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  User Deleted
 
7/14/09 11:42:08 AM#26
Originally posted by harmonica
Originally posted by gnomexxx

OMG!  That's the rain?

It looks like some kind of effect like when you open a magic box and light is emitted from it.  I never would have thought that was rain.  Even in the context that the picture shows.

 

I don't know what's up with the dude who took that picture, but rain doesn't look like that at all for me (or in any of the other screenshots of it). It actually looks more like water and goes in front of, on, and behind the character. That picture makes it look pretty shitty.

The problem with the rain isn't how it looks, it's that it doesn't seem to rain for everyone even if they're standing next to one another - which is pretty retarded. It's not entirely client-side, though because it will rain for a bunch of people at the same time... so some sort of lag issue must happen where another player doesn't see the rain.

Either way, it's bugged. But it's not as ugly as that picture makes it look.


 

It looks like that as in picture are you playing another game maybe?

  Axllow18

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7/14/09 11:54:05 AM#27
Originally posted by chokepoint

Just a correction, weather is always client-side in every game. All the server does is send the client a message which says "show snow" and another message which says "stop snowing". It's always the client that shows the rain,snow,whatever. If people can stand next to each other and only one sees the rain (noone in my clan has said this yet) then it is probably just a bug or one person's graphics card settings. I don't think the weather I have seen is as bad as the screenshot here either, the rain I have seen is not as "heavy" as that. Maybe that was a storm?

 

Actually weather was server-side in Planetside. Its main drawback though was players could choose whether to or not to render it. It depends on the game as to which way it is handled and AV just chose to go with the easier choice it seems.

Server side weather has obvious drawbacks (its more work for the server) but it also pays off in some cases. Theres nothing wrong with AV using client side weather, but it means that there is alot more comunication needed between the server and client to make certain the effect works the way intended.

I hope AV will get the weather fixxed and make it capable of actually having a strategic effect on pvp.

  User Deleted
7/14/09 11:55:07 AM#28

This isn’t surprising. Their complete fail on the weather system is a continued testament, since their beta, to less than mediocre effort, at best.

 

Aventurines’ complete spin about this so-called expansion is nothing more than hot-fixes to elements that have been broke or poorly implemented in this game. And those that continue to subscribe to this experiment are just the marks that the scammers at Aventurine were hoping to get their claws into for continued funding of an ever-failing endeavor.

  Murdus

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7/14/09 11:57:31 AM#29

Such a terrible company, AV.

As someone said before, this proves that they don't test their shit, and if they do, they don't care enough to fix it before throwing it at the community

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  kasta

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7/14/09 12:07:04 PM#30

 You are absolutely correct.  Darkfall is not the game for me and I will keep playing my cool games and I'll let you keep contributing to the "Let's keep Tasos in beer" charity known as Aventurine.

  SEANMCAD

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7/14/09 12:14:20 PM#31
Originally posted by kasta

 You are absolutely correct.  Darkfall is not the game for me and I will keep playing my cool games and I'll let you keep contributing to the "Let's keep Tasos in beer" charity known as Aventurine.


 

although it does happen sometimes with great effort on my part as well as some other but in general its very rare for people to use the name of an actual game when making comparisions.

could you please do the favor of listing a few of these "cool games"?

 

Thanks
 

 

(p.s. No this is not "bait" nor is it trying to start a fitght I just want a point of reference)

does your game have rainbow sprinkles and magic ponies!?

  heartless

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7/14/09 11:35:52 PM#32
Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by kasta

 You are absolutely correct.  Darkfall is not the game for me and I will keep playing my cool games and I'll let you keep contributing to the "Let's keep Tasos in beer" charity known as Aventurine.


 

although it does happen sometimes with great effort on my part as well as some other but in general its very rare for people to use the name of an actual game when making comparisions.

could you please do the favor of listing a few of these "cool games"?

 

Thanks
 

 

(p.s. No this is not "bait" nor is it trying to start a fitght I just want a point of reference)

 

How about... oh I don't know... like every single video game ever made with the exception of E.T. for the Atari 2600?


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  Dr_Isotope

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7/14/09 11:38:49 PM#33

People still play Darkfall?

  User Deleted
7/14/09 11:51:52 PM#34
Originally posted by Evasia
Originally posted by Roin

Can't the weather be turned off?  If it can, then it really doesn't matter I guess.  Most people that love PvP will turn off anything and everything to squeeze 1 or 2 fps more out of their system. (At least during big fights)


 

You can't turn it off no and its no lag issue but rain is just awfull plus fact that one standing next to you have sunshining or the rain suddenly stop its rediculous:(

Its not a gamebreaker for me and some weather elements are nice the nighttime looks very nice but this weather is just a after thought fastly implemented for US launch:(


 

Actually, they had weather for the beginning of beta ( I didn't see it towards the last month of the beta ) and they decided not to release with it.

  wyrdaskolir

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7/15/09 12:56:52 AM#35

i think they fixed the client sided issue not 100% sure

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  Comnitus

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7/15/09 1:05:23 AM#36

Lol.

Also, I knew it was an Evasia thread just from the title. You're the only person I know of on MMORPG.com who does this:(.

