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Broomy

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7/19/09 7:28:34 PM#201
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

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Teala

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"Really officer, they're herbs."

7/19/09 7:29:23 PM#202
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Teala

I posted what I did when others decided to attack my country with verbage rather than discuss the main topic of the thread.    My post I created is true and I dare you or anyone to try to deny what I wrote is not true.   I did not start this thread and I do not care for the original title of it - it was poorly written.   Nevertheless, the total hate and disdain that was aimed ay my country was uncalled for and not necessary.   So I thought I would retrun the favor and point out that America may not be all that - but neither is anyone elses.    I think this thread needs deleted.   It should have not been allowed to stay active this long.
 


 

What you did was point out the faults of other countries because you couldnt respond to what was being said about yours.  This my Dear is commonly called a "Cop-Out".  And most people dont like copouts.  And whats the obsession with getting this thread deleted?  Feeling exposed?  Probably. 


 

No it is called defending through the use of experiences.   When induviduals such as yourself fail to look back at history and to recognize that man is capable of terrible things no matter what race, creed or religion they maybe - whether in the here and now or in the past - and "you" point fingers at one instead of all - then it is customary to point out that none is free of sin.   I am not religious - but someone was once quoted as saying 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone..' - I like to think this is a good thing for all to learn.   Some just seem to think of them as silly words.  I do not however.   Because they make a lot of since.


 

Please spare me the BS,  people always point fingers when they cant face the truth about themselves.  Sorry kid but it's not flying here.  I will repeat what you said: America was a good ideal...I asked for whom?  You then frantically began pointing fingers at other countries and their faults and history.  That's how it went down. 

The TOPIC was related to  america not the "evil that men do".  And dont throw biblical verses at me, considering your responses and posts,  that's close to blasphemy. 

Have I once said America is perfect?  Even once?  If so please point it out to me.   I know people like you.   I know how you thrive on hate.   So be my guest.    It is all you are capable of.   That is why you continue to generalize and point a finger at America and say - you are evil.    Well I know better.   I know the truth.   I know that America may not be perfect, but I can tell you this, after traveling to many places and other countries on this planet - I am so glad I was born and raised here and live in the US.   
 

Lazarus71

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Joined: 9/22/04
Posts: 341

Sun Tzu: He who wishes to fight must first count the cost.

7/19/09 7:31:06 PM#203
Originally posted by demolishIX
Originally posted by thexrated

Enough said.

This thread delivers. Sorry could not resist.

 

 Shh,she is half Asian and half European,she isnt true blood american.

 

 Americans are soo smart,I wish I was one... but I can never talk in such an arrogant manner and wear such thick sunglasses that I would only see my own reflection and nothing else.

I think its obvious you are just a person who feeds off of sarting big pointless arguments. I am American and I am none of the things you describe as the typical american. I can also proudly say that the majority of people I know do not fit into that category either becuase if they did I would not socialize with them. All the horrible traits you descibe as American only are found in every Nation and every people in the world. I have friends in the gaming community from multiple nations and races and I can say with out any doubt the ones from the UK would be embarassed to think you are a reprasentative of the people in their country.  In short open up your mind becuase I refuse to think that anyone can be as close minded and ignorant as you pretend to be.
 

 

Broomy

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Posts: 230

7/19/09 7:33:34 PM#204
Originally posted by Teala

Have I once said America is perfect?  Even once?  If so please point it out to me.   I know people like you.   I know how you thrive on hate.   So be my guest.    It is all you are capable of.   That is why you continue to generalize and point a finger at America and say - you are evil.    Well I know better.   I know the truth.   I know that America may not be perfect, but I can tell you this, after traveling to many places and other countries on this planet - I am so glad I was born and raised here and live in the US.   
 


 

The only hater is you.  Keep pointing fingers Dear, cause you have been found out.  I highly doubt you have ever traveled outside the stateline.  But whatever, internet is made for liars, enjoy yourself.  And next time you CAN'T defend your arguement, just do us all a favor and shutup.  Finger pointing is truly disgusting. 

