Im personally glad. I HATE the Alliance, now I can take my Pallie to the good side :) My wife and I always wished we were Horde after about lvl 50 ish on our server, and well just too busy to bother re rolling. Now my life is getting back into order, got my business off the ground, I can play WOW again (with another game). When this goes live we ll re sub right away, Horde here we come thank god.

World of Warcraft has been taken over by casuals. Mums are playing it with their kids, your nan is playing it and even your 12 year old cousins. These people don't understand the basic rules of 'Vanilla WoW'. You pick your faction/race/class and that is what and who you are inside the game. I really dont care if your friend choose a different faction and now you can't play together... waa waa waa... that is your problem you should have choose the same faction then shouldn't you..

If this had happened 4 years ago, you'd have to level a new character to play with your friends. You'd have to invest time into the game. But now you just need a Visa credit card and bam your now the opposite faction! MMORPG? Nahhhhhhhh not anymore, just a boring easy mode casual game for people who came straight from TheSims or CookingMama. They may as well rename it for all I care cause it aint the same game it was supposed to be when they created it.

And as for putting in all the functions that people asked for like XP from PVP, Yah they did ask for all these things as well as faction change but as long as they keep putting in every little function that the trolls ask for the game will be on par with Free Realms.

My crystal ball also predicts that Henchmen will be added to the game (IE Guild Wars) so that you can raid as much as you like with out having to invite annoying real people who afk just blatently suck and ruin your fun. If enough people ask for this at the Blizzard forums you'll get it..

Originally posted by arthen999

Originally posted by johnspartan

Jan 25-31, 2009

1. World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King / Blizzard / $39 (Average)
2. The Sims 2 Double Deluxe / EA Maxis / $20 (Average)
3. Spore / EA Maxis / $47 (Average)
4. Left 4 Dead / Valve / $41 (Average)
5. World Of Warcraft Battle Chest / Blizzard / $38 (Average)
6. Fallout 3 / Bethesda / $47 (Average)
7. World Of Warcraft / Blizzard / $19 (Average)
8. The Sims 2 Apartment Life Exp. Pack / EA Maxis / $19 (Average)
9. Civilization IV / Firaxis / $24 (Average)
10. Call Of Duty: World At War / Treyarch / $47 (Average)

PC game Sales figures.

WoW was only in the top 10 three times in terms of sales figures from January... at numbers 1, 5, and 7....

I'll see if I can find some more recent numbers...

Thats strange in europe Warcraft and its expansions are normally available for aprox 15 us dollars . I ve argued a long time that its the in game children of school age to play .Which is its strength because kids bow to pier pressure and play . It only takes another game to take its place as the cool game and Warcraft will see a massive decline . Its not if its when and theres no guarantee that wow 2 will appeal if blizzard has such a bad name by the time its released that people think well we saw what they did with wow 1 and we did nt like it .

Well I for one intend to sick around for a while yet. Admittedly that's because my eye sight is bad and I like the bright colours.

I think like anything the numbers of WoW will drop - that's a natural part of a product's life-cycle and Warcraft will be replaced by other games in the public mind. However, the core group will remain and it'll be those who continue to make the game worth playing. After all, I know people who still play Neverwinter Nights online and create new material for it.

hmm changin faction is actually realistic in warcraft lore.

those damn humans are backstabin bastards and morons in every warcraft 3+tft mission.

SaetiaBelle - do you really believe light-brown text will prove your point? You say any nanny play WoW now? Of course, they can have fun and play at their heart's content. But WoW still caters to hardcore. Have you downed Yogg Saron with 0 keepers? How about Algalon on 25 man?  Have you reached 9k achi points or more? If not, you have nothing to say here. One of the main reasons WoW is such a success is because grandmothers and even hardcore players like Ensidia can find amusing and challenging ways to play it.

Oh, and btw, I play in a guild where every member is 20+ players, so keep your "only kids play WoW" to yourselves, please. They say AoC is played only by mature and grown up people. Have you ever spent a minute there reading the global chat? I gurantee you, you won't find greater immaturity on any WoW server.

And btw, if there are indeed two new playable races for the next expansion, the faction change will prove to be the most awesome thing ever.

Switching factions?  really?  How is that a good idea?   Really it does not fit into the Warcraft Lore at all but who cares about lore.

WoW is an easy mode game that is getting easier by the day.  Only challenge left in WoW are raids and if the majority of the player base has anything to say about it.   Raids will become soloable shortly.

