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Xasapis

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/12/07
Posts: 2612

7/08/09 4:05:01 AM#76

They added the LMB camera rotation around your character? That's good news.

heartless

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Joined: 1/05/04
Posts: 2146

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

7/08/09 4:08:53 AM#77
Originally posted by Ephimero
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Ephimero
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by nailszz6
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by nailszz6

I think of it this way when it comes to Aion:

Aion was designed  for a Korean (eastern) audience, not you,  you are being allowed to play Aion out of the kindness of Plaync's heart. 

You already have the perfect MMO for you, stay with that, and don't complain about our MMO.

 

NCSoft is spending millions of dollars converting "your MMO" to "our MMO" not out of the kindness of their heart but because they want our money. Besides that, I seem to remember that "our MMO" is pretty popular in "your part" of the world.

The person in question is not complaining, he is providing his review. If you disagree with his points, address them. Otherwise, there is no reason for being nasty.


 

I'd believe you if the Aion on the Korean servers was different from the Aion I'm seeing in beta.  IT'S THE SAME GAME!!  They haven't changed anything.  The only things they are adding is voice overs and translation tweaks.  Everything else is server side tweaks to prep for launch.

That's what I meant. They are spending millions of dollars and a year or so to poorly translate some quest text in order to make it more suitable for the western market.

Or at least that's what they are claiming. Personally, I didn't notice any big differences between that unofficial English patch and the latest translation. I think that they are just bullshitting and hyping up their game and the fanboys are eating it up.

 

After 2 months bashing this game daily on these forums you're still playing it to know about the latest translation?

Impressive.

Just because I have some negative things to say about it, doesn't mean I don't like it. Rather, I choose a more realistic approach--I like the game but realize that it has problems.

Very often, the problem with zealous fans is that they interpret any negative comment about their game as bashing. It's not.

 

I do consider myself as an Aion fan, I do enjoy this game and the huge ammount of possibilities it offers for guilds like mine, I would not call myself zealous though, I only respond to vague posts, don't tell me aion sucks, tell me why it sucks, then we might have a discussion going.

The problem is that every time I tell you what I consider to be a problem, you and others automatically accuse me of trolling and of being a hater, something that you implied in an earlier post.

So you tell me, why should I bother if anything ever remotely negative is being met with hostility and downright hatred?

Ephimero

Hard Core Member

Joined: 10/18/06
Posts: 1839

7/08/09 4:25:44 AM#78
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Ephimero
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Ephimero
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by nailszz6
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by nailszz6

I think of it this way when it comes to Aion:

Aion was designed  for a Korean (eastern) audience, not you,  you are being allowed to play Aion out of the kindness of Plaync's heart. 

You already have the perfect MMO for you, stay with that, and don't complain about our MMO.

 

NCSoft is spending millions of dollars converting "your MMO" to "our MMO" not out of the kindness of their heart but because they want our money. Besides that, I seem to remember that "our MMO" is pretty popular in "your part" of the world.

The person in question is not complaining, he is providing his review. If you disagree with his points, address them. Otherwise, there is no reason for being nasty.


 

I'd believe you if the Aion on the Korean servers was different from the Aion I'm seeing in beta.  IT'S THE SAME GAME!!  They haven't changed anything.  The only things they are adding is voice overs and translation tweaks.  Everything else is server side tweaks to prep for launch.

That's what I meant. They are spending millions of dollars and a year or so to poorly translate some quest text in order to make it more suitable for the western market.

Or at least that's what they are claiming. Personally, I didn't notice any big differences between that unofficial English patch and the latest translation. I think that they are just bullshitting and hyping up their game and the fanboys are eating it up.

 

After 2 months bashing this game daily on these forums you're still playing it to know about the latest translation?

Impressive.

Just because I have some negative things to say about it, doesn't mean I don't like it. Rather, I choose a more realistic approach--I like the game but realize that it has problems.

Very often, the problem with zealous fans is that they interpret any negative comment about their game as bashing. It's not.

 

I do consider myself as an Aion fan, I do enjoy this game and the huge ammount of possibilities it offers for guilds like mine, I would not call myself zealous though, I only respond to vague posts, don't tell me aion sucks, tell me why it sucks, then we might have a discussion going.

The problem is that every time I tell you what I consider to be a problem, you and others automatically accuse me of trolling and of being a hater, something that you implied in an earlier post.

