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Originally posted by Greyloop So do you think they actually made AC2 to appeal to all their AC1 players? Why would you do that? First you do not want to go and make a game that is going to appeal to players that are allready playing and paying to play your origional game. Whats the point in that? Player A that is allready paying for AC1 will now just swith to AC2 if it was just a clone of AC1 with better graphics and featuers. What then have they accomplished? No I belive AC2 did the right thing in trying to make it the same yet very different. Obviously it faled for some other reason but I would completley disagree wiht you if you are saying they should have just made a AC1 but better.
Well clearly your line of thinking is the wrong choice - because as I recall AC2 failed most meserably due to the fact that it was not a true sequel. Nevermind the broken chat, the broken classes, the broken skill trees, the flawed PvP system and lack there of, and Turbines failure to stop exploiting early on in the game, and the lack of guild related tools, the empty - souless cities and game world...need I go on..because I can. I was a pioneer(inside joke if you played the game) I was in the game for beta nd for its release. We were promised great things by Turbine and they delivered none of it. So AC2 died...and good riddence to bad garbage.
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Originally posted by Teala Well clearly your line of thinking is the wrong choice - because as I recall AC2 failed most meserably due to the fact that it was not a true sequel. Nevermind the broken chat, the broken classes, the broken skill trees, the flawed PvP system and lack there of, and Turbines failure to stop exploiting early on in the game, and the lack of guild related tools, the empty - souless cities and game world...need I go on..because I can. I was a pioneer(inside joke if you played the game) I was in the game for beta nd for its release. We were promised great things by Turbine and they delivered none of it. So AC2 died...and good riddence to bad garbage. First of all the game failed because of some of the things you listed above but not because it wasn't a True sequel (I would love to see where you have facts to show this game failed because it wasn't a sequel). I played the game from start to finish until the game shut down. I played on Darktide and had some of my best memories in that game. How many players does AC1 even have? How many did they even have in their prime time? So the question is if you are a company looking to create the next best MMO do you try and just copy your own game but make it better or do you try and create a game that will hopefully be the next best thing? Why would you just want to pull your subscribers from your own game to the next game? What then did you achive? MMO's are like books. Is there the BEST book? Do you think everyone wants just ONE ultimate BOOK? Hell no. There are hundreds of MMO's and that is what is great! It gives us flavor...It gives us choices. AC2 was one of these Flavors that for some of us was Fantastic. Does that mean it sucked? Hell no it doesnt. Maybe to you it sucked but that does not mean it wasnt a great game. Does a book suck just because people dont know about it? Does a book suck because I dont like it but you do? I completley understand what you are saying when it comes to AC2's failures but to just simply come out and say the game was a piece of crap..it sucked...it should have been a copy/sequal to AC1 and then it would have been great just doesnt make sense to me. |
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Originally posted by SirBongsAlot Microsoft was very much involved with AC2 prior to and through the first year after launch. It is pretty well-known that they rushed it to launch far too early, when there was insufficient content and known exploits still unplugged. Then it was the Microsoft GUN server that crapped out and prevented chat for an extended period that drove away a lot of players. Turbine got the rights to the IP, but it was already too late for AC2. It was patched up and working well before the end, but almost noone was playing, so it was closed. At the time, it was rare for a game to close, but since then games with higher sub rates have been closed faster (ie Tabula Rasa). The game closed at the end of 2005, lasting three years. It's been 3 1/2 years since that closure, longer than the game was live, and yet there are still very loyal fans hoping the game will be resurrected somehow. Rather telling. I'd love to see it again. I rather doubt Turbine would consider a f2p option, since I can't see them devoting time to an RMT store like the one in DDO:U. If they just opened a couple servers and made it totally free, there is no income to support operating costs. What they could do is tack on a low monthly sub fee and hitch it to another game sub, and make it a mini-"Station Pass" situation similar to what SOE does.
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MS did not own the rights. they owned the hardware. when MS got out of hosting.....Turbine didn't want to buy the hardware. they bought the hardware from MS to continue hosting AC. SO Turbine probably doesn't want to spend the money on setting all up again to make anything |
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Originally posted by Teala Well clearly your line of thinking is the wrong choice - because as I recall AC2 failed most meserably due to the fact that it was not a true sequel. Nevermind the broken chat, the broken classes, the broken skill trees, the flawed PvP system and lack there of, and Turbines failure to stop exploiting early on in the game, and the lack of guild related tools, the empty - souless cities and game world...need I go on..because I can. I was a pioneer(inside joke if you played the game) I was in the game for beta nd for its release. We were promised great things by Turbine and they delivered none of it. So AC2 died...and good riddence to bad garbage.
No, cleary its your line of thinking is the wrong choice. He got to enjoy a great game, did you? I swear, everytime I read these kind of posts, AC2 wasnt AC1 with updated graphics - /whine, I smile alittle. Not because they are funny, but rather of their ignorance. Most former AC1 players, me included, had a hard time recognizing AC1's features through AC2 layout. We didnt see what we wanted to see, but AC1 and AC2 are/was almost identical with minor differences.