Originally posted by Krewel

SaetiaBelle - do you really believe light-brown text will prove your point? You say any nanny play WoW now? Of course, they can have fun and play at their heart's content. But WoW still caters to hardcore. Have you downed Yogg Saron with 0 keepers? How about Algalon on 25 man?  Have you reached 9k achi points or more? If not, you have nothing to say here. One of the main reasons WoW is such a success is because grandmothers and even hardcore players like Ensidia can find amusing and challenging ways to play it.

Oh, and btw, I play in a guild where every member is 20+ players, so keep your "only kids play WoW" to yourselves, please. They say AoC is played only by mature and grown up people. Have you ever spent a minute there reading the global chat? I gurantee you, you won't find greater immaturity on any WoW server.

 

And btw, if there are indeed two new playable races for the next expansion, the faction change will prove to be the most awesome thing ever.

Perhaps the next races should be neutral and players can chose what faction they want to join at character creation....

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Switching factions?  really?  How is that a good idea?   Really it does not fit into the Warcraft Lore at all but who cares about lore.

WoW is an easy mode game that is getting easier by the day.  Only challenge left in WoW are raids and if the majority of the player base has anything to say about it.   Raids will become soloable shortly.

Here's a trip on the clue train for you;  Blizzard wants to make money.  I know, crazy, but it's true.  Stop the presses.  They have to create and manage a game thats played by -millions- of people.  Not 50k.  Not 300k.  Not even 750k, which would be considered a roaring success when used in reference to -any other MMO currently on the market today-.  We're talking millions of subscriptions.  Creating content that is only seen and accessable by 5% (if that) of your most-obsessive playerbase, then tuning the game to those standards, is IDIOTIC, when you're dealing with millions of paying customers.  Of course it's getting "easier".  They want to have more people playing, so they get their subscription fees.  Most normal people, when dissatisfied with a game, stop playing it.  That means no more money for Blizzard.  So you think they are going to cater to a bunch of whining r-tards on the internet that will incessantly bitch over any little thing, or will they do what keeps that vast silent majority paying the fees.  Tough decision there. 

So, keep right on bitching and complaining about it getting easier and more carebear.  The people that matter don't care...the people that decide with their wallets. Not with the 'Post Message' button to launch their nerd-rage spazz onto some irrelevant forum.

Good god, it's not like any MMO could be considered hard, unless your idea of hard somehow relates to how much time you can sink into something, pushing the same little buttons in the right sequence over and over.  Yeah, super hard. 

As for your comment about lore; irrelevant as well.  You won't see Orcs running around in Stormwind, or Gnomes hanging out in Orgrimmar.  The faction change comes with a racial switch.  Your Undead Warlock would become a Human Warlock, etc.  Which is why it's taking so long to implement, since they have to come up with a way to translate all the racial-specific crap (mounts, achievements, etc) into the comparable opposite-faction equivelent.  If you'd have read even a little bit about this at all, you'd know this.  But actual reading and research would prevent people from mindlessly bitching, and who wants that?

At the end of the day WoW is just a game and being able to switch factions is a cool little idea. I know I am tired of playing the Horde, and look forward to switching my main to an Alliance race, probably will even transfer to a new server for a fresh start.

Also will let me use my Hierloom items for some Alliance alts I've been toying around with.

In terms of gameplay, it's a great idea IMO.

Instead of trolling go re-read Ebens post. Then read it again because you probably still didnt get it. ^_^ great post. Mind you 99% of the people moaning here are of the type that go

'the game is too easy - but I darent try hard mode, lest it be hard'

Originally posted by johnspartan

At the end of the day WoW is just a game and being able to switch factions is a cool little idea. I know I am tired of playing the Horde, and look forward to switching my main to an Alliance race, probably will even transfer to a new server for a fresh start.

Also will let me use my Hierloom items for some Alliance alts I've been toying around with.

In terms of gameplay, it's a great idea IMO.

I feel exactly the same way.  I've been playing Horde since '06, and only dabbled a bit into the Alliance side here and there.  Don't think I've ever had an Alliance toon that got above 25.  I know some would scream "oH bt u cud roll a dK n strt @55 lol nub"...yeah, that's true, if it weren't for the fact that DKs have replaced Huntards as the most hated class in the game, and will carry that stigma for a while to come. 

Personal opinions aside.

People have asked for it and Blizzard has complied. Plus it makes them extra money.

Originally posted by thexrated

Personal opinions aside.

People have asked for it and Blizzard has complied. Plus it makes them extra money.