So you tell me, why should I bother if anything ever remotely negative is being met with hostility and downright hatred?

 

Don't say you and others unless you can provide an example.

 

Hatred? lol, don't play the victim dude, nobody is forcing you to be exposed to such a hard enviroment as the one you're describing.

carrarn

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Joined: 2/17/09
Posts: 37

7/08/09 5:15:09 AM#79

[quote][Since we don't care to group up with anyone except ourselves unless we're running instances or similar, we thought this was a bit retarded. [/quote]

 

So i couldnt get myself to read all the replys but i know this feeling alot so i wanted to share my opinion with you [OP]. I think the problem is you shouldnt be playing some huge MMO  but probally some multiplayer game.

Because for some reaspon all mmo's are grinds - everything is about the same with a slight variation and there is atm not a big chance for change. Its mostly - kill mobs for xp or skill so you increase your capabilities or do some quests that usually represent you killing mobs on order either because its kill x of x or because some npc lost his pet doggie while wandering around a dragon invested cave and he wants you to get it for him, meaning offcourse you have to kill everything in the cave before you find the mut..  now i know theres people out there saying, OW! but hey dude theres x game that does x different - or even smarter guys that say ow but what do you expect its a game-type about progression where you start somewhere and end somewhere and do  stuff in the middle...  i agree this is both true.. but im still baffeled at the lack of inovation and good ideas. Guild wars gave a small example on how 1 miniscule part of the gameplay could be changed by saying.. hey! why dont we let people level to max of 20 , make it be lvl to 20 ina  few days then allllll the content after that is for your lvl 20.. so.. that was new. Theres however a ton more things that could be varied to try something new.

Now there i go again ranting about something not even close to on the subject at hand, but still - i wanna throw some air out! :P

[edit after 20minutes] ok n/m i was typing and typing and all of a sudden it just didnt seem good to post it here, il just make a thread somewhere else and put it in :P


markoraos

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Joined: 10/06/05
Posts: 1615

My dog ate your homework.

7/08/09 7:54:44 AM#80

So far Aion looks great to me.

The only real gripe that I have is that I'll have to PvE to 25 before I get the chance to PvP. From that point on it sounds like a dream, especially with XP from PvP they introduced recently.

But that's easily fixable I suppose... Just put 3 or so instanced BGs for levels 1-25 and I'll be a happy puppy. Nothing annoys me more than having to do the same old boring quests and "storylines" (meh) for each alt... But I guess WAR spoiled me in that respect - create a char, press that scenario button 1 sec after logging into the world and off you go. I could never EVER go back to the "PvE so you can PvP" crap again, but I'll make an exception for Aion.

/oh I just learned about the Colliseum. Cool. If there are several versions of it and you can advance xp there I AM a happy puppy.

markoraos

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/06/05
Posts: 1615

My dog ate your homework.

7/08/09 8:02:58 AM#81
Originally posted by Shol

 

Just stand there, and press the exact same sequence of hotkeys every single fight. Repetitive is an understatement.

Dont think NCSoft claimed to invent some new revolutionary combatsystem for the game. You get the usual thing + some flying.

 

 

Lemme just elaborate on this.

The guy being quoted in the above quote is fulla crap, obviously.

Or completely ignorant and imperceptive? Whatever... but he's presenting himself as some kind of authority with actual experience.

In Aion if you move forward you get +20% damage bonus, if you move back you get a bonus to block and sidestep gives you a dodge bonus. Jumping while attacking gives you a combo of buffs/debuffs. Additionally there's loads of bonuses to be gained in positional attacks and not only for the rogue type classes.

What is wrong with this site? Who are those people posting here ffs?

Xasapis

Hard Core Member

Joined: 1/12/07
Posts: 2612

7/08/09 8:04:34 AM#82

It's part of the pre-release "buzz" (hehe)

Vhayne

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Joined: 5/19/04
Posts: 346

 
7/08/09 11:28:41 AM#83
Originally posted by markoraos
Originally posted by Shol

 

Just stand there, and press the exact same sequence of hotkeys every single fight. Repetitive is an understatement.

Dont think NCSoft claimed to invent some new revolutionary combatsystem for the game. You get the usual thing + some flying.

 

 

Lemme just elaborate on this.

The guy being quoted in the above quote is fulla crap, obviously.

