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  Ozarumon

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OP  7/08/09 9:03:41 PM#1

when your extremely thirsty  but someone put pee in the other 1%.

  cukimunga

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Ah I'm drunk and I'm in the street like a vagabond.

7/08/09 9:11:22 PM#2

But can you taste that 1% pee though?

  Swanea

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7/08/09 9:13:00 PM#3

Another time to almost stay speechless.

 

Really? I mean really?

  Nymandus

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7/08/09 9:13:07 PM#4
Originally posted by cukimunga

But can you taste that 1% pee though?

 

LOL..you are a definately 99% full kinda person cukimunga...nice.

  Ozarumon

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OP  7/08/09 9:13:53 PM#5
Originally posted by cukimunga

But can you taste that 1% pee though?

 

Just experiemented and yes

  M1sf1t

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7/08/09 9:45:22 PM#6

Good thing pee is sterile. :P

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  vinzone

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7/08/09 9:48:50 PM#7
Originally posted by cukimunga

But can you taste that 1% pee though?

 

Pee is pretty potent I'm sure you would get a bad taste in your mouth from that 1% especially because its in water.

  templarga

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7/08/09 9:58:04 PM#8

Mythic isn't involved in TOR.

Mythic and Bioware have been organizationally arranged under the same MMO branch of EA. The head of said branch is a Bioware employee.

 

EDIT: I just saw the story on the main page....next time, please link the story you are referring too, just for the sake of ease.

I am not that concerned about Mythic working on TOR or helping Bioware or whatever they are doing. Mythic is a great company and they are being led by one of the original devs of DAOC, the greatest MMO ever (in my opinion). Just because WAR has issues, you cannot condemn the whole company.

  Ihmotepp

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7/08/09 10:02:58 PM#9

What's the "pee" in TOR in this analogy?

 What features is Mythic supposedly adding that equal pee?

  Kordesh

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7/08/09 10:08:22 PM#10


Originally posted by templarga

Mythic isn't involved in TOR.
Mythic and Bioware have been organizationally arranged under the same MMO branch of EA. The head of said branch is a Bioware employee.
I have yet to see anything where it says Mythic is working on the game in any capacity.



 
This. Mythic and Bioware haven't merged. As EA chisels them into further corrupted and bastardized forms, they figured they could take some scraps from the two and mold them together to form a third abomination that will surely produce some yet unnamed horror that will under deliver and then try to sell back the rest of the features via DLC/Marketplace

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  User Deleted
7/08/09 10:42:48 PM#11


Originally posted by Ozarumon
when your extremely thirsty  but someone put pee in the other 1%.

Im a little bit offended here because what mmo has Bioware made?
Yet your knocking Mythic who has produced MMOs.

Mythic pulled out one great mmo and one mmo that should of been DAOC 2 but was sadly lacking. Warhammer is not a terrible game. I know plenty of people who are playing and having a blast. Its not my cup of tea, but at least its a cup.

Again I ask WHAT FKING MMO HAS BIOWARE MADE?
They are at best unproven.

Oh but theyve made games. Thats nice. Thats like Saturn trying there hand in top fuel dragster building..
"OMG SATURN IS GOING TO MAKE THE FASTEST DRAGSTER YOUVE EVER SEEN".
voice of reason "How many dragsters has Saturn built?"
"NONE BUT IT WILL BE AWESOME".
"So I heard John Force(Mythic) is helping you all make your new dragster?"
"Yeah I hope he doesnt ruin it!!"

/sigh

  Axeion

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7/08/09 11:23:21 PM#12
Originally posted by logangregor

 


Originally posted by Ozarumon
when your extremely thirsty  but someone put pee in the other 1%.

 

Im a little bit offended here because what mmo has Bioware made?
Yet your knocking Mythic who has produced MMOs.

Mythic pulled out one great mmo and one mmo that should of been DAOC 2 but was sadly lacking. Warhammer is not a terrible game. I know plenty of people who are playing and having a blast. Its not my cup of tea, but at least its a cup.

