Originally posted by Barteaux

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

and it's because of stuff like this, that when I got my e-mail I just LAUGHED until I could barely breathe.

There's NO WAY I would go back to AoC now.

 

So because of this post on mmorpg.com you decided not to go back to AoC?

 

I guess the last laugh belongs to someone else

Sounds like it belongs to him, he doesn't spend any time on a game he was disappointed with, that is disappointing people that went back to it.

There's nothing that makes me want to use the trial to go back.  My guardian got nerfraped enough when I played, nothing I've seen or heard makes the game appealing, and the 'start a new character at level 50' thing is just screaming fail.  Why stop at 50?  Just give them a level 80 and be done with it.

Interesting that the people who have been bashing the game for a while are also the same ones with "stability" problems. Ya. Right.

I have a low-end system AMD 64 3500+, 3G RAM and a 9600GT and I can run this game with high settings. I never crash or have experienced this memory leak a few of the basher's seem to have. I have had the "man on fire" thing happen with my HoX though. Kinda funny but zoning kills it.

From what I've read, the people really giving this game a hard time are the same ones who have been around for a while giving it a hard time. If the game was perfect ... and its not ... they would still give it a hard time.

It takes all kinds I guess.

Originally posted by Malkosha

Interesting that the people who have been bashing the game for a while are also the same ones with "stability" problems. Ya. Right.

I have a low-end system AMD 64 3500+, 3G RAM and a 9600GT and I can run this game with high settings. I never crash or have experienced this memory leak a few of the basher's seem to have. I have had the "man on fire" thing happen with my HoX though. Kinda funny but zoning kills it.

From what I've read, the people really giving this game a hard time are the same ones who have been around for a while giving it a hard time. If the game was perfect ... and its not ... they would still give it a hard time.

 

It takes all kinds I guess.

 

I don't get this, there is a lot of 'if you don't love the game now, youre a hater' mentality here, on the official forums and especially in the game.

You admitted the game isn't perfect, there a people with systems WAY better than yours that still have issues running the game. There are people with newer ATI cards who just recently started having problems running the game.

I never had any problems even at launch, but  friends with the exact same rig specs pulled their hair out for weeks trying to make it work before quitting in disgust. I certainly never told em "I don't have that problem, youre just hating!, GTFO go back to WoW!"

If the fans are going to spit on and every returning players who doesn't scream 'bestest game evar!" than many will be chased  away and Fun Com will have wasted a buncha money on the re-eval promo.

Weird to see so many supposed fans keep trolling so their game gets flamed more. Talk about stupid.

Originally posted by Agricola1

I think AoC is at the same stage as many failing MMORPGs at the moment, where they institute many cosmetic changes but fail to address the burning issues. New content and character balance aren't going to bring in more players, never has nor will in my opinion. What needs to be addressed is flawed mechanics and game design. This means getting rid of all those exploits and the memory leak that is still in existance, doing something about the tedious PvP system and doing something major concerning instancing.

Only after addressing these issues will players return, AoC already has plenty of content and balancing classes can wait. Funcom need to change end game drastically and I don't mean by adding more instanced battlekeeps, they need to remove instancing with battlekeeps and remove the exploits that have been there since launch. Allow lowbies to get involved with the combat alongside lvl 80s, allow anyone that turns up to view the combat and/or get involved. Instancing sux, fact! Remove it and people will play. PvP mechanics are bad, a novelty at first but soon become tedius to the majority, replace them with a less button mashing intensive system. The PvP system sux, fact, overhall it and introduce what was suggested at launch not a watered down mamby pamby system that doesn't matter anyway and is just a grind.

I accept that most of this isn't going to happen as it's too much work to change the core system now that they're working on a different MMORPG. So let's hope they learn from their second disaster and make Secret World a decent MMORPG and bid farewell to what AoC could have been.

Exactly.

My biggest gripe with the core mechanics is that the combat system does not lend itself well to interesting and/or challenging end game raids.  Everyman and his dog just runs in and bashes away, even the healers!.  With shitty CC and not much in the way of direct healing, everything just comes across as a big mess.

Do these crashes come lateer in the game or something? Just asking because I am playing on a 5 year old dell with a radeon 9800 pro video card and havent had a hitch yet, and I am enjoying the game so far.

Originally posted by boognish75

Do these crashes come lateer in the game or something? Just asking because I am playing on a 5 year old dell with a radeon 9800 pro video card and havent had a hitch yet, and I am enjoying the game so far.