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MisterZebub

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7/19/09 7:33:50 PM#205
Originally posted by grandpagamer
Originally posted by thexrated
Originally posted by Shastra

 


Originally posted by MisterZebub

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by IronZ

 

The best part about being American??
Watching/listening to all the whiny bitches out there get butt hurt when someone says they love being American, lmao.  Losers.
I would love for America to shut itself off from the rest of the world for a year or so.  No imports, no exports, no military action, NO GIVING MONEY TO WORTHLESS FUCK CUNTREES THAT HATE US ANYWAY, no nuthin'.   Fuck the world and let it carry on without us.  Oh, well, we'll export the Obamination first.... you can have him.  Let's make Americans depend on themselves again and let the world worry about itself..  Line up a shit ton of nukes and tell the radicals out there to bring it!  Take the illegals and catapult them back over the border.  You have your own countries to ruin, leave ours alone.
I look at some of the other countries out there and wonder how in the world they hate us so much.  There are far more fucked up places to be than the states, that I assure you.
Z


 

 
And that Ladies and Gents is the fundamental mindset of ameri-cants.  Racist, stupid, uneducated and inbred.  Thanks IronZ for basically proving my point.
Let's rejoice! 
 



 
HERE HERE!! You know Broomy, Ironz does have one good point. ALL the illegal aliens should be shipped back to where they came from. I'm sure the Native American Tribes would be delighted to get rid of them. Or am I incorrect in thniking the European explores didn't have valid passports and entry visas?

 

Everyone except for Indians is illegal alien in America.

Nonono, apparently Americans have a special priviledge to either forget or use revisionist history when it otherwise would not be favorable for them.

The privilege of writing history goes to the victors. God, guns and guts baby. God bless America.

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Lazarus71

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Posts: 341

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7/19/09 7:35:28 PM#206
Originally posted by MisterZebub

Man. If only the OP had said WESTERNIZE Aion.


 

From your lips to gods ears......

Rabenwolf

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7/19/09 8:24:00 PM#207
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

 

Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.

The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.

 

Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.

 

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

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aleos

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Posts: 781

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7/19/09 8:38:14 PM#208

BEHOLD! i am america. And i hearby say this thread makes america laugh. HA-HA-HA. Such inferior beings.

 

                                                             

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grandpagamer

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Posts: 1666

7/19/09 8:43:04 PM#209
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Teala

I posted what I did when others decided to attack my country with verbage rather than discuss the main topic of the thread.    My post I created is true and I dare you or anyone to try to deny what I wrote is not true.   I did not start this thread and I do not care for the original title of it - it was poorly written.   Nevertheless, the total hate and disdain that was aimed ay my country was uncalled for and not necessary.   So I thought I would retrun the favor and point out that America may not be all that - but neither is anyone elses.    I think this thread needs deleted.   It should have not been allowed to stay active this long.
 


 

What you did was point out the faults of other countries because you couldnt respond to what was being said about yours.  This my Dear is commonly called a "Cop-Out".  And most people dont like copouts.  And whats the obsession with getting this thread deleted?  Feeling exposed?  Probably. 


 

No it is called defending through the use of experiences.   When induviduals such as yourself fail to look back at history and to recognize that man is capable of terrible things no matter what race, creed or religion they maybe - whether in the here and now or in the past - and "you" point fingers at one instead of all - then it is customary to point out that none is free of sin.   I am not religious - but someone was once quoted as saying 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone..' - I like to think this is a good thing for all to learn.   Some just seem to think of them as silly words.  I do not however.   Because they make a lot of since.


 

Please spare me the BS,  people always point fingers when they cant face the truth about themselves.  Sorry kid but it's not flying here.  I will repeat what you said: America was a good ideal...I asked for whom?  You then frantically began pointing fingers at other countries and their faults and history.  That's how it went down. 