 

Exactly. I love it when people complain that Blizzard actually listens to their playerbase.

For many and for such an old game, this is a much needed possible change. Who knows how it will take shape!?!? There will probably be a monetary transaction and cooldown involved and other stipulations but at this point, Blizzard probably isn't even sure.

As I have said before, thank god Blizzard does not listen to the 5% of bitter former WOW players who frequent these forums and whine about every little thing Blizzard does. If they had their way, we would all be playing pre-Luclin EQ and loving it. Damn you innovation! Damn you developers listening to your players! Damn you players for asking for something!

I am a perfect example of how and why this faction change could be a great thing. When I started WOW, I was in a hardcore raiding guild on Blackhand - Alliance side. After a year of 40 man raids, the guild fell apart and many friendships broke apart. I moved on to play Horde and have been with the same guild for years now. However, my little Dwarf Pally is stuck on Blackhand and I think is maybe 61 or so. I HATE playing Alliance right now and hate even more, being stuck on a very old server with a bunch of hardcore raiders.

I would play that Pally again in a moment if I could bring him over to my other server on the Horde side where many of my friends play and with a guild that is honestly the best guild I have ever been in. Right now I cannot, so he is sitting there gathering dust. It is sad really because he was my first character ever and I still have a lot of nostalgia around playing him.

Sure, I could level another Pally on the Horde side but I hate Blood Elves and I already have 4 Horde characters so why level another.

It will be a good change, that very few players will take advantage off, will mainly benefit a lot of the old vets like myself and still, I have yet to see any good reasons why this will be a bad thing.

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Switching factions?  really?  How is that a good idea?   Really it does not fit into the Warcraft Lore at all but who cares about lore.

WoW is an easy mode game that is getting easier by the day.  Only challenge left in WoW are raids and if the majority of the player base has anything to say about it.   Raids will become soloable shortly.

 

Here's a trip on the clue train for you;  Blizzard wants to make money.  I know, crazy, but it's true.  Stop the presses.  They have to create and manage a game thats played by -millions- of people.  Not 50k.  Not 300k.  Not even 750k, which would be considered a roaring success when used in reference to -any other MMO currently on the market today-.  We're talking millions of subscriptions.  Creating content that is only seen and accessable by 5% (if that) of your most-obsessive playerbase, then tuning the game to those standards, is IDIOTIC, when you're dealing with millions of paying customers.  Of course it's getting "easier".  They want to have more people playing, so they get their subscription fees.  Most normal people, when dissatisfied with a game, stop playing it.  That means no more money for Blizzard.  So you think they are going to cater to a bunch of whining r-tards on the internet that will incessantly bitch over any little thing, or will they do what keeps that vast silent majority paying the fees.  Tough decision there. 

So, keep right on bitching and complaining about it getting easier and more carebear.  The people that matter don't care...the people that decide with their wallets. Not with the 'Post Message' button to launch their nerd-rage spazz onto some irrelevant forum.

Good god, it's not like any MMO could be considered hard, unless your idea of hard somehow relates to how much time you can sink into something, pushing the same little buttons in the right sequence over and over.  Yeah, super hard. 

As for your comment about lore; irrelevant as well.  You won't see Orcs running around in Stormwind, or Gnomes hanging out in Orgrimmar.  The faction change comes with a racial switch.  Your Undead Warlock would become a Human Warlock, etc.  Which is why it's taking so long to implement, since they have to come up with a way to translate all the racial-specific crap (mounts, achievements, etc) into the comparable opposite-faction equivelent.  If you'd have read even a little bit about this at all, you'd know this.  But actual reading and research would prevent people from mindlessly bitching, and who wants that?

I did read it... So you can just transfer your charater back and forth with out pulling an effort into building a new toon... hmm seems like "easy" mode to me.
 

I like to be forced to think and figure things out while playing my MMOs and video games in general.  Easy is not fun... Having the developer hold my hand though out the game and not allow me to make mistakes is not fun.

Sure people like WoW because its easy but that is ruining the genre for the rest of us that enjoy having to use that thing between our ears.   The more Money Blizzard makes the worst the genre is getting.

Big developers want Blizzard like subs, which is not going to happen but they will keep pumping out these easy mode watered down MMOs with zero challenge involved trying to match WoW.   This sucks for us gamers that want to be challenged.  

And btw the lore comment is not irrelevant.... So its okay for Darth Vader to transform into a Jedi Knight when ever he feels like not being on the Darkside for the week.... that is basicly the same thing as what WoW is going to let players do.... its wrong.  Whats the point of having factions at all?   They do not matter what so ever now ... that is what blizzard is saying with this change.