Or completely ignorant and imperceptive? Whatever... but he's presenting himself as some kind of authority with actual experience.

In Aion if you move forward you get +20% damage bonus, if you move back you get a bonus to block and sidestep gives you a dodge bonus. Jumping while attacking gives you a combo of buffs/debuffs. Additionally there's loads of bonuses to be gained in positional attacks and not only for the rogue type classes.

What is wrong with this site? Who are those people posting here ffs?


 

Whoa whoa whoa!  What is this about moving backward and forward, etc?  That's something I haven't heard before. 

 

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Posts: 2225

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7/08/09 11:33:40 AM#84
Originally posted by markoraos
Originally posted by Shol

 

Just stand there, and press the exact same sequence of hotkeys every single fight. Repetitive is an understatement.

Dont think NCSoft claimed to invent some new revolutionary combatsystem for the game. You get the usual thing + some flying.

 

 

Lemme just elaborate on this.

The guy being quoted in the above quote is fulla crap, obviously.

Or completely ignorant and imperceptive? Whatever... but he's presenting himself as some kind of authority with actual experience.

In Aion if you move forward you get +20% damage bonus, if you move back you get a bonus to block and sidestep gives you a dodge bonus. Jumping while attacking gives you a combo of buffs/debuffs. Additionally there's loads of bonuses to be gained in positional attacks and not only for the rogue type classes.

What is wrong with this site? Who are those people posting here ffs?

 

  Hah... sounds like they were inspired by a certain ....www.ageofconan.com

This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.

Palebane

Elite Member

Joined: 10/18/04
Posts: 867

7/08/09 11:43:44 AM#85
Originally posted by Shol

Its always level > gear > playerskill

Yep, that needs to change if you want good balanced PvP. Most people just like to show off their bling though.

 

Bureyku

Novice Member

Joined: 1/05/09
Posts: 421

7/08/09 11:47:44 AM#86

Aion is much more skill based from what we've heard from level 50's than most MMO's.  There is the fast paced combat, the moving bonuses for forward/back/strafe, the flight time management, etc, etc.  If you read through kilkil's post you will see some of why this game seems to be much more skill based than other MMO's.  Hell their group of 6 defeated a full force of 24 people.  That says something.

lornphoenix

Novice Member

Joined: 11/16/05
Posts: 615

7/08/09 11:48:42 AM#87
Originally posted by Vhayne
Originally posted by markoraos
Originally posted by Shol

 

Just stand there, and press the exact same sequence of hotkeys every single fight. Repetitive is an understatement.

Dont think NCSoft claimed to invent some new revolutionary combatsystem for the game. You get the usual thing + some flying.

 

 

Lemme just elaborate on this.

The guy being quoted in the above quote is fulla crap, obviously.

Or completely ignorant and imperceptive? Whatever... but he's presenting himself as some kind of authority with actual experience.

In Aion if you move forward you get +20% damage bonus, if you move back you get a bonus to block and sidestep gives you a dodge bonus. Jumping while attacking gives you a combo of buffs/debuffs. Additionally there's loads of bonuses to be gained in positional attacks and not only for the rogue type classes.

What is wrong with this site? Who are those people posting here ffs?


 

Whoa whoa whoa!  What is this about moving backward and forward, etc?  That's something I haven't heard before. 

 

Really I thought everybody had heard about this by this point.

Yes you get a bonus in damage moving foward, a bonus to defense moving backward, and a bonus to dodge moving sideways.

 

Valentina

Hard Core Member

Joined: 5/28/06
Posts: 855

They told me I'd never survive, but survive was my middle name.

7/08/09 11:50:44 AM#88

Wait until the game is launched to judge it, we're missing features in the beta test. It is a good game, albeit is it like WoW in alot of ways but it takes other mechanics and systems and incorporates them into the game the right way.  Honestly though innovation is scarce in MMO's, and the next big innovative MMO will be Star Wars. Aion still is a good game and worth playing over the next few years. The things NCsoft does for Aion is hands down costing them alot of money and effort to make a good game. Weather it be for money, or because they probably care about their game and want people to like it...Probably both.

 

But they did make an effort to incorporate story, modern mechanics, and character development in ways other MMO's do not, even World of Warcraft.

 

Aion is *not* Point n' Click, it's WASD, but you can choose to PNC, although it becomes pointless after a certain point.

