Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Dear Bioware,  No one gives a shit about the voice-over work in The Old Republic.  Please start releasing information people are actually interested in learning about your game. 

 

also, ReBoot kicked ass, especially season 4. :P

 

Did you even bother watching the video? :) There is a ton of never before seen gameplay footage in it.

 

I actually watched it several times for the in-game footage.  I am just getting pretty tired of the subject matter.  Every interview they do seems to be about the voice-over work these days.  I get it, there is a lot of dialog.... now how about we move on and discuss some other aspects of the game.  I can't imagine that the voice acting is many people's top concern or question about the game. 

Bioware is not going to release information that is not concrete.  They may have certain things designed right now, like crafting, but there not concrete that is the way they are gonna do it.

Better to stay mum on shit your not concrete about, than for players  to get information and then bitch and moan when they change it a year before the game is released.

Originally posted by unimatrix8

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Dear Bioware,  No one gives a shit about the voice-over work in The Old Republic.  Please start releasing information people are actually interested in learning about your game. 

 

also, ReBoot kicked ass, especially season 4. :P

 

I give a shit about the VO, the lore, the story and the over direction of the game, this game is targetted more towards players that are into immersion not the hardcore min/max crowd

and whats intresting for you? let me guess pvp? go play that crappy darkfail or whatever you call it instead then where all you can do is pvp with no quality because this is whats making me wanna play this game

Originally posted by Raizeen

Originally posted by unimatrix8

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Dear Bioware,  No one gives a shit about the voice-over work in The Old Republic.  Please start releasing information people are actually interested in learning about your game. 

 

also, ReBoot kicked ass, especially season 4. :P

 

I give a shit about the VO, the lore, the story and the over direction of the game, this game is targetted more towards players that are into immersion not the hardcore min/max crowd

 

and whats intresting for you? let me guess pvp? go play that crappy darkfail or whatever you call it instead then where all you can do is pvp with no quality because this is whats making me wanna play this game

Raizeen, I think you quoted the wrong post.  Because your comment being directed at unimatrix8 makes no sense.

This sounds truly fantastic and sure looks great according to the game footage from the interview.

However...

I'm a bit concerned about what's gonna happen when the game goes live and the developers find themselves up against the hardcore grinders, who will surely blast through all the content much quicker than anticipated. As everybody around here knows, content is constantly added in MMOs and it's pretty much a must in order to keep the players... well... playing and paying.

Are they going to go through all the trouble with that content as well? With all that extra work required, can they keep up the pace so that the game doesn't become stagnant?

I sure hope so, because that would be awesome to the extreme... but it still feels to me like they're being a bit too ambitious for their own good.

 Finally some gameplay footage.  Assuming they keep the UI and combat mechanics, looks like your typical hotbar menu and such. I can see they are really proud of their voice over stuff. I don't blame them. They are no doubt spending a TON of money implementing it. I would hype it up as well.

After reading all these articles on this game, I have to express some reservations as to the storage this game will take.  I think the 26GB that AoC takes will be small compared to this one.  So much for any free trials, you would die of old age trying to download it.

Maybe they will find a way to condense some of this, I hope so. 

As to the character models that does not concern me, gameplay will be the determining factor whether it is a good game or not.

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Dear Bioware,  No one gives a shit about the voice-over work in The Old Republic.  Please start releasing information people are actually interested in learning about your game. 

 

also, ReBoot kicked ass, especially season 4. :P

 

Did you even bother watching the video? :) There is a ton of never before seen gameplay footage in it.

 

I actually watched it several times for the in-game footage.  I am just getting pretty tired of the subject matter.  Every interview they do seems to be about the voice-over work these days.  I get it, there is a lot of dialog.... now how about we move on and discuss some other aspects of the game.  I can't imagine that the voice acting is many people's top concern or question about the game. 

....You're kidding me.

Why would you watch a video entitled The VOICES of ToR and then whine when they talk about the voice-overs?

That's like doing heroine 5 times a day then whining when you get addicted.

gtfo.

Originally posted by Odela

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Dear Bioware,  No one gives a shit about the voice-over work in The Old Republic.  Please start releasing information people are actually interested in learning about your game. 

 

also, ReBoot kicked ass, especially season 4. :P

 

Did you even bother watching the video? :) There is a ton of never before seen gameplay footage in it.

 

I actually watched it several times for the in-game footage.  I am just getting pretty tired of the subject matter.  Every interview they do seems to be about the voice-over work these days.  I get it, there is a lot of dialog.... now how about we move on and discuss some other aspects of the game.  I can't imagine that the voice acting is many people's top concern or question about the game. 

 

 

....You're kidding me.

 

Why would you watch a video entitled The VOICES of ToR and then whine when they talk about the voice-overs?

That's like doing heroine 5 times a day then whining when you get addicted.

 

gtfo.

I watched it to see the in-game footage.  I really don't care about the voice over work, and it has been the topic of like 5 interviews in  the last month.  I care far more about gameplay.... the voice acting is inconsequential to me.  I'd rather hear them explain how this is an actual MMO and not just KOTOR3, now with multiplayer mode!. 

Going on and on about recording the voice work for what appear to be nothing more than in-engine cut-scenes only reinforces the opinion I already have about the game.  that being that it will be very light on the features most of us expect in an MMO.  It does look like a fun game though, and I enjoyed the first to Knights of the Old Republic game.  So I'll probably enjoy the third as well.

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by Odela

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Salvatoris

Dear Bioware,  No one gives a shit about the voice-over work in The Old Republic.  Please start releasing information people are actually interested in learning about your game. 

 

also, ReBoot kicked ass, especially season 4. :P

 

Did you even bother watching the video? :) There is a ton of never before seen gameplay footage in it.