The TOPIC was related to  america not the "evil that men do".  And dont throw biblical verses at me, considering your responses and posts,  that's close to blasphemy. 

Judge not and ye shall not be judged

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Umbral

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Joined: 5/29/08
Posts: 936

7/19/09 8:43:41 PM#210
Originally posted by dunesw64

 

Which proves who your racist logic is backwards. The Wright brothers couldn't have invented flying because they were aware of flying from birds, hence they didn't invent the airplane. So in your retarded mind...


 

 

Santos Dumont.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Santos-Dumont

 

 

Not trying to proove anything, Wrgiht Brothers also had their contribuition...

But in the end, what matters is that everything you said are human inventions, not regional inventions.

There are interesting and deep personalities all over the world, but usually north americans are a bit more self centered and know (care) a bit less about other cultures than people who live in other countries. This is very compreensive as the north american  entertainment/midia is very strong and self sufficient...

What I find a bit questionable is that most of negative aspects people are saing about North America here and almost everything some north americans are saying about Europe and other countries here are only based on what people see in the TV.... a person can only truly know a country or its people with real experiences.

 

...

MisterZebub

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7/19/09 8:44:54 PM#211
Originally posted by Rabenwolf
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

 

Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.

The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.

 

Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.

 

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

I think the only person in your post that is full of hypocrisy is you. Broomy was making the point that although he and IronZ are both Americans, IronZ does not speak for him. I see no difference between his defence or you getting a bug up your nose due to me as you put it "Speaking for the Native Americans." He is well within his rights to say and feel the things he says. Just as you are well within your rights to disagree with him. However you have no right to self rightously judge him as "less of an American than you." I personaly feel that, that kind of arrogant outlook right there is what has helped feed the America bashing in other countries.

Rabenwolf

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7/19/09 9:00:00 PM#212
Originally posted by MisterZebub
Originally posted by Rabenwolf
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

 

Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.

The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.

 

Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.

 

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

I think the only person in your post that is full of hypocrisy is you. Broomy was making the point that although he and IronZ are both Americans, IronZ does not speak for him. I see no difference between his defence or you getting a bug up your nose due to me as you put it "Speaking for the Native Americans." He is well within his rights to say and feel the things he says. Just as you are well within your rights to disagree with him. However you have no right to self rightously judge him as "less of an American than you." I personaly feel that, that kind of arrogant outlook right there is what has helped feed the America bashing in other countries.

 

Please point out where i said he was "less of an american"? I am merely pointing out certain gaps in logic, hypocrisy and silly statements used as a means for whats considered a weak response.

Its not hard to point out the fallacy of these types of people. If you were to say America is stupid, and refer to it as "ameri-cants" then, logically the person saying that is the contributing factor to that. Much like a dirty bum complaining that his box smells like crap, ignoring the fact he doesnt wipe and craps right next to it. The point is, why complain when you are the cause or contributing factor. ITs hypocrisy, im sorry you cant deal with that very well.

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Cyborg99

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Joined: 6/03/08
Posts: 558

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7/19/09 9:02:44 PM#213

Originally posted by aleos

Yeah lets throw in some southern flags and stay skinny magazines and a McDonalds. Thats how you americanize shit!
 

 

Yea put a gunrack on it and a 30-pack of paps, I'll play that .

Broomy

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Joined: 1/20/06
Posts: 230

7/19/09 10:39:29 PM#214
Originally posted by Rabenwolf
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

 

Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.

The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.

 

Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.

 

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

Other than throwing out insults I can see that your just another copout with nothing to say.  Distract, insult, compare, (now its all the immigrants that come here blah blah,) but never ever ever, respond to the atrocities this country has committed that perhaps some of us have enough courage to face.  People like you, whom I call AMERICAN'Ts, make me sick. 