Playing: Age of Conan, Aion: Tower of Eternity.


Waiting For: Guild Wars 2, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer

bleyzwun

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/29/05
Posts: 671

7/08/09 1:35:50 PM#89
Originally posted by Nazradin
Originally posted by stringboi
Originally posted by Palebane
Originally posted by Vhayne

 

 I'm wearing the best armor and weapons available, and seriously, I can't tell a difference in wearing basic lower level gear. Sure I might survive a tiny bit longer or kill a tiny bit faster, but it's beginning to feel like AoC and WAR in this aspect. Neither games gave much emphasis on "gear power", and it made the progressive loot rewards seem lackluster. 
 


 

This is actually encouraging news to me. I worry though that it makes a bigger difference at higher levels, like most games.

 

The little changes in stats you see in this games gear mean a lot more than the +2500 armor you'd see in other games like WoW.  To the newer players not used to this, it might seem like very little difference seeing only +4 to a weapon, +14 to magic boost or adding +6 evasion....why overcomplicate going into quadruple digits to feel powerful.  I can tell a difference in a  full set of regular store bought item...and the green player crafted items. 


 

Thats a funny statement when you look at the currency system in the game which could easily be divided buy a factor or 100 or even 1000

 

Yeah, the currency is pretty annoying.  I'm sure it has to do with S. Korean (and most country's) currency having many digits compared to the dollar. 

sidfu

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/19/05
Posts: 72

the 2 games that the companies ruined that ive played are star wars and mabagoni and mobagoni

7/08/09 3:55:37 PM#90
Originally posted by Chimps

You can't be serious about expecting Aion to be something new. This game is WoW clone with wings and amazing graphics.

I'm no WoW fan i hate WoW completely but in my opinion Aion is WoW clone with upgraded graphics and wings.

Why is it a WoW clone? Endless grinding, Point and Click gameplay like any asian mmos out there, repetitive quests and ofcourse quests will end at some lvl and you are forced to grind a lvl to get new quest.

I enjoyed the game only cause of the graphics and wing thing other than that it's useless but i got bored after 1 week.

So my tip for you is to move too Mortal Online a fps gameplay with unreal 3 engine graphics meaning new graphics to me the graphics in that game look almost realisitc and much better than Aion. Anyways if you dont like point and click games your only offer is and note that all these games use unreal engine which means no point and click gameplay but amazing graphics and use mouse to do primary attak secondary attack so its fast paced gameplay finally!

Wait for Mortal Online to come out which comes out 13th-14th july i dont know but pre-order opens 13th july and appairently anybody who pre-orders the game will get free beta access and the game is p2p but totally worth it.

Wait for blade & soul to come out and that game is going to be f2p but most likely not come to us in years.

Wait for tera online which will be p2p comes out in a few years.

Wait for C9 which will be f2p comes out in a few years

Wait for dragon nest which will be f2p comes out in a few years.

 

 

 

your whole info is wrong wow is a clone of eq and other mmo. aion was not trumphed as being a wow killer/inovatiave what makes it better than wow its not dumbed down. people need to break from there wow is the uber mmo just cause its got 11million people who dont like  a challenge syndrome and playsomething where u have to think alaas fallen earth. aion is good ill sub to it but mostly due to fact the game is just good basic fun. even in the closed beta very few bugs i ran into and most them was more of missing updates they haddent put in yet.

so for all those who say they hate aion cause its like wow then why u playing wow? hell why are u playing mmo in first place? ask yourself that and think also get some facts straight before u going posting stuff. and c9 will be a p2p game just for the reason the game engine and develeement costs are up on par with games like aion.

Jetrpg

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/22/06
Posts: 1314

7/08/09 8:18:42 PM#91

Dude the op is obviously lieing and NEVER PLAYED THE GAME.

Why do i know this, easy, becuase he didn't say aion is the god game, god made it himself, he didn't say he had issues with wettish pants like five times in 3 minute after first logging in.

This is obviously a a troll , made a mmorpg account and posted 311 times just to troll on aion, obviously.

Ill tell you my reasoning, i know becuase i knowz it.

/sarcasumz off

Ok why post this because i been read post both i like and dislike aion and in everyone of them were someone says i don't like aion, there like 500 aion mafia posters who type junk and then type /sarcasums off

So i figure why not just do it to all the posts even the positive and middle line ones after all they hold about as much weight.

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