My guess is that is because you are playing in DX9 with a lot of the effects turned way down or turned off altogether.

Whatever the reason I have experienced more problems with AoC's client than I have with any game since  the Auto Assault early beta client. Even the Vanguard beta client did not ever crash me or lock me up so I doubt it is my machine.

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Barteaux

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

and it's because of stuff like this, that when I got my e-mail I just LAUGHED until I could barely breathe.

There's NO WAY I would go back to AoC now.

 

So because of this post on mmorpg.com you decided not to go back to AoC?

 

I guess the last laugh belongs to someone else

 

Who, exactly?  Loss of customers is loss of customers, regardless.  If you like AoC, you want people playing it...more subs equal more money, equals more content, updates and improvements.  Unless, of course, you want the game to fail faster than it is currently.

Actually I'm laughing.  You guys really should take a look at how it changed.  I played when it first relased and left because fo the memory leak issues.  But I came back for the two-weeks and was so impressed about the changes I resubbed. 
 

To the OP, First, It's a combo system you shouldn't be doing max damage if you don't get teh combo right.  And usually I can't amek teh first hit if I'm not next to the mob (yay melee).  But I just come to expect it, it doesn't bother me or many others It alk to.  It sounds to me like you need a new computer.  I run a mid-range machine (AMD Athlon x2 64-bit dual-core, 4 gigs DDR2, and a Radeon HD3650 1-gig video card, Win XP 64-bit OS).  I run this with all the graphical options turned all the way up.  Because it's mid-range I expect the textures to load longer but again it doesn't bother me.

I guess I must have the patience of a saint when it comes to this game but in all honesty they did make a ton of positive changes which show they are headed in teh right direction to get the game on track of where it needs to be.  Unlike companies int eh past who just give up and falter instead giving it their all to improve a game (*cough* Flagship *Cough*) these guys stuck around in the bleakest hour and continued to work because they love their job and their project.  This game is a vast improvement over what was launched.

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by boognish75

Do these crashes come lateer in the game or something? Just asking because I am playing on a 5 year old dell with a radeon 9800 pro video card and havent had a hitch yet, and I am enjoying the game so far.

My guess is that is because you are playing in DX9 with a lot of the effects turned way down or turned off altogether.

Whatever the reason I have experienced more problems with AoC's client than I have with any game since  the Auto Assault early beta client. Even the Vanguard beta client did not ever crash me or lock me up so I doubt it is my machine.

I am not sure what makes the game lock up for different folks. I run at high graphics with nearly everything maxed out without issue. Of course, my gaming machine is pretty new and was built for high end gaming (Dell XPS fully loaded).

Most of the time, I believe it is the graphics card. A friend of mine use to have a lot of issues running WoW on her laptop until she got a updated driver from HP.

Originally posted by catlana

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by boognish75

Do these crashes come lateer in the game or something? Just asking because I am playing on a 5 year old dell with a radeon 9800 pro video card and havent had a hitch yet, and I am enjoying the game so far.

My guess is that is because you are playing in DX9 with a lot of the effects turned way down or turned off altogether.

Whatever the reason I have experienced more problems with AoC's client than I have with any game since  the Auto Assault early beta client. Even the Vanguard beta client did not ever crash me or lock me up so I doubt it is my machine.

 

I am not sure what makes the game lock up for different folks. I run at high graphics with nearly everything maxed out without issue. Of course, my gaming machine is pretty new and was built for high end gaming (Dell XPS fully loaded).

 

Most of the time, I believe it is the graphics card. A friend of mine use to have a lot of issues running WoW on her laptop until she got a updated driver from HP.

I figure mine is a mid range machine and getting a bit long in the tooth, but I built it for gaming a couple of years ago.

E8400 Wolfdale running on a Gigabyte DQ6 motherboard, 6 gig Corsair memory, OCZ 850 watt power supply, a coupl eof velociraptor HDs for  the games and a big old WD for the nongame files Nothing is overclocked but there is a  Noctus CPU cooler in case I ever feel the need to OC, Swifttech northbridge cooler for the same reason, EVGA 260GTX running at stock clocks, Win 7 release candidate 64 bit.

The machine has never locked up or crashed until this release of AoC, Even the launch client and the client version last January never crashed or locked up, but I was running XP 32 bit at launch and WIn 7 32 bit in the  last time I tried it. It might be a 64 bit compatibility problem.