Again I ask WHAT FKING MMO HAS BIOWARE MADE?
They are at best unproven.

Oh but theyve made games. Thats nice. Thats like Saturn trying there hand in top fuel dragster building..
"OMG SATURN IS GOING TO MAKE THE FASTEST DRAGSTER YOUVE EVER SEEN".
voice of reason "How many dragsters has Saturn built?"
"NONE BUT IT WILL BE AWESOME".
"So I heard John Force(Mythic) is helping you all make your new dragster?"
"Yeah I hope he doesnt ruin it!!"

/sigh


 

if half the people who just read that an understood the drag racing compariosn , or even understoood who john force is id be shocked. totaly nail on the head tho logangregor that was dead on./agree

warhammer online was not bad i quit becuase of lag problems that may have been my old vid cards .playing age of conan as my side game an eq as main now .but would not mind a bit to play warhammer again  later on.

mythic is not a bad company an warhammer is not a bad mmo.i am looking forward to swtor but if any thing the op has just feel for the fickel fanboy wave bioware perfect an mythic is not.

makeing a rpg is not the same as a mmorpg

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  Kaelaan21

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7/08/09 11:43:46 PM#13
Originally posted by Axeion
Originally posted by logangregor

 


Originally posted by Ozarumon
when your extremely thirsty  but someone put pee in the other 1%.

 

Im a little bit offended here because what mmo has Bioware made?
Yet your knocking Mythic who has produced MMOs.

Mythic pulled out one great mmo and one mmo that should of been DAOC 2 but was sadly lacking. Warhammer is not a terrible game. I know plenty of people who are playing and having a blast. Its not my cup of tea, but at least its a cup.

Again I ask WHAT FKING MMO HAS BIOWARE MADE?
They are at best unproven.

Oh but theyve made games. Thats nice. Thats like Saturn trying there hand in top fuel dragster building..
"OMG SATURN IS GOING TO MAKE THE FASTEST DRAGSTER YOUVE EVER SEEN".
voice of reason "How many dragsters has Saturn built?"
"NONE BUT IT WILL BE AWESOME".
"So I heard John Force(Mythic) is helping you all make your new dragster?"
"Yeah I hope he doesnt ruin it!!"

/sigh


 

if half the people who just read that an understood the drag racing compariosn , or even understoood who john force is id be shocked. totaly nail on the head tho logangregor that was dead on./agree

warhammer online was not bad i quit becuase of lag problems that may have been my old vid cards .playing age of conan as my side game an eq as main now .but would not mind a bit to play warhammer again  later on.

mythic is not a bad company an warhammer is not a bad mmo.i am looking forward to swtor but if any thing the op has just feel for the fickel fanboy wave bioware perfect an mythic is not.

makeing a rpg is not the same as a mmorpg


 

Not only did I get the comparison, I completely agree. I -LOVE- BioWare's RPG games, ... BUT... I believe that taking too many elements of their most popular games would end up creating a poor MMO. If I want a complete story driven game, I would end up playing a single player non-MMO. There is so much more that can be done. In the MMO, I am looking more for group cooperation, group competition, achievement of some form, and most importantly fun and value for the money I spend. These days where an MMO costs just as much as a normal single player game AND has a sub attached, it needs to be great and it needs to be different.

I think that a lot of people will be dissappointed with BioWare's MMO.

One thing that I give Mythic a lot of credit for is that 5 years after the game was released, not only did they replace the entire game engine, but they replaced all of the graphic textures as well. The only other main stream MMO that I know of to do this with their entire game was EVE Online. Even though I don't agree with everything they have done over the years, this does show that they do care about their product and take pride in their work.

  Quirhid

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7/09/09 2:51:22 AM#14

Bioware is known to make great games. Even if it's not an MMO by someone's definition, it will still be a great game and I will enjoy it nevertheless. You see: I don't care if its not an MMO as long as its good.

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  Shannia

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7/09/09 3:04:50 AM#15

At least we can begin to see thru the RPG/MMO Group thinking now.