So to the OP, a company giving players more choices regarding their play style is bad?

More choice is always good, it keeps the game fresh and  a change like this is what keeps Blizzard on top.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Switching factions?  really?  How is that a good idea?   Really it does not fit into the Warcraft Lore at all but who cares about lore.

WoW is an easy mode game that is getting easier by the day.  Only challenge left in WoW are raids and if the majority of the player base has anything to say about it.   Raids will become soloable shortly.

 

Here's a trip on the clue train for you;  Blizzard wants to make money.  I know, crazy, but it's true.  Stop the presses.  They have to create and manage a game thats played by -millions- of people.  Not 50k.  Not 300k.  Not even 750k, which would be considered a roaring success when used in reference to -any other MMO currently on the market today-.  We're talking millions of subscriptions.  Creating content that is only seen and accessable by 5% (if that) of your most-obsessive playerbase, then tuning the game to those standards, is IDIOTIC, when you're dealing with millions of paying customers.  Of course it's getting "easier".  They want to have more people playing, so they get their subscription fees.  Most normal people, when dissatisfied with a game, stop playing it.  That means no more money for Blizzard.  So you think they are going to cater to a bunch of whining r-tards on the internet that will incessantly bitch over any little thing, or will they do what keeps that vast silent majority paying the fees.  Tough decision there. 

So, keep right on bitching and complaining about it getting easier and more carebear.  The people that matter don't care...the people that decide with their wallets. Not with the 'Post Message' button to launch their nerd-rage spazz onto some irrelevant forum.

Good god, it's not like any MMO could be considered hard, unless your idea of hard somehow relates to how much time you can sink into something, pushing the same little buttons in the right sequence over and over.  Yeah, super hard. 

As for your comment about lore; irrelevant as well.  You won't see Orcs running around in Stormwind, or Gnomes hanging out in Orgrimmar.  The faction change comes with a racial switch.  Your Undead Warlock would become a Human Warlock, etc.  Which is why it's taking so long to implement, since they have to come up with a way to translate all the racial-specific crap (mounts, achievements, etc) into the comparable opposite-faction equivelent.  If you'd have read even a little bit about this at all, you'd know this.  But actual reading and research would prevent people from mindlessly bitching, and who wants that?

I did read it... So you can just transfer your charater back and forth with out pulling an effort into building a new toon... hmm seems like "easy" mode to me.
 

I like to be forced to think and figure things out while playing my MMOs and video games in general.  Easy is not fun... Having the developer hold my hand though out the game and not allow me to make mistakes is not fun.

Sure people like WoW because its easy but that is ruining the genre for the rest of us that enjoy having to use that thing between our ears.   The more Money Blizzard makes the worst the genre is getting.

Big developers want Blizzard like subs, which is not going to happen but they will keep pumping out these easy mode watered down MMOs with zero challenge involved trying to match WoW.   This sucks for us gamers that want to be challenged.  

And btw the lore comment is not irrelevant.... So its okay for Darth Vader to transform into a Jedi Knight when ever he feels like not being on the Darkside for the week.... that is basicly the same thing as what WoW is going to let players do.... its wrong.  Whats the point of having factions at all?   They do not matter what so ever now ... that is what blizzard is saying with this change.

oh god oh plz oh god oh will you purchase some common sense on ebay plz...

there is a HUGE difference between EASY / HARD and TIME CONSUMING / NOT TIME CONSUMING...

EASY DOESN'T EQUAL TO NOT TIME CONSUMING...

i swear you people have the brains of a RETARD COCKROACH

Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Switching factions?  really?  How is that a good idea?   Really it does not fit into the Warcraft Lore at all but who cares about lore.

WoW is an easy mode game that is getting easier by the day.  Only challenge left in WoW are raids and if the majority of the player base has anything to say about it.   Raids will become soloable shortly.

 

Here's a trip on the clue train for you;  Blizzard wants to make money.  I know, crazy, but it's true.  Stop the presses.  They have to create and manage a game thats played by -millions- of people.  Not 50k.  Not 300k.  Not even 750k, which would be considered a roaring success when used in reference to -any other MMO currently on the market today-.  We're talking millions of subscriptions.  Creating content that is only seen and accessable by 5% (if that) of your most-obsessive playerbase, then tuning the game to those standards, is IDIOTIC, when you're dealing with millions of paying customers.  Of course it's getting "easier".  They want to have more people playing, so they get their subscription fees.  Most normal people, when dissatisfied with a game, stop playing it.  That means no more money for Blizzard.  So you think they are going to cater to a bunch of whining r-tards on the internet that will incessantly bitch over any little thing, or will they do what keeps that vast silent majority paying the fees.  Tough decision there. 