Oh and I played yesterday after I did the reinstall for about 2 and a half or three hours with no problems at all

I heard about the trial but I have no interest whatsoever. Not because AoC is a horrible game (Funcom gave it their best shot LOL) but because all the MMORPGs coming out these days are old news. AoC, WoW, WAR, now Aion.... their all the same. Sure their are some gameplay differences and of course graphics are different but their core is basically the same.

I just recently stopped playing the "generic" MMOs and switched to Guild Wars simply because I've never tried it and the concept looked differenent. I gotta say I'm more then impressed. For an MMO thats free..its probly the most thought out and fun online game I've played since getting into the MMO scene.

I hope a company comes out with something totally unique and different in the future but until then I refuse to pay companies monthly until they start producing something we havent already seen for the past 5 years....

Originally posted by Ravenmane

Originally posted by Eben

Originally posted by Barteaux

Originally posted by Wharg0ul

and it's because of stuff like this, that when I got my e-mail I just LAUGHED until I could barely breathe.

There's NO WAY I would go back to AoC now.

 

So because of this post on mmorpg.com you decided not to go back to AoC?

 

I guess the last laugh belongs to someone else

 

Who, exactly?  Loss of customers is loss of customers, regardless.  If you like AoC, you want people playing it...more subs equal more money, equals more content, updates and improvements.  Unless, of course, you want the game to fail faster than it is currently.

Actually I'm laughing.  You guys really should take a look at how it changed.  I played when it first relased and left because fo the memory leak issues.  But I came back for the two-weeks and was so impressed about the changes I resubbed. 
 

To the OP, First, It's a combo system you shouldn't be doing max damage if you don't get teh combo right.  And usually I can't amek teh first hit if I'm not next to the mob (yay melee).  But I just come to expect it, it doesn't bother me or many others It alk to.  It sounds to me like you need a new computer.  I run a mid-range machine (AMD Athlon x2 64-bit dual-core, 4 gigs DDR2, and a Radeon HD3650 1-gig video card, Win XP 64-bit OS).  I run this with all the graphical options turned all the way up.  Because it's mid-range I expect the textures to load longer but again it doesn't bother me.

I guess I must have the patience of a saint when it comes to this game but in all honesty they did make a ton of positive changes which show they are headed in teh right direction to get the game on track of where it needs to be.  Unlike companies int eh past who just give up and falter instead giving it their all to improve a game (*cough* Flagship *Cough*) these guys stuck around in the bleakest hour and continued to work because they love their job and their project.  This game is a vast improvement over what was launched.

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To the OP, First, It's a combo system you shouldn't be doing max damage if you don't get teh combo right. And usually I can't amek teh first hit if I'm not next to the mob (yay melee). But I just come to expect it, it doesn't bother me or many others It alk to. It sounds to me like you need a new computer. I run a mid-range machine (AMD Athlon x2 64-bit dual-core, 4 gigs DDR2, and a Radeon HD3650 1-gig video card, Win XP 64-bit OS). I run this with all the graphical options turned all the way up. Because it's mid-range I expect the textures to load longer but again it doesn't bother me.

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I've really got to call bullshit on the system specs part. I run a 9800M GTS 1GB, 4GB DDR3 Ram, 2.1ghz Core2duo and Vista 64bit and I would be lucky to get around 20-25 FPS with most of the options up. (not even all of them up all of the way).

Point is if I can run Crysis at a better frame rate than this game there is a problem. And how you can put up with textures taking time to load is beyond me, it makes the game look terrible, not to mention that when you're lagging and textures look as bad as they do you have to wonder why you should even bother.

Originally posted by Nadril

 

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To the OP, First, It's a combo system you shouldn't be doing max damage if you don't get teh combo right. And usually I can't amek teh first hit if I'm not next to the mob (yay melee). But I just come to expect it, it doesn't bother me or many others It alk to. It sounds to me like you need a new computer. I run a mid-range machine (AMD Athlon x2 64-bit dual-core, 4 gigs DDR2, and a Radeon HD3650 1-gig video card, Win XP 64-bit OS). I run this with all the graphical options turned all the way up. Because it's mid-range I expect the textures to load longer but again it doesn't bother me.

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I've really got to call bullshit on the system specs part. I run a 9800M GTS 1GB, 4GB DDR3 Ram, 2.1ghz Core2duo and Vista 64bit and I would be lucky to get around 20-25 FPS with most of the options up. (not even all of them up all of the way).