 

I actually watched it several times for the in-game footage.  I am just getting pretty tired of the subject matter.  Every interview they do seems to be about the voice-over work these days.  I get it, there is a lot of dialog.... now how about we move on and discuss some other aspects of the game.  I can't imagine that the voice acting is many people's top concern or question about the game. 

 

 

....You're kidding me.

 

Why would you watch a video entitled The VOICES of ToR and then whine when they talk about the voice-overs?

That's like doing heroine 5 times a day then whining when you get addicted.

 

gtfo.

 

I watched it to see the in-game footage.  I really don't care about the voice over work, and it has been the topic of like 5 interviews in  the last month.  I care far more about gameplay.... the voice acting is inconsequential to me.  I'd rather hear them explain how this is an actual MMO and not just KOTOR3, now with multiplayer mode!. 

Going on and on about recording the voice work for what appear to be nothing more than in-engine cut-scenes only reinforces the opinion I already have about the game.  that being that it will be very light on the features most of us expect in an MMO.  It does look like a fun game though, and I enjoyed the first to Knights of the Old Republic game.  So I'll probably enjoy the third as well.

Troll elsewhere, your arguments are so bad it's getting ridiculous.

Your argument is that because this game has voice-overs and is made by the company that made one Kotor game, that makes it Kotor 3.

You realize that Bioware is setting up a NEW gameplay demo to show the public?  Right now the only thing you should be crying about is the wait.

You're worse than the trolls that call anything that is an MMO a WoW clone.  -_-

Well here is what we know and you can bet your left or right on.  The VO are going to be a huge part in how your Toon comes out light/dark also it will lead you to other content.  Like for instance saying Go to hell I dont wanna kill ewoks you then get sent to kill Tuskens. or Vise versa.  The VO is going to be a huge part of what your toon does next and how it progresses.

Just like in KOTOR you say the wrong thing you get dark side points witch in turn will more then likly open a new pool of skills you can learn.  It is genuis to do so you lvl your toon as normal but with a twist on what skills you learn. In therory you could be on the grey area not light or dark with the choices you made.

Reason Bioware is so critcal right now on this is 1. Never been done before in a game and this will be the most story driven MMO you ever played. 2. Putting this first as the pillar of thier game allows them now to branch off from it , For E.X the more you quest and do the story the more you will open up content for yourself and here is some content... So what we know so far is this That lvling your toon will be done though combat and VO and the outcome of your toon will be important on what content that toon sees.

You can bet though that VO will be the backbone of this game and is the main reason Bioware is ramming it down our throats.

Voice overs and story aspects are actually parts that will raise the standards of MMOs. It is good that they talk about them. I am personally very interested. I am sure they will get to other parts as well, but from the footage it seems that the game is coming together pretty well and will be pretty much the action-adventure MMORPG I was hoping it would be.

Originally posted by Minion552

Well here is what we know and you can bet your left or right on.  The VO are going to be a huge part in how your Toon comes out light/dark also it will lead you to other content. 

I think you misunderstand voice overs. You could as easily have subtitles, but they are there to add to the immersion. Think about Mass Effect with subtitles instead of full voice acting? A lot less immersion, right? Subtitles have been done before and so have voice overs to limited extend. However, Bioware is bringing two of their major selling points from their single player games to MMOs  - consequences and full voice acting.

Some people will be very dissapointed with this. I know why, but I do not agree with their reasons.

I am sure you will need to listen to what is being said yes it will be more immersion however I do not think that is the only reason for VO. I think they want players to pay attension to the story and not skip the Dialouge to find out whats next.  I am pretty sure with the VO they want you to pay attension like in any other Bioware RPG.

Originally posted by Minion552

I am sure you will need to listen to what is being said yes it will be more immersion however I do not think that is the only reason for VO. I think they want players to pay attension to the story and not skip the Dialouge to find out whats next.  I am pretty sure with the VO they want you to pay attension like in any other Bioware RPG.

yeah it'll stretch the content out to it'd intended length, fewer shortcuts and speed leveling.
 

A nice dissection of the video found here, some of the stuff I noticed, other things I missed

darthhater.com/2009/07/18/dissected-videodoc3/

Originally posted by tillamook

 

 

A nice dissection of the video found here, some of the stuff I noticed, other things I missed

darthhater.com/2009/07/18/dissected-videodoc3/

Thanks for the link, very cool stuff on it

Why and How are they so good at making games?

Originally posted by Faelan

This sounds truly fantastic and sure looks great according to the game footage from the interview.

However...

I'm a bit concerned about what's gonna happen when the game goes live and the developers find themselves up against the hardcore grinders, who will surely blast through all the content much quicker than anticipated. As everybody around here knows, content is constantly added in MMOs and it's pretty much a must in order to keep the players... well... playing and paying.

Are they going to go through all the trouble with that content as well? With all that extra work required, can they keep up the pace so that the game doesn't become stagnant?

I sure hope so, because that would be awesome to the extreme... but it still feels to me like they're being a bit too ambitious for their own good.

Why should everyone else suffer because hardcores blaze through content?  This game isn't targeted at hardcores, so who gives a crap if they stay or not.  The pace should be set for the target audience, not the hardcores who insist on playing a casual game.

Looks fantastic. Finally, a mmo that is aiming for the same quality storyline as single player games. Moral choices look great and it will get people attached to the main plot and their character, it also adds a lot of replayability, which is awesome for me, because I hate going through the same tedious bullshit grid/kill/delivery quests.

 I've been strongly looking forward to this game. The character models and the art style aren't working for me though.. I thougt the Hero game engine was much better then this. It would be shame for such a great game to be turned down because of graphics. I will buy the game regardless but character models need a change..