One has to face one's history in order to overcome it.  One has to accept one's past inorder to move forward.  The cowardice I see here from Americants like you is precisely what people through out the world find revolting about this country.  I  would love to say that people like you are in the minority, but unfortunately I cant.  Too many ignorants like yourself exist in this country.  The best one can do is try at all costs to avoid you and hope there aren't too many of you that I need to be in contact with. 

 

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Ngeldu5t

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7/19/09 10:42:05 PM#215
Originally posted by grandpagamer

For me the Asian art style and the Asian feel in general is what attracks me to this game. Have heard drunken dwarves and arrogant elves for many years. Its a refreshing change for me. But thats just me.

 

Not just you my friend,not just you.

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Shastra

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Posts: 490

7/19/09 10:46:16 PM#216


Originally posted by Ngeldu5t

Originally posted by grandpagamer

For me the Asian art style and the Asian feel in general is what attracks me to this game. Have heard drunken dwarves and arrogant elves for many years. Its a refreshing change for me. But thats just me.



 
Not just you my friend,not just you.

I always get attracted to cultures different than mine, i don't care even if they do not AMERICANIZEEE it. I would still play AION since i am not a stuck up sob.

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TheHavok

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7/19/09 10:51:17 PM#217
Originally posted by firebug80

The only thing that boner breaks me about this game is the extreme Asian sound and sorta look. The combat sounds like an orgy in Tokyo I went to once.

Anyone know if you will redo some of the sound to English/ AMEER RICIN

 

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grandpagamer

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Joined: 1/08/08
Posts: 1666

7/19/09 11:04:54 PM#218
Originally posted by Shastra

 


Originally posted by Ngeldu5t

Originally posted by grandpagamer

 

For me the Asian art style and the Asian feel in general is what attracks me to this game. Have heard drunken dwarves and arrogant elves for many years. Its a refreshing change for me. But thats just me.



 
Not just you my friend,not just you.

 

I always get attracted to cultures different than mine, i don't care even if they do not AMERICANIZEEE it. I would still play AION since i am not a stuck up sob.

I do like the NPC's speaking english and the quests being in english, as i cant read or speak korean. But there is a reason it sounds, looks and feels asian.  Its because its asian :) Those that dont like the art or the way it sounds should perhaps look for something they like better. As ive stated on other threads,  the trolls can trash this game until sept. 22 and i will stil be at best buy picking up my preorder.

It has to be true, i have internet links.

Teala

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Posts: 4224

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7/19/09 11:29:57 PM#219
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Rabenwolf
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

 

Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.

The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.

 

Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.

 

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

Other than throwing out insults I can see that your just another copout with nothing to say.  Distract, insult, compare, (now its all the immigrants that come here blah blah,) but never ever ever, respond to the atrocities this country has committed that perhaps some of us have enough courage to face.  People like you, whom I call AMERICAN'Ts, make me sick. 

One has to face one's history in order to overcome it.  One has to accept one's past inorder to move forward.  The cowardice I see here from Americants like you is precisely what people through out the world find revolting about this country.  I  would love to say that people like you are in the minority, but unfortunately I cant.  Too many ignorants like yourself exist in this country.  The best one can do is try at all costs to avoid you and hope there aren't too many of you that I need to be in contact with. 

 


 

Must suck to be you huh?   Such a terrible shame that you were born and raised in this awful country and it really pains you doesn't it.   No other country is bad and only America is.  You say we need to look at our own past and overcome our own history and I see America doing that all the time.   We own up to our mistakes and our failings.    Just as most other countries do.    You keep slamming America and fail to realize that sure America has done some terrible things and most Americans realize this.   You seem to think you, I take it you are American, are above the rest of us Americans because you are somehow better?   Please explain?  

