Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Roin

Originally posted by GeniusSage

I love how the Op's X-Fire shows 1100 logged hours in Final Fantasy XI, yet is complaining about Darkfalls grind of which he has 1 hour logged.

Here's a little tip if you hadn't caught on. GIVE THE GAME A CHANCE. You won't have fun in Darkfall unless you get involved with PvP and the clan warfare scene.

 

I like how DF fans claim most people turn off xfire, for performance reasons.  When someone brings up the drop in time played using it.  Even that some don't run xfire 24/7. Yet when they try to make a point about how long someone has played.  Because someone said something "bad" about the game. They feel it safe to assume that said person and/or people run xfire 24/7.

Xfire is useless in any case. The only thing it can be used for is to see when a game has sold more copies and how much the population has changed in a given game, not across games. To prove my point good look at my xfire profile, over the past 2-3 days I have added 56hrs to darkfall. How? Leaving my comp on 24/7. Thus, if I were to get 10 people to do the same thing the data on xfire would be manpiulated. Alright?

Except that no one except a DF Fanbot would even look at the hours that way "leave the pc on to manipulate XFire" and we have all seen what happened here on MMORPG.com with Tasos and other fanbots trying to manipulate the rate system so yeah thats something I would expect the DFO community to do.

Originally posted by rav3n2

 

Except that no one except a DF Fanbot would even look at the hours that way "leave the pc on to manipulate XFire" and we have all seen what happened here on MMORPG.com with Tasos and other fanbots trying to manipulate the rate system so yeah thats something I would expect the DFO community to do.

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

Because of a huge revolt against the evil xfire empire! doubtful. Even some of the overly zealous fans say its still a bit empty in there.

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

hahahahahahah

/gasps for breathe

hahahahahahah

entertainment in this thread 10/10

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

hahahahahahah

/gasps for breathe

hahahahahahah

Hey, I'm just trying to point out that there could be another reason for the change in numbers. There are two communities at work here - the game and xFire. A drop in numbers (for ANY game) could due to either factor.

But please, by all means, keep trolling... 

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

hahahahahahah

/gasps for breathe

hahahahahahah

Hey, I'm just trying to point out that there could be another reason for the change in numbers. There are two communities at work here - the game and xFire. A drop in numbers (for ANY game) could due to either factor.

But please, by all means, keep trolling... 

You make me sad

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

First, let me say I never liked xFire and I think it's a poor way to judge a game's subscription numbers. For the plain, simple fact that not everyone uses it.

Second... what?

How does that make any sense? You're saying some DF players began using xFire at first, and then they, for whatever reason, stopped? That's possible in a few cases, but when you start seeing dropping numbers en masse, it's not a very logical argument. If anything, Darkfall fans would want high xFire numbers, so they can promote the game through it saying, "Look! We have ___ number of subs while ___ game has lost ___ percent of theirs! Darkfall is the best (niche) game evar!"

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

First, let me say I never liked xFire and I think it's a poor way to judge a game's subscription numbers. For the plain, simple fact that not everyone uses it.

Second... what?

How does that make any sense? You're saying some DF players began using xFire at first, and then they, for whatever reason, stopped? That's possible in a few cases, but when you start seeing dropping numbers en masse, it's not a very logical argument. If anything, Darkfall fans would want high xFire numbers, so they can promote the game through it saying, "Look! We have ___ number of subs while ___ game has lost ___ percent of theirs! Darkfall is the best (niche) game evar!"

Makes alot of sense if you actually are an Xfire user (like me). For some reason Xfire is causing issues with some people when playing DF. The Xfire forums have a few posts about lag spikes and whatnot. How many are effected who knows. I dont have any problems running it but some do. Though I do agree that Xfire isnt the best way to track sub numbers.

P.S. For some reason I cant get my Xfire Sig to work on this site. I C&P the URL like it says to but it dosent show up when I post. Any other Xfire users having same problem?

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

First, let me say I never liked xFire and I think it's a poor way to judge a game's subscription numbers. For the plain, simple fact that not everyone uses it.

Second... what?

How does that make any sense? You're saying some DF players began using xFire at first, and then they, for whatever reason, stopped? That's possible in a few cases, but when you start seeing dropping numbers en masse, it's not a very logical argument. If anything, Darkfall fans would want high xFire numbers, so they can promote the game through it saying, "Look! We have ___ number of subs while ___ game has lost ___ percent of theirs! Darkfall is the best (niche) game evar!"

xFire and DFO don't play nice together. Many people I know who play have had to uninstall it.

Make sense now?

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

Maybe. But did it ever occur to you that maybe DFO is losing players, period? It's not unlikely, considering the situation of the EU servers. Let's give it a month or two, then we'll know if it's DFO or Xfire.

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

First, let me say I never liked xFire and I think it's a poor way to judge a game's subscription numbers. For the plain, simple fact that not everyone uses it.

Second... what?

How does that make any sense? You're saying some DF players began using xFire at first, and then they, for whatever reason, stopped? That's possible in a few cases, but when you start seeing dropping numbers en masse, it's not a very logical argument. If anything, Darkfall fans would want high xFire numbers, so they can promote the game through it saying, "Look! We have ___ number of subs while ___ game has lost ___ percent of theirs! Darkfall is the best (niche) game evar!"

