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  Averno

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Joined: 4/04/05
Posts: 27

 
7/13/09 9:40:15 AM#1

Its a Korean MMO

Its published by NCSoft

It doesnt look visually attractive

It doesnt appear to bring anything new

Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5)

So what am I missing? Is it just that since around 2004 all of the recent MMO's have been crap and thus anything that doesnt look 3/10 suddenly jumps into everyones MMO GOTY list?

I dont get it, I think everyones being blinded by hope and marketing hype and neglecting to see this game for what it really is.. A ho-hum, run of the mill lineage2 clone.

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  pinkapples69

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Joined: 5/20/08
Posts: 53

7/13/09 9:44:47 AM#2

And you clearly havent played the game. You just look ignornat now because your judging a book by its cover. The games good just let it go. Don't know why just is its fun to play they changed the formula just enough to make it good.

  Leucrotta

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Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 684

7/13/09 9:45:35 AM#3
Originally posted by Averno

Its a Korean MMO

Its published by NCSoft

It doesnt look visually attractive

It doesnt appear to bring anything new

Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5)

 

What does anything of that have to do with being a good game or not?

  GoldenDog

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Joined: 2/24/06
Posts: 580

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7/13/09 9:49:23 AM#4

You're right,

If those are the only points you see then you wouldn't understand the popularity.  Here's a few of the others:

 

1. It is visually attractive to a lot of other people.

2. While it doesn't bring a lot of new things, it does build and perfect on the existing.  If it's not broke, don't fix it.

3. 'It's not new' itself is a good thing because it has been through real time class balance testing.

 

Aion is the combination of a lot of tried and true MMO systems.  Just about anyone who has played an MMO can find something they've liked about another game installed here (nostalgic in sense).  It's not all hope and marketing when you're given a chance to play it before you buy it. 

LineageII | LoTRO | RFO | 9Dragons | Aion | Perfect World | Ether Saga | Dungeon Runners | GuildWars | Hellgate London | tCoS | Warhammer | AoC | Tabula Rasa

  Averno

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Joined: 4/04/05
Posts: 27

 
7/13/09 9:51:29 AM#5

Well.. Korean games are all crap.

They are like an Indian car company vs. a german car company.

NCSoft have never published a good MMO and have no intention to ever consider the practice

Why does it matter if the graphics are poor? Thats not a good question

Same goes for adding anything new

and for the last point, its dated. This isnt a fresh vibrant world, its 2nd hand gaming at full retail price. You wouldnt pay full price for a used car I suspect?

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  Averno

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Joined: 4/04/05
Posts: 27

 
7/13/09 9:52:59 AM#6
Originally posted by GoldenDog

2. While it doesn't bring a lot of new things, it does build and perfect on the existing.  If it's not broke, don't fix it.

3. 'It's not new' itself is a good thing because it has been through real time class balance testing.


For those 2 points people may as well dump considering this and stick with something like WoW.

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  Nicoo

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Joined: 8/13/06
Posts: 242

7/13/09 9:54:10 AM#7

Its obvious you havnt tried it. Try it first. You'll be surprised.

  Leucrotta

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Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 684

7/13/09 9:56:59 AM#8
Originally posted by Averno

Well.. Korean games are all crap.

Asian games rules the market being it single player or whatever.

Zelda/FF etc pass way over 50 mill units sold

 

They are like an Indian car company vs. a german car company.

German cars are way overpriced i dont see the point

 

NCSoft have never published a good MMO and have no intention to ever consider the practice

Guild Wars ring any bells?(only published) or lineage 1 and 2(created)

 

Why does it matter if the graphics are poor? Thats not a good question

you find them poor, tons think otherwise

 

Same goes for adding anything new

and for the last point, its dated. This isnt a fresh vibrant world, its 2nd hand gaming at full retail price. You wouldnt pay full price for a used car I suspect?

Dated? its not even released yet :/

 

  supbro

Novice Member

Joined: 7/01/08
Posts: 327

7/13/09 9:58:34 AM#9

your missing one valid point that sells Aion to the world and makes it more innovative than any other MMO to date.... it has WINGS ... thats right you can fly baby!

Aion Gives you Wings!!!

  Averno

Novice Member

Joined: 4/04/05
Posts: 27

 
7/13/09 10:01:56 AM#10

All I can say is.. This just appears to be a kids MMO following an annoying marketing principle that if you put a bow on a piece of shit, its suddenly more than just a piece of shit.

