Would you pick up this game again if they did a relaunch with their expansion "Legions", made some system improvments to bring it up to par with the LOTRO engine, but made it a Free 2 Play MMO?

I hate you...

The thread title made me think it was happening, not another "what if" post.

Damnit, don't ever do that again.

 (and probably)

Originally posted by skeaser

I hate you...

The thread title made me think it was happening, not another "what if" post.

I know I am sorry..... I would just LOVE it if this game would at least come back as a F2P option.....

It will most likley never happen though :(

There is no reason why Turbine can't do what they did for DDO for AC2.

DDO was obviously losing players and had low subs.

Relaunch AC2 as a Free to Play game, update the engine, which is an earlier version of the Lotro/DDO engine and put it out there as a digital download. Include the expansion as well. Start it clean.

TBH, I would pay to play AC2 again, but regardless, I would definitely play a F2P AC2. DDO is now going F2P and I didn't even bother because it doesn't interest me.

The game was pretty polished and had all class and crafting revamps already. It was a "working" MMO that just had a low player base and an engine that was probably too ahead of it's time for 2002.

There is a fanbase that exists, there are other message boards with activity and people wanting this game revived. It may not be millions but I would say if they opened 2 servers, PvE and a PvP, they would be filled.

There are lots of F2P games and even SOE has one, Free Realms. AC2 blows that game away.

COME ON TURBINE!

yes, I definitely would. I never got to play AC2, and that saddens me greatly. Also, watch the exciting yet deceptive thread titles. they bring much disappointment. 

T_T

Originally posted by Yaboze

There is no reason why Turbine can't do what they did for DDO for AC2.

DDO was obviously losing players and had low subs.

Relaunch AC2 as a Free to Play game, update the engine, which is an earlier version of the Lotro/DDO engine and put it out there as a digital download. Include the expansion as well. Start it clean.

TBH, I would pay to play AC2 again, but regardless, I would definitely play a F2P AC2. DDO is now going F2P and I didn't even bother because it doesn't interest me.

The game was pretty polished and had all class and crafting revamps already. It was a "working" MMO that just had a low player base and an engine that was probably too ahead of it's time for 2002.

There is a fanbase that exists, there are other message boards with activity and people wanting this game revived. It may not be millions but I would say if they opened 2 servers, PvE and a PvP, they would be filled.

There are lots of F2P games and even SOE has one, Free Realms. AC2 blows that game away.

COME ON TURBINE!

 

You hit the nail right on the Head!  This is exactally what I would do.  One PvE and one PVP server and F2P.

COME ON TURBINE!!

Not in a million years.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Not in a million years.

Courious to see what your thoughts are on why they wouldnt want to do this.
 

What would be the downsided to setting something up like this in your opinion?

Originally posted by Greyloop

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Not in a million years.

Courious to see what your thoughts are on why they wouldnt want to do this.
 

What would be the downsided to setting something up like this in your opinion?

The only potential downside for Turbine would be if they actually had a new Asheron's Call in the works.  They may still be holding on to the idea that at some point, they will re-release AC using the LOTRO engine but keeping the skill system, death penalties, etc.

If that were the case, it wouldn't be in their best interest to revive a product that could be in a position to compete with a new AC release.

Otherwise, the base idea is sound. Has anyone pitched it on any Turbine forums, via email to the devs, etc.?

My heart skipped a beat for a second :). dx 10/11 please :D

Yea AC 2 pwns i dont see why that cant just do what they did with DDO 

 Awwwe I got my hopes up. : (

I am affraid that the AC franchise is a dead issue since the debaucle of AC 2. You can't blame Turbine though, it was Microsofts fault for pushing AC 2 out the door before they were ready.

We are stuck with the old AC forever! 

Originally posted by Brianadams73

Yea AC 2 pwns i dont see why that cant just do what they did with DDO 

Hey here's a thought...

Maybe MMORPG.com reopened these AC2 forums because they are gearing up for this to actually happen....LOL I know I know its a dream but one can always wish right.

Seriously though.....other then some money that would maybe have to be put out in marketing the idea sounds sound to me to.

Originally posted by Tivian

I am affraid that the AC franchise is a dead issue since the debaucle of AC 2. You can't blame Turbine though, it was Microsofts fault for pushing AC 2 out the door before they were ready.

We are stuck with the old AC forever! 

Yes you are correct in that there are many things that were out of Turbines control but now that turbine has broken away from microsoft the control is in there hands.

I do not understand why a company would spend YEARS developing a product and then shelve it.  That sure is a ton of work just sitting there on a shelf.

Do you guys think that it really costs that much to keep 2 servers going on a game, maybe a website, some forums, etc?

Maybe I just dont get it but it sure seems they could actually start making a profit if they did a F2P option.

Sure i would play AC2 if it was f2p, but ill doub they ever relaunch it.

Couldn't tell you. Other than they don't want to spend the time or money to make it happen.