 

xFire and DFO don't play nice together. Many people I know who play have had to uninstall it.

Make sense now?

Makes no sense.

Why is the situation worsening?  If people have to uninstall xfire, they would have to do that long ago.  Not now, not progressively, unless you say that over time the problem gets worse, and people previously able to use xfire were one by one forced to uninstall it.

There are a thousand ways to explain why there are less and less reported hours on DF from xfire, I can help you create more excuses:

(1) xfire reporting is wrong

(2) xfire has an argument with Tasos and fiddle with the numbers

(3) xfire is buggy, but only buggy with DF

(4) some codes in DF suppressed xfire, for the sake of protecting the identity of DF players.

and so on.  Yes you can create 1000000 possibly reasons, but please, try to select and present the one that can somehow fool a few of us.

xfire losing DF players?  LoL, like there were a lot of DF players to start with so you can try to lose them slowly.  With a handful active, you cannot afford to lose one without significant lost in term of statistics.  1 player lost out of 5 is a 20% lost, and that is only 1 player.  Now, does this make sense?

Explaining to those who still wonder why:  The base is small, any drop will be very noticeable in terms of proportion.  Take WoW,  even if a whole guild unsubs, you can hardly see any statistical change, 0.001%.

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

First, let me say I never liked xFire and I think it's a poor way to judge a game's subscription numbers. For the plain, simple fact that not everyone uses it.

Second... what?

How does that make any sense? You're saying some DF players began using xFire at first, and then they, for whatever reason, stopped? That's possible in a few cases, but when you start seeing dropping numbers en masse, it's not a very logical argument. If anything, Darkfall fans would want high xFire numbers, so they can promote the game through it saying, "Look! We have ___ number of subs while ___ game has lost ___ percent of theirs! Darkfall is the best (niche) game evar!"

 

xFire and DFO don't play nice together. Many people I know who play have had to uninstall it.

Make sense now?

 

Makes no sense.

Why is the situation worsening?  If people have to uninstall xfire, they would have to do that long ago.  Not now, not progressively, unless you say that over time the problem gets worse, and people previously able to use xfire were one by one forced to uninstall it.

There are a thousand ways to explain why there are less and less reported hours on DF from xfire, I can help you create more excuses:

(1) xfire reporting is wrong

(2) xfire has an argument with Tasos and fiddle with the numbers

(3) xfire is buggy, but only buggy with DF

(4) some codes in DF suppressed xfire, for the sake of protecting the identity of DF players.

and so on.  Yes you can create 1000000 possibly reasons, but please, try to select and present the one that can somehow fool a few of us.

xfire losing DF players?  LoL, like there were a lot of DF players to start with so you can try to lose them slowly.  With a handful active, you cannot afford to lose one without significant lost in term of statistics.  1 player lost out of 5 is a 20% lost, and that is only 1 player.  Now, does this make sense?

Explaining to those who still wonder why:  The base is small, any drop will be very noticeable in terms of proportion.  Take WoW,  even if a whole guild unsubs, you can hardly see any statistical change, 0.001%.

I was going to respond to this UNTIL I started reading your previous posts. I got through the last 10 before I realized that your MO is to pick arguments with people for the sake of arguing with them. Not really interested in playing that game with you. I'm sure you can find someone else to take the bait. I'm not wasting my time.

You're 47 years old dude, grow up and learn how to communicate like an adult.

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by cfurlin

Originally posted by Vaylla

Whats even more funny is that the Xfire numbers keep going down.

So if they are trying to manipulate the numbers they are loosing people faster then they can create false Xfire accounts to pad the game statistics.

 

Did it ever occur to you that maybe DF isn't losing players but xFire is losing DF players?

First, let me say I never liked xFire and I think it's a poor way to judge a game's subscription numbers. For the plain, simple fact that not everyone uses it.

Second... what?

How does that make any sense? You're saying some DF players began using xFire at first, and then they, for whatever reason, stopped? That's possible in a few cases, but when you start seeing dropping numbers en masse, it's not a very logical argument. If anything, Darkfall fans would want high xFire numbers, so they can promote the game through it saying, "Look! We have ___ number of subs while ___ game has lost ___ percent of theirs! Darkfall is the best (niche) game evar!"

 

xFire and DFO don't play nice together. Many people I know who play have had to uninstall it.

Make sense now?

 

Makes no sense.

Why is the situation worsening?  If people have to uninstall xfire, they would have to do that long ago.  Not now, not progressively, unless you say that over time the problem gets worse, and people previously able to use xfire were one by one forced to uninstall it.