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  pinkapples69

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Joined: 5/20/08
Posts: 53

7/13/09 10:02:53 AM#11

Playing wow after aion feels so toyish like your playing with toys instead of a video game aions world brings you in where as wows just looks like a giant toybox where everyone as there action figure all dressed up. Its immersive as hell and its combat is solid. Not really much more you need its easy to hate the game and generalize it on the nationality of it creators. But I believe the regardless of where people come from they can make a quality product if they work it and that happened here. Stop being a prude just play it before you bash it.

  User Deleted
7/13/09 10:04:07 AM#12

as others have stated, you've never played it and are judging on nothing but assumptions, and just trolling.

this is the first game i couldn't wait till we got it and played on korean and the chinese severs and still having alot of fun. and alot of people think wow sux and this is no comparision to WoW. honestly it feels more like an old school mmo to me, wich surprized me alot. post wow everything felt the same till aion. its not strictly a grouping game but its alot more fun to group up and do quests and better done in groups.

  Leucrotta

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Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 684

7/13/09 10:04:30 AM#13
Originally posted by Averno

 annoying marketing principle

 

Which is?

  User Deleted
7/13/09 10:09:20 AM#14

and you say it being 1.5 when we get its a bad thing?? you honestly haven't a clue, you do know its up to 1.5 because they want a PERFECT launch. i'm playing chinese retail right now and they're only like 1.0 or 1.1 i forget and it plays way better than most games released a year ago.

  GoldenDog

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Joined: 2/24/06
Posts: 580

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7/13/09 10:11:33 AM#15
Originally posted by Averno

Well.. Korean games are all crap.

They are like an Indian car company vs. a german car company.


 

Alright, well you know what?  People were actually trying to assist you in perspective up to this point.  Now you've just proven your ignorance and there's nothing left but to be flamed.  You might as well go back to the WoW forums because there's nothing left for you here.  If you cannot allow yourself to have an open mind, then you shouldn't question the world.

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  Electriceye

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Joined: 2/22/08
Posts: 1206

7/13/09 10:12:37 AM#16
Originally posted by Averno

Well.. Korean games are all crap.

They are like an Indian car company vs. a german car company.

NCSoft have never published a good MMO and have no intention to ever consider the practice

Why does it matter if the graphics are poor? Thats not a good question

Same goes for adding anything new

and for the last point, its dated. This isnt a fresh vibrant world, its 2nd hand gaming at full retail price. You wouldnt pay full price for a used car I suspect?

 

How confident!

 

"Korean games are all crap"

The most ignorant statement I've read in days. Generalizing is not the way to go. You haven't played all Korean games. Also a lot of people LOVE Korean games, so you shouldn't spew such nonsense.

 

"NCSoft have never published a good MMO and have no intention to ever consider the practice"

The second most ignorant statement. Again, millions of players LOVE Lineage 1 and 2, and quite a few do in the West as well. Don't spout mere opinions and pass them as the be all end all, it only makes you look stupid.

You obviously haven't been following anything about the game, as Aion has nothing to do with L1 or L2 except the art style, but I think it will put you off since you appear to be a tad racist.
 

"and for the last point, its dated. This isnt a fresh vibrant world, its 2nd hand gaming at full retail price. You wouldnt pay full price for a used car I suspect?"
 

Yes it's a few months old, onoes the End of the World is at hand!

And what flowed logic, comparing cars to MMOs. MMOs get better with time, bugs get ironed out, content gets added, client gets updated etc. and Since it's only a few months old, People are actually paying less than what it's worth. I would take this over the "fresh vibrant worlds" and "1rst hand gaming" of WAR , AoC, Vanguard, D&L and the like.

 

 

  Averno

Novice Member

Joined: 4/04/05
Posts: 27

 
7/13/09 10:40:07 AM#17

I assume that means if I 

say koreans are crap at..... then im racist?

But if I say americans or brits or germans are crap at.... then im not racist?

Its not a racist comment either way.

Anyway.. No.. Korean games are all terrible.

Lineage 1 & 2 were both awful

On a side note.. Guild Wars was also awful

If its true.. Its not nonsense.. and it is true.

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  Leucrotta

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 684

7/13/09 10:44:50 AM#18
Originally posted by Averno

If its true.. Its not nonsense.. and it is true.

 

Opinions aint truth

  elocke

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Joined: 6/15/04
Posts: 2916

7/13/09 10:51:14 AM#19

The OP is spot on. For those upset by his comments, I have to wonder why. Obviously his post is opinion based. Everyone's opinion is fact to them, so stating things in that way on a forum post isn't some strange way of trying to rewrite the world. Get over yourselves if you don't like his comments.