Also, of all the countries on this planet, name me one that is as diverse across the width and breadth of their nation as America is.  People say we do not have our own culture.   Well duh.   How can we?   We are made up of all the other nations and races.   Where else can so many nations live together and live as peacefully as we do here in America?   Name me one.    You can't because it doesn't exist but here.   America truly is a melting pot of all the world and you know what...that is what makes us great.   Our own ability to set aside certain things and allows us to come together as a nation of many nations and work together.    So again...tell me again how America is a bad place.    How America has committed such gruesome atrocities that would garner such hate from other nations.   You're so keen at pointing the finger at Americans - then explain what it is we did that makes us deserve this.  I am listening.

MisterZebub

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7/20/09 12:49:37 AM#220

"Where else can so many nations live together and live as peacefully as we do here in America? "

Canada?

Ngeldu5t

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7/20/09 1:54:57 AM#221
Originally posted by Teala
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Rabenwolf
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 

Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 

First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 

Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 

This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 

How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.

Cheers!

 

 

 

Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.

The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.

 

Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.

 

"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."

Other than throwing out insults I can see that your just another copout with nothing to say.  Distract, insult, compare, (now its all the immigrants that come here blah blah,) but never ever ever, respond to the atrocities this country has committed that perhaps some of us have enough courage to face.  People like you, whom I call AMERICAN'Ts, make me sick. 

One has to face one's history in order to overcome it.  One has to accept one's past inorder to move forward.  The cowardice I see here from Americants like you is precisely what people through out the world find revolting about this country.  I  would love to say that people like you are in the minority, but unfortunately I cant.  Too many ignorants like yourself exist in this country.  The best one can do is try at all costs to avoid you and hope there aren't too many of you that I need to be in contact with. 

 


 

Must suck to be you huh?   Such a terrible shame that you were born and raised in this awful country and it really pains you doesn't it.   No other country is bad and only America is.  You say we need to look at our own past and overcome our own history and I see America doing that all the time.   We own up to our mistakes and our failings.    Just as most other countries do.    You keep slamming America and fail to realize that sure America has done some terrible things and most Americans realize this.   You seem to think you, I take it you are American, are above the rest of us Americans because you are somehow better?   Please explain?  

Also, of all the countries on this planet, name me one that is as diverse across the width and breadth of their nation as America is.  People say we do not have our own culture.   Well duh.   How can we?   We are made up of all the other nations and races.   Where else can so many nations live together and live as peacefully as we do here in America?   Name me one.    You can't because it doesn't exist but here.   America truly is a melting pot of all the world and you know what...that is what makes us great.   Our own ability to set aside certain things and allows us to come together as a nation of many nations and work together.    So again...tell me again how America is a bad place.    How America has committed such gruesome atrocities that would garner such hate from other nations.   You're so keen at pointing the finger at Americans - then explain what it is we did that makes us deserve this.  I am listening.

 

Mauritius,Indian Ocean

 

Unfortunately,morons like the one who started this thread is one of the causes of this hatred.Instead of using the word "westernized" he used the word "Americanized" which implies a version only for your country.I know it's stupid but things like that can end up ugly and we are seeing it.

There are also lots of stigmatas and scars from past and present which will take centuries to heal.US corporate greed plays a major part in that too and don`t forget the medias which are powerful tools for information/disinformation/propagandas.

There's a military base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean,the people who lived there were forced to live their houses & homeland and now this place is a restricted area.Both US and British Government are guilty but people will always see the Americans as the one who took thier land because they are the ones who are there :(

The way individuals see,perceived or experienced things will always be different depending on where they are standing in a typical situation.Due to my field of work I have met lots of people from different horizons including lots of US citizens.Some are good some are less good as there are in any other countries.

Us being the world hate magnet is the sum of various things but the one and unfortunate thing which amplifies that is that the world is divided into 3 parts,North America,Europe and the rest of the world...sad but true.

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Shastra

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7/20/09 2:02:33 AM#222


Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by Rabenwolf

Originally posted by Broomy

Originally posted by deadmilk

Broomy, if you hate the US so much why are you still here?  I'm sure there are plenty of other countries that would take you in.