There are a thousand ways to explain why there are less and less reported hours on DF from xfire, I can help you create more excuses:

(1) xfire reporting is wrong

(2) xfire has an argument with Tasos and fiddle with the numbers

(3) xfire is buggy, but only buggy with DF

(4) some codes in DF suppressed xfire, for the sake of protecting the identity of DF players.

and so on.  Yes you can create 1000000 possibly reasons, but please, try to select and present the one that can somehow fool a few of us.

xfire losing DF players?  LoL, like there were a lot of DF players to start with so you can try to lose them slowly.  With a handful active, you cannot afford to lose one without significant lost in term of statistics.  1 player lost out of 5 is a 20% lost, and that is only 1 player.  Now, does this make sense?

Explaining to those who still wonder why:  The base is small, any drop will be very noticeable in terms of proportion.  Take WoW,  even if a whole guild unsubs, you can hardly see any statistical change, 0.001%.

I was going to respond to this UNTIL I started reading your previous posts. I got through the last 10 before I realized that your MO is to pick arguments with people for the sake of arguing with them. Not really interested in playing that game with you. I'm sure you can find someone else to take the bait. I'm not wasting my time.

You're 47 years old dude, grow up and learn how to communicate like an adult.

Ok standard tactics of a losing DFer.  Personal attacks.

You can find nothing wrong in what I write, so you go personal.  No problem.  Whatever my age (lol looking at the profile, and that is your 'fact"), I am mature enough to see that you are trying to find an exit to bail out.  Sure go go, RIP.

Originally posted by oskironmaide

The game feels so... weak, i been playing for 3 days and i have to admit i feel i wasted 50$.

This game is sad. People that justify this game must be people that never played any other mmo or real video game were you are suppoused to have fun from the get go. Not a month later

Sorry darkfall you fail.. and i fail for wasting my money.

Graphics 2/10 = Considering next gen mmos and most mmos out there this game looks like everquest -1

Sound 0/10= wtf is with that scream when you die

Animations 1/10= Worst animations i ever seen on a video game... Full of glitches and ... well you get the idea

Gameplay 1/10= I understand is a free world and you do whatever you want.. .. so is eve and you get more direction on that game. On this game you get trown into the world and thats it.. you figure it out. And i did.. and well.. not much to do besides grind grind..and kill other players with no reason other that getting their items..

 

All i have to say is DO NOT BUY THIS. dont make my mistake

I played the game with an honest open mentality, expecting nothing. i played ever mmo out there and this one is one of the worst i ever played.

So, overall then, you liked it?

Originally posted by oskironmaide

The game feels so... weak, i been playing for 3 days and i have to admit i feel i wasted 50$.

This game is sad. People that justify this game must be people that never played any other mmo or real video game were you are suppoused to have fun from the get go. Not a month later

Sorry darkfall you fail.. and i fail for wasting my money.

Graphics 2/10 = Considering next gen mmos and most mmos out there this game looks like everquest -1

Sound 0/10= wtf is with that scream when you die

Animations 1/10= Worst animations i ever seen on a video game... Full of glitches and ... well you get the idea

Gameplay 1/10= I understand is a free world and you do whatever you want.. .. so is eve and you get more direction on that game. On this game you get trown into the world and thats it.. you figure it out. And i did.. and well.. not much to do besides grind grind..and kill other players with no reason other that getting their items..

 

All i have to say is DO NOT BUY THIS. dont make my mistake

I played the game with an honest open mentality, expecting nothing. i played ever mmo out there and this one is one of the worst i ever played.

You're surprised?

Originally posted by Sabiancym

[..]The game would literally have to steal $20 every time you log in to get a 0 rating.

 

Give it time ....  I am sure AV can work something out ;)

Originally posted by tombear81

Originally posted by Sabiancym

[..]The game would literally have to steal $20 every time you log in to get a 0 rating.

 

 

Give it time ....  I am sure AV can work something out ;)

 

;o}

Originally posted by ChinaCat
 

 There isn't a shred of information in your starting post that shows you played the game.    That post could go in any forum of any game.       In the .0000000000000000001% chance you really have this game, post your character name and race. 

-CC

You missed a zero !

Originally posted by Roin

Originally posted by GeniusSage

I love how the Op's X-Fire shows 1100 logged hours in Final Fantasy XI, yet is complaining about Darkfalls grind of which he has 1 hour logged.

Here's a little tip if you hadn't caught on. GIVE THE GAME A CHANCE. You won't have fun in Darkfall unless you get involved with PvP and the clan warfare scene.

 

I like how DF fans claim most people turn off xfire, for performance reasons.  When someone brings up the drop in time played using it.  Even that some don't run xfire 24/7. Yet when they try to make a point about how long someone has played.  Because someone said something "bad" about the game. They feel it safe to assume that said person and/or people run xfire 24/7.

There is nowhere in my post that I accused the OP of turning Xfire off. My point was that with 1hour logged with Darkfall, he clearly hasn't given the game a chance. 

I like it how people that hate DF claim anybody posting with an ounce of praise for Darkfall are trying to cover up some grand conspiracy.

Originally posted by oskironmaide

 

I cant believe this game is 50$

 

Blame your government and inflation.  Six years ago it would have been worth $25.

Originally posted by panchoe

Originally posted by oskironmaide

 

I cant believe this game is 50$

 

 

Blame your government and inflation.  Six years ago it would have been worth $25.

six years ago it was feature complete and ready for launch