Second, I HAVE played the game and find his comments pretty spot on, IN MY OPINION! hahahahahahahah. If anything, someone above said "try it, you might be surprised." I tried it, and I was surprised. At how boring it was. At how it WAS NOT living up to the hype it is getting.

  patrikd23

Novice Member

Joined: 10/17/04
Posts: 1174

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

7/13/09 10:51:16 AM#20
Originally posted by Averno

Its a Korean MMO

Its published by NCSoft

It doesnt look visually attractive

It doesnt appear to bring anything new

Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5)

So what am I missing? Is it just that since around 2004 all of the recent MMO's have been crap and thus anything that doesnt look 3/10 suddenly jumps into everyones MMO GOTY list?

I dont get it, I think everyones being blinded by hope and marketing hype and neglecting to see this game for what it really is.. A ho-hum, run of the mill lineage2 clone.


We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge.

  Sovrath

Elite Member

Joined: 1/06/05
Posts: 11902

7/13/09 11:07:03 AM#21
Originally posted by Averno

Its a Korean MMO

Its published by NCSoft

It doesnt look visually attractive

It doesnt appear to bring anything new

Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5)

So what am I missing? Is it just that since around 2004 all of the recent MMO's have been crap and thus anything that doesnt look 3/10 suddenly jumps into everyones MMO GOTY list?

I dont get it, I think everyones being blinded by hope and marketing hype and neglecting to see this game for what it really is.. A ho-hum, run of the mill lineage2 clone.

 

Being a Korean MMO means????

NC soft, though an arrogant company in my opinion, is a good company. They might not be touchy feely but Lineage 2, Guild Wars (yes I know they published it, but they DID publish it) their publishing City of X and now they develop it, Dungeon Runners was fun, etc.

It does look visually attractive to me.

It does't have to be new, it has to have the right blend of ingredients that people are looking for. So in the end it is just not your game.

  lornphoenix

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Joined: 11/16/05
Posts: 997

7/13/09 11:17:34 AM#22

@OP

1st off the Game looks great, but some people don't like the art style (anime-ish)

To me it is visually attractive.

When I saw NCSOFT was making the game I wrote the game off too....
But then I played the Chinese retail of it... and fell in love with it.
The graphics... The way it plays... it's not prefect, but I still like it.
I didn't like Lineage 1 or 2, and thought Guild Wars was just OK...
Oh... and didn't CoH either... and don't even get me started on TR.

Tho is shares of Lineage 2 features, it don't feel like Lineage at all.

You're right about not bringing anything new to MMOs, but does really matter?
It a fun game that does things, done before, it's own way, improves on some of them.
 

 

  hooks

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Joined: 8/20/07
Posts: 39

7/13/09 11:18:13 AM#23

If you dont like the game, why are you so interested in it?


  patrikd23

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Joined: 10/17/04
Posts: 1174

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

7/13/09 11:19:27 AM#24
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Averno

Its a Korean MMO

Its published by NCSoft

It doesnt look visually attractive

It doesnt appear to bring anything new

Its clearly not new itself (being v1.5)

So what am I missing? Is it just that since around 2004 all of the recent MMO's have been crap and thus anything that doesnt look 3/10 suddenly jumps into everyones MMO GOTY list?

I dont get it, I think everyones being blinded by hope and marketing hype and neglecting to see this game for what it really is.. A ho-hum, run of the mill lineage2 clone.

 

Being a Korean MMO means????

NC soft, though an arrogant company in my opinion, is a good company. They might not be touchy feely but Lineage 2, Guild Wars (yes I know they published it, but they DID publish it) their publishing City of X and now they develop it, Dungeon Runners was fun, etc.

It does look visually attractive to me.

It does't have to be new, it has to have the right blend of ingredients that people are looking for. So in the end it is just not your game.

 

Agreed, if they want a new mmo they should make one. If the game is fun and entertaining with something to strive for I am willing to give it a go. And I think this game was fun got 2 chars to level 20, and I am not bored yet. I think this is no grinding game by a longshot. I played grindgames and this is nothing like it. And I cant talk more about the game until I have atleast 1 max level, because at that point I got all the facts. I couldnt care less about what ignorant people says about a game after playing it for 5-10 level.

  patrikd23

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Joined: 10/17/04
Posts: 1174

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

7/13/09 11:26:04 AM#25
Originally posted by hooks

If you dont like the game, why are you so interested in it?


 

He is just intrested in seeing it burn, like many others. Reasons? I dont really know ; it could be that their computer is too old and too slow. That they wanna be original and just flame games that is taking  people from his/her game. He could be a employe for another game company. Or just a person with a mouth for mmo and belly that can never be filled no matter what new games come out. We will never know for sure...

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