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The newest Kobayashi Maru entry is now available on the official Star Trek Online website.
This latest scenario is of Klingon origin and challenges you to do your duty, or sate your honor:
The full entry can be found here. What would you do? Let us know in the comments. Michael "MikeB" Bitton |
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Longswd
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I find the whole scenario as laid out to be very disturbing. It demonstrates to me that the designers do not really understand the lore of the Star Trek universe, because they are positing a moral dilemma that should not even exist. Firstly, no Federation captain would/should be firing unprovoked on a Klingon warship, in Klingon territory, especially one that should be able to blow them out of the "water". To posit this as a possible scenario is not realistic based upon lore. Secondly, the "moral dilemma" faced the by the Klingon commander is no dilemma at all. To the Klingon, doing your duty is the path of honor, to chase the Federation ship would be a dereliction of duty and thus dishonorable. Again, that the devs would put this forth demonstrates an abysmal lack of understanding of the IP they have been given to work on.
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To a true Klingon honour and duty are the same thing..... and anyway who came up with this....Klingons do not train in simulations.....they train in battle. Don't know if you can run it? |
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I have to agree with you both, this just doesn't fit at all. It is disappointing and shows that they may not be researching all the material they stated they were. Seems like they have a Federation mindset, and that just wont cut it for Klingon related missions and objectives. After seeing Champions I was a bit worried how STO was going to turn out, now I'm more so.
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Originally posted by jinxit
Not to disagree, but I seem to recall Worf frequently engaging in training simulations on the Enterprise's holodeck... Cheers, |
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Originally posted by Stradden
Not to disagree, but I seem to recall Worf frequently engaging in training simulations on the Enterprise's holodeck... Well you name one Klingon, obvious that due of him being federation I don't see why he shouldn't be using the sims, would he be serving the klingon empire it will be different then using sims ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Originally posted by Stradden
Not to disagree, but I seem to recall Worf frequently engaging in training simulations on the Enterprise's holodeck...
I knew someone would bring that up heh. He didn't have much choice though did he. Earth and the federation where not known for there aggression, Worf did not have a Klingon upbringing he was brought up by his grand parents on earth and they did there best to teach him Klingon culture, this included holodeck simulations. So from an early age Worf seen the holodecks as a tool to learn his peoples history and to train for battle, if he was brought up on Kronos holodecks wouldn't even have been considered as a training tool ( Klingons like to "kling" to the old ways :P ). Not saying Worf was no more a Klingon than a member of the Klingon empire, he was just brought up with human values, human rescourses and human tools. Don't know if you can run it? |
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Originally posted by Longswd Not defending the scenario just pointing out a couple of things that your response leads me to believe you may not know. 1) The time frame in which STO is set finds the Kitomer Accords gone and the Federation and Klingon Empire at war. I't very feasible that the Federation ship would fire upon the Klingon vessel in an attempt to draw it away (hoping the typical Klingon lust for battle would override duty). 2) The devs neither wrote this out nor proof read it before it is put on the site/forums. The community manager does this. As for the actual KM itself, it is a forum goer submission. I'm assuming the CM just randomly picks one and puts it up. Either that, or all the others they read were worse. OR, it's a setup for more Klingon information/ships being release in the very near future. All that said, yes, I agree, it wasn't worthy of a KM scenario. The choice is extremely easy. Return and destroy the Romulan vessel. That ship compromised the station, which was your duty to protect. In DS9 episode "Way of the Warrior" General Martok executes a bird of prey captain for being made to stand down (by Cpt. Sisko on the Defiant) from boarding and searching a freighter leaving DS9. That Klingon captain was unwillingly kept from following his orders. Unless there is a greater threat to the empire, their duty is to their current orders. In this case, defend the station. Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.
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Originally posted by Khalathwyr Not defending the scenario just pointing out a couple of things that your response leads me to believe you may not know. 1) The time frame in which STO is set finds the Kitomer Accords gone and the Federation and Klingon Empire at war. I't very feasible that the Federation ship would fire upon the Klingon vessel in an attempt to draw it away (hoping the typical Klingon lust for battle would override duty). 2) The devs neither wrote this out nor proof read it before it is put on the site/forums. The community manager does this. As for the actual KM itself, it is a forum goer submission. I'm assuming the CM just randomly picks one and puts it up. Either that, or all the others they read were worse. OR, it's a setup for more Klingon information/ships being release in the very near future. All that said, yes, I agree, it wasn't worthy of a KM scenario. The choice is extremely easy. Return and destroy the Romulan vessel. That ship compromised the station, which was your duty to protect. In DS9 episode "Way of the Warrior" General Martok executes a bird of prey captain for being made to stand down (by Cpt. Sisko on the Defiant) from boarding and searching a freighter leaving DS9. That Klingon captain was unwillingly kept from following his orders. Unless there is a greater threat to the empire, their duty is to their current orders. In this case, defend the station. Actually just to add.....the scenario may not be as cut and dry as first impressions show. We have two ships...one a federation vessel....this is the first ship to attack its also a pretty sure bet it was a decoy so the romulan ship could get the data it needed. The second ship, a Romulan Bird of prey .....far more superior than the federation ship but even though it is the bigger gun it runs...why? The romulan ship is actually leading you away from the real target...yes the romulan ship does have the information but what's stopping it from sending that information to the smaller more manuverable federation ship? Don't know if you can run it? |
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Originally posted by jinxit Actually just to add.....the scenario may not be as cut and dry as first impressions show. We have two ships...one a federation vessel....this is the first ship to attack its also a pretty sure bet it was a decoy so the romulan ship could get the data it needed. The second ship, a Romulan Bird of prey .....far more superior than the federation ship but even though it is the bigger gun it runs...why? The romulan ship is actually leading you away from the real target...yes the romulan ship does have the information but what's stopping it from sending that information to the smaller more manuverable federation ship? The author of the scenario, I'd say, based on how they word the last few lines of the scenario. That and we don't know the range (one could guess that it is pretty far) of the jamming capabilities of the Klingon station. By suggesting that the Romulan ship will escape with the readouts, it would seem to me the author still has them inside that range (or else they would have just transmitted the data to the Federation ship with the thought that at least one of them would escape. Face value? It seems to me the author was trying to play on Klingon aggressiveness with the little slap in the face the Federation ship did and playing it against duty to the mission and station. Objective thought aside, it would seem to me this author knows very little about Klingons and chose to focus on the agressive "pew-pew" aspects and special effects in the series as opposed to the brilliantly written character studies shown of them in the "boring" dialogue parts of the scenes. Yes, a Klingon will jump at the chance to "whoop your butt" for the slightest infraction, but if they didn't have common sense and a sense of duty and priority, they never would have grown their empire. They aren't the Jem'hadar. Asheron's Call. The one open world, classless progression, live team content oriented game that ALL game sites and developers show little respect for as a template to pattern future MMOs after.
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