 
Awwww...here it comes.  The ignorance has come full circle.  Who said I "hated" America? Again, cant defend or respond...so let's distract. 
First tactic: Point the fingers at other countries, compare ours to theirs and point out how much better we are COMPARED to others.. 
Second tactic:  Tell anyone that doesnt like it to leave! 
This has all been done before, cant you think of something a bit more original? 
How's this:  I pay taxes, I'll say what I want about this country.  Dont like it, stop reading.
Cheers!
 
 



 
Sure, you can pay taxes and have the right to be ignorant. You are also right, you are what you said, an ameri-cant. IF a nation is no better than its people, then you have shown that it definately is a shitty nation going by who you are and what you say. Thankfully you are the minority.
The irony burns doesnt it? There is too much hypocrisy going on in your statements.
 
Furthermore, the hundreds of thousands of people who come to the US every year from other countries must have a reason for wanting to live here. Surely they must be stupid since you know better than them. I mean who in their right mind would move to a country that has the second highest tax rate in the world...unless it was a great country. NIce try.
 
"Democracy is a government where you can say what you think even if you don't think."


Other than throwing out insults I can see that your just another copout with nothing to say.  Distract, insult, compare, (now its all the immigrants that come here blah blah,) but never ever ever, respond to the atrocities this country has committed that perhaps some of us have enough courage to face.  People like you, whom I call AMERICAN'Ts, make me sick. 
One has to face one's history in order to overcome it.  One has to accept one's past inorder to move forward.  The cowardice I see here from Americants like you is precisely what people through out the world find revolting about this country.  I  would love to say that people like you are in the minority, but unfortunately I cant.  Too many ignorants like yourself exist in this country.  The best one can do is try at all costs to avoid you and hope there aren't too many of you that I need to be in contact with. 
 

 

Also, of all the countries on this planet, name me one that is as diverse across the width and breadth of their nation as America is.  People say we do not have our own culture.  


India. Try to visit it sometime. The most diverse and largest democracy of the world.

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Retrad

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Posts: 283

7/20/09 2:15:47 AM#223
Originally posted by Getalife
Originally posted by dunesw64

I'm racist because I'm pointing out historical fact? Kid, grow up and stop being so angry at the world. Your blind hatred of America is making you look like a bigger fool that normally. I'll tell you what, Getalife, you prove me wrong, and you will prove you aren't the insecure, jealous person we all know you to be. Come on, show me how those inventions and discoveries weren't from America.

 

You fail at reading. Every invention is a chronological process and includes collective work of many individuals. The history of  computer invention starts back in 3000 BC. And moreover i never claimed that i hate Americans, i just hate arrogant fools like you. And you can be from any country you would be still an arrogant fool.

 

So by your logic, cavemen invented everything?

 

Problem solved. Move along folks. Cavemen, neanderthals, invented all you see before your eyes.n.

Death1942

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7/20/09 2:17:50 AM#224

6 hours later this thread is still going....what the hell mods.....

Originally posted by Cyborg99
"Many ppl will disagree with this but their just liberals so ignore their post."
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Retrad

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7/20/09 2:20:13 AM#225
Originally posted by Broomy
Originally posted by Teala

America is not the people, it's an ideal that was brought about by people, a great experiment.   Who were these people that had this wonderful ideal, an ideal that men and women could come together, from all the different nations and lands of the world, under one nation and be ruled by the people, for the people and live with freedom and liberty for all who stood by her.   Those people where from here and many of their ancestors were from other lands and countries and yet they chose to call themselves American's and the country they created was called America and it was an ideal -  a good ideal. 


 

Considering that this country was built on the backs of others (extermination of the American Indian, enslavement of Blacks) this has got to be the most ignorant post on this thread.  America is a good ideal?  For whom?  Please wake the F up  You must be from the midwest. 

 

Ehem....you can say this about every Western and Eastern power.

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