in the 30 years since the first we have had six movies three of which got pretty mixed reviews and a lame ass cartoon feature film and an equally lame cartoon series.  You actually make my point for me that other than the films everything else he does with his IP is lame and when he hands it to others we get awesome products so yeah if he can actually come back to this galaxy instead of the one far far away we may actually have some good Star Wars products from Lucasarts themselves instead of whoever he decides to hand the ip to.

  Now having said that I am in no way suggesting he should sell his IP nor allow others to run nilly willy with it (he'd be a fool to) but I just don't think he nor his company is really in touch with what the fans want evident in the dead silence i the room at San Diego.

Originally posted by Moirae

Chill. Lucasarts, Skywalker Sound and Industrial Light and Magic are three of the biggest and most influential companies in the world. They are also incredibly good at what they do.

 

Get over it.

Influential in that they have made great technological advances sure but that does not sell movies make them good nor entertain the fans and that's what got them to where they are now not all the breakthroughs they made and that's evident in the fact that he isn't grabbing the kids attention as he did with our generation and he is having a much harder time in keeping our attention.

  And there is really nothing to get over I still will go to see any SW film as I'm sure most of us will and I'll atleast give any SW product a shot including those produced by LA directly I just think it's a shame that when you speak outside of the first few films most of the SW products that are good don't come from him nor his company so don't get all up in your feelings because I stated an obvious truth that you don't like to hear it's just a forum for discussion.

i don't think he should retire but he needs to step back and let others have a control over the star wars galaxy.it is so rich and he did build the foundation of it but its time to realise he is out of ideas as the prequel movies proved and let others take more control.

it was soe trying to keep to his idea of the star wars univerise that caused a lot of SWG downfall imho.

I'll side with the, "he should stick to canon" crowd.  I enjoyed both trilogies, even though most did not like the newer trilogy.  He does a great job of putting pieces to the story together over the six movies.

The reason I think he should step down from making movies is, I've heard him in a coupld of interviews now where he has said he's done making movies.  It sounds like he's giving up and for him to step back in would not be the best thing for the Star Wars IP.  However, it's basically his story, he is in control of how it's played out and should still have a say in what gets added to canon and what characters can be killed off in games, movies, books, etc...

I do want to see a new set of movie trilogies, but I don't want them to be made by G. Lucas.  I want them to be made by a newer generation who grew up admiring Star Wars.  Someone who will stick to canon and still have the ability to create an epic tale and plaster it on the silver-screen.

Thee used to be a story in Hollywood after the appalling 'Phantom Menace' came out that the best recipe to make a Star Wars film was:

George Lucas

A big dog

A script.

The only thing the dog had to do was bite Lucas any time he tried to touch the script.

Originally posted by jaxsundane

I think I read this comment in the newest Game Informer a writer was speaking about the E3 presentation of TOR and he implied jokingly that maybe Lucas should retire and just allow Bioware to handle the Star Wars IP.  The reason I brought this up is because I ironically have thought this ever since the first trilogy released was quite certain I would rather see something like that after the last trilogy (which unlike most I actually liked).  But I say this because outside of the announcement of them finally doing the last trilogy when is the last time Lucas did anything with the IP that was either exciting to anticipate or even any good once released.

  Sometimes I get a bit bothered by all the lore junkies who cry and moan about messing up the lore etc. but I admit that Lucas has bothered me for years with his apparent disconnection with reality sci fi convention after sci fi convention they continue to underwhelm with the announcements they make, you have the dissapointments that were the last trilogy then of course the complete failure that was that god awful looking cartoon movie which I still can't even find enough interest in to watch the movie or the series on Cartoon Network and most recently that horrible presentation at San Diego comic con what in gods name is that my star wars stories crap?

 

  At one time I actually held out hope that Star Wars could be like the sci fi version of James Bond with multiple films under it's belt which anyone who read the early novels would know was very possible but please Lucas has his head so far up his own ass he doesn't seem to even know where it is.

  I'm not saying that the license should be used exclusively by Bioware but someone other than George has to be able to do a better job than the bone heads at LA.

Punctuatuion, learn it. Your post had many good points but was a pain to read due to the lack of punctuation.

Originally posted by Hrothmund

Originally posted by jaxsundane
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Punctuatuion, learn it. Your post had many good points but was a pain to read due to the lack of punctuation.

Spelling. That's what you need to learn.

What idiot thinks he could demand that someone else retires? Mind your own business already. If you dont like his products, dont buy them.

Originally posted by someforumguy

What idiot thinks he could demand that someone else retires? Mind your own business already. If you dont like his products, dont buy them.

You can't kill the guy for having an opinion and also you have to open your mind a bit on this topic if you are a Star Wars fan.  Fans who love Star Wars don't want to wake up one day and George Lucas announced he's making a new Star Wars movie where all the main actors are unicorns with glowing light-saber horns

Fans who love Star Wars appreciate the role Lucas played and while true we could just not buy his product if we feel it has move on to another level we don't like; the greater gripe is that fans (die-hard fans) don't want the Star Wars Universe to get watered down into something like what the Star Trek line of movies the Next Generation crew turned into.  While still good, they kind of didn't fit into the overall story line of the Star Trek world (I'm mainly talking about the ST: Nemesis).

Originally posted by Moirae

Chill. Lucasarts, Skywalker Sound and Industrial Light and Magic are three of the biggest and most influential companies in the world. They are also incredibly good at what they do.

 

Get over it.

The second two companies are as you described, the first one, not so much.  Skywalker Sound and ILM are technical companies that are great at what they do.  LucasArts was once a pioneer in the gaming industry, but they long ago left what made them a pioneer behind.  As soon as the prequel films were announced, LEC switched from making a wide range of games in various genres, to a company that churned out crappy Star Wars titles with few Indiana Jones titles here and there.

The only decent games LEC has published in the past ten years were made by outside companies (Jedi Knight games, KotOR, and the Lego games).  As shown over the past decade, LEC is not good at what they do.  They do occasionally let someone who is good make something worthwhile with their IPs, but that could arguably be little more than luck, as opposed to competence.

Lucas owns it, it's his baby and he can do what he wants with it.

He's still got a lot of money left to make.

I agree. Lucas is visionary and very intelligent guy. A person who creates something like Star Wars deserve respect. The new generation is ungrateful and impatient.

Lucas reminds me of Gene Rodenberry. Someone who had a great idea, but was only good when others picked up the ball and ran with it.

Anyone who knows anything about movie history or even literature history can plainly see the idea itself was pretty obvious and straightforward. The key to the success of Star Wars was its execution.

The movie brats (Spielberg, Coppola, Lucas et al) were not about new or good ideas. They were all about taking traditional genres and conventions and making them look majestic and thrilling again.

So you have not seen the cartoon movie or tv series yet call it lame? I have to admit I did not have high hopes for it but the movie was enjoyable and I always seemed to eat at CiCis(which plays cartoon network) whenever it was on and found it was good too. This is his IP, I do not want to see all of the other stories turned into movies. Leave it at the 6, it is only diloutting the IP more to make more movies. Do you know anything about where the James Bond movies come from? Most of them were books written by one person. There are enough books that its pretty easy to write new stories for Bond. Lucas did 1-6 and thats all, every thing else is just second hand stuff not wirrten by the creator of the franchise.