Point is if I can run Crysis at a better frame rate than this game there is a problem. And how you can put up with textures taking time to load is beyond me, it makes the game look terrible, not to mention that when you're lagging and textures look as bad as they do you have to wonder why you should even bother.

There are a lot of factors that contribute to fps...

I was getting around 40 fps in DX 10 with a system almost identical to his/hers. I dropped down to DX 9 and I get around 80 fps with most settings on high and a few distance tweaks. I have the 8800 GT 512 by the way.

Originally posted by Ravenmane

Actually I'm laughing.  You guys really should take a look at how it changed.  I played when it first relased and left because fo the memory leak issues.  But I came back for the two-weeks and was so impressed about the changes I resubbed. 
 

To the OP, First, It's a combo system you shouldn't be doing max damage if you don't get teh combo right.  And usually I can't amek teh first hit if I'm not next to the mob (yay melee).  But I just come to expect it, it doesn't bother me or many others It alk to.  It sounds to me like you need a new computer.  I run a mid-range machine (AMD Athlon x2 64-bit dual-core, 4 gigs DDR2, and a Radeon HD3650 1-gig video card, Win XP 64-bit OS).  I run this with all the graphical options turned all the way up.  Because it's mid-range I expect the textures to load longer but again it doesn't bother me.

I guess I must have the patience of a saint when it comes to this game but in all honesty they did make a ton of positive changes which show they are headed in teh right direction to get the game on track of where it needs to be.  Unlike companies int eh past d to work because they love their job and their project.  This game is a vast improvement over what was launwho just give up and falter instead giving it their all to improve a game (*cough* Flagship *Cough*) these guys stuck around in the bleakest hour and continueched.

  The memory leaks are still there for some people. Not all, but some. I happened to be in the minority and I had already mentioned that my card was in the lowest range, so... I don't know? However, if you go to the support forums you will see that some people with higher end machines are experiencing the same problem as well, so it's not just a problem reserved for older machines.

See that's the problem: If you had played this game from release, then you would be accustomed to pre-loading combos. "Getting the combo right" used to be hitting all the keys in the sequence, now you have to CONNET with ALL OF THE MOVES, which is no trivial task in PvP and actually makes it a bit boring for two melee classes fighting each other compared to the old method. How that correlates to performance on my machine really eludes me.

That's a real nice team motivation speech, but I'm really not that impressed with the changes. The content added was.. somewhat.. significant, but crafting still sucks (and is very trivial compared to drops/rep rewards now, while it had been useful when gem armor was useful), the combat is a lot slower due to the nerf to melee dmg (unless you're a magic class) and the PvP system is basically the same as it had been only with rewards based on a grind. They could have at least added an arena, or something. Conan, back in the day, was well-suited for arena and I hope they add it for you guys who are still playing.

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by Nadril

 

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To the OP, First, It's a combo system you shouldn't be doing max damage if you don't get teh combo right. And usually I can't amek teh first hit if I'm not next to the mob (yay melee). But I just come to expect it, it doesn't bother me or many others It alk to. It sounds to me like you need a new computer. I run a mid-range machine (AMD Athlon x2 64-bit dual-core, 4 gigs DDR2, and a Radeon HD3650 1-gig video card, Win XP 64-bit OS). I run this with all the graphical options turned all the way up. Because it's mid-range I expect the textures to load longer but again it doesn't bother me.

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I've really got to call bullshit on the system specs part. I run a 9800M GTS 1GB, 4GB DDR3 Ram, 2.1ghz Core2duo and Vista 64bit and I would be lucky to get around 20-25 FPS with most of the options up. (not even all of them up all of the way).

Point is if I can run Crysis at a better frame rate than this game there is a problem. And how you can put up with textures taking time to load is beyond me, it makes the game look terrible, not to mention that when you're lagging and textures look as bad as they do you have to wonder why you should even bother.

There are a lot of factors that contribute to fps...

I was getting around 40 fps in DX 10 with a system almost identical to his/hers. I dropped down to DX 9 and I get around 80 fps with most settings on high and a few distance tweaks. I have the 8800 GT 512 by the way.

Honestly my framerate sucks.  If I want to improve my framerate (from 8 fps) then I need the settings on low.  Wierd thing is everything is still moving fluidly with the high settings.  So I'm wondering if the number the latency bar shows is the real number or not.