 

  User Deleted
7/15/09 3:33:31 AM#37


Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

i think they fixed the client sided issue not 100% sure


 
You mean client side processing?  Can they fix it?  Can it be fixed at all, short of rewriting everything?

  chokepoint

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7/15/09 8:50:55 AM#38

It was fixed in a patch yesterday.

  jakojako

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7/15/09 9:12:53 AM#39

Yeah the weather system was fixed but it's still kind of bugged, (Most people see the weather, but a small few don't). They also fixed the rain so instead of it looking like you're being pelted with a machine gun, it looks like real rain.

It's definately a lot better than it was earlier.

  User Deleted
7/15/09 9:18:41 AM#40
Originally posted by jakojako

Yeah the weather system was fixed but it's still kind of bugged, (Most people see the weather, but a small few don't). They also fixed the rain so instead of it looking like you're being pelted with a machine gun, it looks like real rain.

It's definately a lot better than it was earlier.

 

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  miagisan

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7/15/09 8:41:40 PM#41
Originally posted by miagisan
Originally posted by harmonica
Originally posted by gnomexxx

OMG!  That's the rain?

It looks like some kind of effect like when you open a magic box and light is emitted from it.  I never would have thought that was rain.  Even in the context that the picture shows.

 

I don't know what's up with the dude who took that picture, but rain doesn't look like that at all for me (or in any of the other screenshots of it). It actually looks more like water and goes in front of, on, and behind the character. That picture makes it look pretty shitty.

The problem with the rain isn't how it looks, it's that it doesn't seem to rain for everyone even if they're standing next to one another - which is pretty retarded. It's not entirely client-side, though because it will rain for a bunch of people at the same time... so some sort of lag issue must happen where another player doesn't see the rain.

Either way, it's bugged. But it's not as ugly as that picture makes it look.

 

can you show us a better pic of it then please? i am curious how it looks for you

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  xpiher

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7/15/09 8:53:44 PM#42

The last patch fixed most of the problems with the system. Supposedly people are still out of sync with the server, but most people get the same weather affects in the same area.


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  mannyman

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7/15/09 8:57:21 PM#43
Originally posted by xpiher

Supposedly people are still out of sync with the server

 

Yup, it's our fault.

  xpiher

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7/15/09 9:08:58 PM#44
Originally posted by mannyman
Originally posted by xpiher

Supposedly people are still out of sync with the server

 

Yup, it's our fault.

 

Did I say it was. Absolutely not. Stop trolling and read what I said in context of the post. Its not the player's fault that the server only sends the command for rain once and the client doesn't recieve it. Next time you troll do better. K thanks bye.


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  mannyman

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7/15/09 9:41:05 PM#45
Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by mannyman
Originally posted by xpiher

Supposedly people are still out of sync with the server

 

Yup, it's our fault.

 

the server only sends the command for rain once and the client doesn't recieve it

 

Message recieved, next time I get killed because of things out of my control, I will subdue my need to 'troll' a thread about the weather in Darkfall doing exactly what you just said it does.

  Zerocyde

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7/15/09 9:45:59 PM#46


Originally posted by Evasia
Its just awefull and client side, so one sees rainand other next to him see sunshine WTF?
Clauds suddenly 2D and when night comes in the starry night sky is infront of passing clouds lol who program this must a super nub:(
And rain man thats so terible even a lowest budget game have better rain then this crap:(

Wow, seems like the DFO weather system was designed by someone who probably spells a lot like you do, lol.

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  User Deleted
7/15/09 10:19:18 PM#47
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by jakojako

I don't get why this is such a big deal. Why would you care if you're fighting in a giant battle while it's "raining" but your friend doesn't see rain?

It's too trivial compared to the other flaws of this game.

 

Because this:

makes it so that you can't see crap while the other guy can.

Holy shit, what kind of POS system do you have that makes rain look like that?  Rain on my system looks so much nicer.
 

  StrixMaxima

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7/15/09 11:15:13 PM#48

What's stopping those who complain about the pic showed here to show the marvelous droplets of angelic dew appearing on their screen, then?

People will comment on what's posted. And the pic posted here shows a very amateurish rainfall. If it's so much better on your magic system, post it. It's not that hard.

  heartless

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7/15/09 11:19:34 PM#49
Originally posted by cfurlin
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by jakojako

I don't get why this is such a big deal. Why would you care if you're fighting in a giant battle while it's "raining" but your friend doesn't see rain?

It's too trivial compared to the other flaws of this game.

 

Because this:

makes it so that you can't see crap while the other guy can.

Holy shit, what kind of POS system do you have that makes rain look like that?  Rain on my system looks so much nicer.
 

 

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Either way, that's not my screenshot.


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  xpiher

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7/15/09 11:22:06 PM#50
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by cfurlin
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by jakojako

I don't get why this is such a big deal. Why would you care if you're fighting in a giant battle while it's "raining" but your friend doesn't see rain?

It's too trivial compared to the other flaws of this game.

 

Because this:

makes it so that you can't see crap while the other guy can.

Holy shit, what kind of POS system do you have that makes rain look like that?  Rain on my system looks so much nicer.
 

 

i7 920 2.66GHz
4GB DDR3 RAM
GeForce 9800 GT
1TB HD

Either way, that's not my screenshot.

 

The patch fixed that look of rain. It rains lighter and more realisitc now.


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