So, keep right on bitching and complaining about it getting easier and more carebear.  The people that matter don't care...the people that decide with their wallets. Not with the 'Post Message' button to launch their nerd-rage spazz onto some irrelevant forum.

Good god, it's not like any MMO could be considered hard, unless your idea of hard somehow relates to how much time you can sink into something, pushing the same little buttons in the right sequence over and over.  Yeah, super hard. 

As for your comment about lore; irrelevant as well.  You won't see Orcs running around in Stormwind, or Gnomes hanging out in Orgrimmar.  The faction change comes with a racial switch.  Your Undead Warlock would become a Human Warlock, etc.  Which is why it's taking so long to implement, since they have to come up with a way to translate all the racial-specific crap (mounts, achievements, etc) into the comparable opposite-faction equivelent.  If you'd have read even a little bit about this at all, you'd know this.  But actual reading and research would prevent people from mindlessly bitching, and who wants that?

I did read it... So you can just transfer your charater back and forth with out pulling an effort into building a new toon... hmm seems like "easy" mode to me.
 

I like to be forced to think and figure things out while playing my MMOs and video games in general.  Easy is not fun... Having the developer hold my hand though out the game and not allow me to make mistakes is not fun.

Sure people like WoW because its easy but that is ruining the genre for the rest of us that enjoy having to use that thing between our ears.   The more Money Blizzard makes the worst the genre is getting.

Big developers want Blizzard like subs, which is not going to happen but they will keep pumping out these easy mode watered down MMOs with zero challenge involved trying to match WoW.   This sucks for us gamers that want to be challenged.  

And btw the lore comment is not irrelevant.... So its okay for Darth Vader to transform into a Jedi Knight when ever he feels like not being on the Darkside for the week.... that is basicly the same thing as what WoW is going to let players do.... its wrong.  Whats the point of having factions at all?   They do not matter what so ever now ... that is what blizzard is saying with this change.

oh god oh plz oh god oh will you purchase some common sense on ebay plz...

 

there is a HUGE difference between EASY / HARD and TIME CONSUMING / NOT TIME CONSUMING...

EASY DOESN'T EQUAL TO NOT TIME CONSUMING...

i swear you people have the brains of a RETARD COCKROACH

No kidding, were did I say that hard = time consuming? .....  Easy has nothing to do with the time involved.   Sorry but I have a ton of common sense... you do not.  Proved by your post.  Where did I say that time consuming = hard in my post?  

Its easy because they hold your hand though out the game.... other then raiding,,, you are led by the hand to max level... It requires no skill or thinking at all.  Collect the quest, follow your mini map, gain exp... no challenge, no thinking, no problems solving.   Video games should require problem solving, thinking and have some challenge to them.  

Sorry I like to think and figure things out for myself when playing Video games... including MMOs.   WoW guides you though the game.   Every quest is marked clearly on your map, how is that not easy?  

Maybe if you had to think  once in a while you people would understand that easy/hard has nothing to do with time.

Originally posted by Krewel

SaetiaBelle - do you really believe light-brown text will prove your point? You say any nanny play WoW now? Of course, they can have fun and play at their heart's content. But WoW still caters to hardcore. Have you downed Yogg Saron with 0 keepers? How about Algalon on 25 man?  Have you reached 9k achi points or more? If not, you have nothing to say here. One of the main reasons WoW is such a success is because grandmothers and even hardcore players like Ensidia can find amusing and challenging ways to play it.

Oh, and btw, I play in a guild where every member is 20+ players, so keep your "only kids play WoW" to yourselves, please. They say AoC is played only by mature and grown up people. Have you ever spent a minute there reading the global chat? I gurantee you, you won't find greater immaturity on any WoW server.

 

And btw, if there are indeed two new playable races for the next expansion, the faction change will prove to be the most awesome thing ever.

Just about every post I make on every forum I am registered to is in colour, because I like colours. Ok.

I haven't downed Yogg Saron no because I am not addicted to that game anymore and I have been playing a different game since before this Yogg Saron thing was implemented. I have no idea how many achi points I got either. Is 9k alot? I don't know. The game wasn't interesting enough for me to pay £9 a month to collect achi points ;\

Wow might be a success because grandmothers play it, but I'd rather not play games that my nan likes. My nan plays solitaire and that game is even bigger success but it doesn't make me wanna go play it does it. 