My guess is, BioWare was stuck with issues in SW:TOR and was leaning on Mark Jacobs and company at Mythic for help.  Mark and company was dealing with their own issues at Mythic trying to get a handle on WAR.  BioWare didn't like the lack of help from Mythic so went up the chain.  Mark told EA to tell BioWare to go hire their own experts he was having enough issues.  EA said, screw that... we'll cut our losses and run with WAR and send BioWare what ever resources/help that they needed to attempt to ensure success woth SW:TOR.  Next thing you, Mark Jacobs is on a two month vacation burning all his leave and selling all his stock and stock options before getting the axe from Mythic, the company he helped form. 

Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  arcdevil

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You seem like a nice guy. I'll kill you last.

7/09/09 3:24:54 AM#16
Originally posted by logangregor

 


Originally posted by Ozarumon
when your extremely thirsty  but someone put pee in the other 1%.

 

Im a little bit offended here because what mmo has Bioware made?
Yet your knocking Mythic who has produced MMOs.

Mythic pulled out one great mmo and one mmo that should of been DAOC 2 but was sadly lacking. Warhammer is not a terrible game. I know plenty of people who are playing and having a blast. Its not my cup of tea, but at least its a cup.

Again I ask WHAT FKING MMO HAS BIOWARE MADE?
They are at best unproven.

Oh but theyve made games. Thats nice. Thats like Saturn trying there hand in top fuel dragster building..
"OMG SATURN IS GOING TO MAKE THE FASTEST DRAGSTER YOUVE EVER SEEN".
voice of reason "How many dragsters has Saturn built?"
"NONE BUT IT WILL BE AWESOME".
"So I heard John Force(Mythic) is helping you all make your new dragster?"
"Yeah I hope he doesnt ruin it!!"

/sigh

BioWare has made tons of great (offline) games

 

What has Mythic made? They have always been a one-trick-pony, living off the reputation earned with DAOC.

With WAR they have proved DAOC was just dumb luck, they know jack shit of making MMOs, communicating with the playerbase, and RvR in general. They got a success, they killed it with their incompetence, and they were absolutly uncapable to repeat the success again...just the sheer failure

 

DAOC was once an amazing game, that they slowly killed with horrible updates and expansions till TOA became the last nail on the coffin, and their inability to balance their own classes has become provervial within the industry

 

WAR is DAOC 2, in the sense they repeated every single mistake they did with DAOC, just since this time they had tons of cash toblow, the process of corruption and degradation was 100x faster

 

Mythic has the inverse Midas touch. everything they touch become crap

  Xiaoki

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7/09/09 3:33:57 AM#17


Originally posted by templarga
I am not that concerned about Mythic working on TOR or helping Bioware or whatever they are doing. Mythic is a great company and they are being led by one of the original devs of DAOC, the greatest MMO ever (in my opinion). Just because WAR has issues, you cannot condemn the whole company.

Can we condemn the whole company when the only MMO they did right was the original DAoC back in 2001?
Can we condemn the whole company when they ruined DAoC beyond repair?
Can we condemn the whole company when their second MMO, Warhammer Online, turned out worse than the wreck they left DAoC in?

Face it people, DAoC was a freshman fluke.
Mythic is a one hit wonder.
Mythic is a has-been company that can only poison Bioware.

  jinxit

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7/09/09 3:46:44 AM#18

I'm sorry but mythic being involved with KOTOR has been on the cards for a good while now, even a press statement Bioware made a while back pointed to mythic's involvement with the mention of several features that appear in DAOC and WAR including public quests and realm vs realm combat. I don't see the problem here though, Mythics public quest system and realm vs realm are 2 of the best ideas to come into mmo's of late and if bioware want those features in there game....well good on them.

  Quirhid

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7/09/09 3:51:37 AM#19
Originally posted by arcdevil

With WAR they have proved DAOC was just dumb luck


 

I think this is quite accurate among some of the MMO developers. More luck than skill. The saying: "Better be lucky than good" may work in poker but not here.

I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  John.A.Zoid

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7/09/09 4:35:19 AM#20

Yup the other 1% is chlorine if you're talking about tap.

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