Originally posted by Greyloop

Originally posted by Tivian

I am affraid that the AC franchise is a dead issue since the debaucle of AC 2. You can't blame Turbine though, it was Microsofts fault for pushing AC 2 out the door before they were ready.

We are stuck with the old AC forever! 

 

Yes you are correct in that there are many things that were out of Turbines control but now that turbine has broken away from microsoft the control is in there hands.

I do not understand why a company would spend YEARS developing a product and then shelve it.  That sure is a ton of work just sitting there on a shelf.

Do you guys think that it really costs that much to keep 2 servers going on a game, maybe a website, some forums, etc?

Maybe I just dont get it but it sure seems they could actually start making a profit if they did a F2P option.

I am curious if Asheron's Call 2 might be tied up because of who owns the rights. Does Microsoft own the rights or does Turbine?

Originally posted by qombi

Originally posted by Greyloop

Originally posted by Tivian

I am affraid that the AC franchise is a dead issue since the debaucle of AC 2. You can't blame Turbine though, it was Microsofts fault for pushing AC 2 out the door before they were ready.

We are stuck with the old AC forever! 

 

Yes you are correct in that there are many things that were out of Turbines control but now that turbine has broken away from microsoft the control is in there hands.

I do not understand why a company would spend YEARS developing a product and then shelve it.  That sure is a ton of work just sitting there on a shelf.

Do you guys think that it really costs that much to keep 2 servers going on a game, maybe a website, some forums, etc?

Maybe I just dont get it but it sure seems they could actually start making a profit if they did a F2P option.

 

I am curious if Asheron's Call 2 might be tied up because of who owns the rights. Does Microsoft own the rights or does Turbine?

I believe Turbine bought all the rights to the game when they stepped out into their own company.  However in looking on the internet it looks like "Sony online Entertainment" helped turbine market and launch the "Legions" Expansion. So I am not sure if sony somehow has any ties to it.

Here is the post from Wikipedia:

"Both games were developed by Turbine Entertainment Software and originally published by Microsoft, until Turbine purchased the Asheron's Call franchise in December 2003. The Microsoft to Turbine transition was completed in spring 2005. In 2004 and 2005, Turbine entered business arrangements with Jolt Online Gaming to operate AC2 in Europe and with Sony Online Entertainment to distribute the game's first expansion, Asheron's Call 2: Legions, under the Station Publishing label.

I hope it never comes back AC 2 was an embarrestment(sp) to the Asheron's Call name, thats what happens when Devs say they will listen to their players and then turn it all upside down and fucked up!!!!!!!!!  Now if they made Asheron's Call 3: Asheron's Rebirth then I'd be all over that....I do believe that MS was outa the picture 1-2yrs before the shit pile that was Asheron's Call 2....I played Asheron's Call from Dec'99(Shadow Wars)-June'05

Originally posted by SirBongsAlot

I hope it never comes back AC 2 was an embarrestment(sp) to the Asheron's Call name, thats what happens when Devs say they will listen to their players and then turn it all upside down and fucked up!!!!!!!!!  Now if they made Asheron's Call 3: Asheron's Rebirth then I'd be all over that....I do believe that MS was outa the picture 1-2yrs before the shit pile that was Asheron's Call 2....I played Asheron's Call from Dec'99(Shadow Wars)-June'05

Its hard to take a guy serious when his name is "SirBongsAlot" :)

Maybe when you tried out the game you were to stoned to enjoy it :)  There were many things that added up to the downfall to AC2 but that doesnt mean it was a bad game.  By the time they had fixed the issues people wouldnt give it a chance.

Ac2 definatly suffered from what other new games on the market today have suffered (Vanguard, AoC, etc) where they released to early and end up paying for it in the long run.  But that doesnt mean any of those games are not fun in there own way.

To each their own right ?

Bring back a true AC sequel and I would play it and pay to play it.   AC2 was a not what we were promised.   AC though...now that was an awesome game in its day and Turbine could make a ton of money if they made a true sequel to AC.   AC was skill  based and we had total freedom on how we created our characters and it was semi-twitch.   You could dodge arrows and war spells!  Game just rocked!

Originally posted by Teala

Bring back a true AC sequel and I would play it and pay to play it.   AC2 was a not what we were promised.   AC though...now that was an awesome game in its day and Turbine could make a ton of money if they made a true sequel to AC.   AC was skill  based and we had total freedom on how we created our characters and it was semi-twitch.   You could dodge arrows and war spells!  Game just rocked!

So do you think they actually made AC2 to appeal to all their AC1 players?  Why would they you do that?

First you do not want to go and make a game that is going to appeal to players that are already playing and paying to play your original game.  Whats the point in that?  Player A that is already paying for AC1 will now just switch to AC2 if it was just a clone of AC1 with better graphics and features.  What then have they accomplished?

No I believe AC2 did the right thing in trying to make it the same yet very different.  Obviously it failed for some other reason but I would disagree with you if you are saying they should have just made a AC1 but better.