I didnt say only kids play wow. I said 'even 12 year olds play it'... Nor did I insult the immaturity of the game. Did you ever read the thread posted on here where it compared WoW to Mario ? You should because it's completely true.

Oh and two new playable races for the expansion is a myth. Worgan/Goblin... Ok you obviously hang out at mmochampion.

PS I haven't played AoC nor do I want to. Oh and I'm doing this one blue isn't it great

Originally posted by googajoob7

well very soon you ll be able to change your alliance character into a horde and visa versa . what a horrible idea . i dont know why blizzard are so intent of destroying warcrafts gameplay for short term gain but thats whats happening . i know its still pretty popular but everythings so dumbed down and easy now so as to appeal to kids and this move really takes the cake . but i would like to thank blizzard of curing me of my warcraft addiction every time i think i might go back i see something like this to remind me how godawful things have become in this game now .  what a shame .

Blizzard, you are dead to me!!!

...oh wait, they've been dead to me for years now...what the hell am I talking about...

Seem to remember people screaming "this is the end of wow" when blizzard added the features to transfer your toon between PvE and PvP severs, when blizzard added the feature to rename your toon and when blizzard added the feature to change the sex of the toon.

WoW if anything grew stronger after those added features.. for one simple reason, players want these features.

Why wont Blizzard stop giving players what they want? bunch of fools.

BTW: Wotlk is no.2 on the sales charts for last month, vanilia wow and TBC expansion are also in the top 10. WoW is doing fine thankyou.

Originally posted by coffee

Seem to remember people screaming "this is the end of wow" when blizzard added the features to transfer your toon between PvE and PvP severs, when blizzard added the feature to rename your toon and when blizzard added the feature to change the sex of the toon.

WoW if anything grew stronger after those added features.. for one simple reason, players want these features.

Why wont Blizzard stop giving players what they want? bunch of fools.

BTW: Wotlk is no.2 on the sales charts for last month, vanilia wow and TBC expansion are also in the top 10. WoW is doing fine thankyou.

WoW is doing fine at the expense of us games that want  challenge and problem solving in our game. 

WoW is a good game, do not mis understand me... The problem is the better WoW does, the worst the genre gets because everyone wants to get subs like WoW so they copy it.   That is my reason for not liking WoW.

I don't care what little features or gimmicks they add, I'm never subbing again. At least not until they do a complete overhaul of class balance.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Originally posted by coffee

Seem to remember people screaming "this is the end of wow" when blizzard added the features to transfer your toon between PvE and PvP severs, when blizzard added the feature to rename your toon and when blizzard added the feature to change the sex of the toon.

WoW if anything grew stronger after those added features.. for one simple reason, players want these features.

Why wont Blizzard stop giving players what they want? bunch of fools.

BTW: Wotlk is no.2 on the sales charts for last month, vanilia wow and TBC expansion are also in the top 10. WoW is doing fine thankyou.

 

WoW is doing fine at the expense of us games that want  challenge and problem solving in our game. 

WoW is a good game, do not mis understand me... The problem is the better WoW does, the worst the genre gets because everyone wants to get subs like WoW so they copy it.   That is my reason for not liking WoW.

For those posting their WOW hate in these forums and react to ANYTHING just to vomit all over a fantastic game with a huge succesful following ...

Reread the blue and think: what is the logic behind this all ???

You don't like WOW because it just is better than what the rest has to offer to get to "the goldmine".

It's the same thing as saying: "Hey Barcelona is a great football team, but it simply is too good so the rest can't compete, so I hate Barcelona."

Great logic.

Tx Blizzard to help out the fans with these constantly new and helping tools.

Just ignore the 1% WoW haters: it is the paying fans that count.

www.xfire.com

The WoW haters are upset over this because it is a feature people actually want. Which means Blizzard will be making a ton more money and will further cement Blizzard as the king of MMOs.

They give reasons like "dumbing down" or "greedy" or even "lore" to make their rants seem less insane.

I guess the idea that an MMO developer would listen to its fans and actually give them what they want(within reason) is such a foreign concept to the WoW haters because something like that never happens with their current favorite MMO.

What would be even of interest to see is Blizzard allowing players on PVE servers factional means to be neutral or even friendly toward the other faction.  So  if players what to do pvp they have to pay to move to actual pvp servers where the cheating gankers are located....