These are the things AC2 had taken from AC1 that was important to me. There were many more features taken from AC1, which were just presented differently in AC2. Some differences between the two:
Even with these diffences, the core of AC1 RPG rules and gameplay was put into AC2. Blaming Turbine for you not recognizing the features, seems rather silly to me. You even hail AC1 for their semi-twitch combat system, dodging arrows and spells FTW!... when the truth is, AC2 had the very same thing. Identical. One thing is sure. Turbine had a lose - lose situation pleasing the AC1 fans... |
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I would definatly try ac2, As this is one of the gam,es i didnt to get to at least try and i wish i would have. playing eq2 and two worlds |
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Originally posted by Greyloop
Having beta tested AC2 and trying hard to like it after it launched I wouldn't even play it if it was F2P. Seriously AC1 is leaps and bounds better than AC2 ever was. Turbine would have to pay me to play AC2 again. |
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AC2 never really died. It was morphed and reborn again.
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Originally posted by Greyloop
Hey here's a thought... Maybe MMORPG.com reopened these AC2 forums because they are gearing up for this to actually happen....LOL I know I know its a dream but one can always wish right. Seriously though.....other then some money that would maybe have to be put out in marketing the idea sounds sound to me to.
Yeah, and Earth and Beyond and Mourning are coming back too since their forums have reappeared also. These forums being brought back was the result of someone's coding fuckup. |
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Originally posted by Malkosha
Lotro isnt even close to being like AC2. Where did that come from? Same engine - newer and modified, yes. Same Game mechanics - Not true. Lotro is using the EQ game mechanics. AC2 was using the AC1 game mechanics. Same Combat - Not even close. AC2 had a twich combat system. Same swimming - lol okey, Ill give you that one |
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To clarify since there is a lot of confusion.
Microsoft owned the AC IP up until well into Ac2 when it was purchased for 8 million? dollars after they gained new private investors.
Sony was launching a publishing division near the time, and Turbine went with them because they were cheap. They had problems with some of the discs. Their agreement was simply make the cd and ship it out. Lv 65 Ranger |
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Lotro isn't ac2 just because their are preset classes which made the game unfun for me the pvp system blew lotro is just no fun. Ac2 > Ac1 any day IMO
/Throws on flame suit for ac1 flamin losers |
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you bugger OP.. |
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Originally posted by Teala Well clearly your line of thinking is the wrong choice - because as I recall AC2 failed most meserably due to the fact that it was not a true sequel. Nevermind the broken chat, the broken classes, the broken skill trees, the flawed PvP system and lack there of, and Turbines failure to stop exploiting early on in the game, and the lack of guild related tools, the empty - souless cities and game world...need I go on..because I can. I was a pioneer(inside joke if you played the game) I was in the game for beta nd for its release. We were promised great things by Turbine and they delivered none of it. So AC2 died...and good riddence to bad garbage.
Your completely wrong and logical becouse your just a ac1 fanboi who come here and troll becouse you hate ac2. AC2 failed becouse of lack advertisement and to early released not what you mentioned maybe small fraction of ac1 haters demonize ac2 for what it was. AC2 was great mmo for its time and all who play it a lot love ac2 more then all ac1 players together. AC1 should be free 2 play now its old and outdated AC2 still would compete with many mmo's out there even grafhics wise. Go troll on your ac1 forums:P |
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I never played AC2, but I've been curious now for some time. I would definitely give it a try if it was re-released. I have a pretty strong feeling, though, considering the baggage from killing the title and the length of (technological) time passed that this is never going to happen. But an AC3? I could see that happening. If you think about it, bringing the AC2 engine up to date with the modern AC engine (I forget what they're calling it) would probably be a big enough task to warrant just creating a new title altogether. Of course I could be wrong, look at what Valve did when they updated their older games to Source. But Valve is an exceptional gamesmaker, so I won't bother to count on it. |
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If Lotro is the true successor to AC2...Wheres my tactician dammit. |
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Originally posted by Greyloop Courious to see what your thoughts are on why they wouldnt want to do this. What would be the downsided to setting something up like this in your opinion?
Im positive he have never played AC2 as so many they just troll forums whit hate replys:( |
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Originally posted by AlienShirt
Having beta tested AC2 and trying hard to like it after it launched I wouldn't even play it if it was F2P. Seriously AC1 is leaps and bounds better than AC2 ever was. Turbine would have to pay me to play AC2 again.
Lol you eather have never played AC2 or just as so many ac1 players thought it would be ac1 with better grafhics and you demonize ac2 sind then your just haters/trolls nothing more:( |
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Originally posted by Greyloop
You hit the nail right on the Head! This is exactally what I would do. One PvE and one PVP server and F2P. COME ON TURBINE!!
Where do I sign up? :D I miss this game terribly ! |
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they are raising another 50 mill in Venture captialism. We can hope.
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Originally posted by Hadorak
Where do I sign up? :D I miss this game terribly !
It won't happen for many reasons, but they should just let someone else run the game give them the code so they can make a free 2 play server. Im positive that there would be plenty who wanne play AC2 specially with so many who have now so much better PC then 4-5 years ago, game is still great looking comepare to many mmo's out there right now. Plus its a great party quest game to have lots of fun with unique TACTS! And far better music instrument system to play music with others then LOTR:) |
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Damn it, I thought they were doing it from the title of the post. >_> Well I would give it a shot I guess. I liked it then but not sure if I would enjoy it anymore. We look back at games from the past with rose colored glasses sometimes. With alot more people introduced to MMO's since AC2 was released and then canceled it may find a better audience now than it did then.
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I think there is a need for a few updates to it, like a cancel button for quests you don't want to do. and being able to add people to groups over mass distance instead of requiring to be face to face. |
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bring AC2 BACK!!! |
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Originally posted by shovi12
Maybe your wish come true! AC2 deserves this:) |
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