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Originally posted by Dracus

Nice evasion there, but there is more to it that you lead on.  From your posting, the majority of the masses makes an idea right, which is not the case.
You also show your bias and go to extremes as with you saying from above "only a couple of thousand bored folks went."  That reduces your creditable and weakens your original posting, of which is clouded by the tangents.  There were more than  just a couple of thousand. 
Try again.

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The question (or LACK of one) was not evaded. But it's really simple human nature really. People go to things they feel are worthwhile, important and/or fun when they have a choice.

Teabagger rallies were held in April... 2,000 people about each rally if that. Now they are held on the biggest day for national INDEPENDENCE, which is supposed to be what their message is all about, right? And .. 2,000 people barely show up in perfect weeather. This burger is burnt.

This movement is the same one put on by the usual conspiracy people every year but this time, they got a boost by Fox News and every nutbag in the country decided to latch on. Take away that fringe like Fox did this time, and you see the true numbers. It's not like these people didn't know teabagger parties were going to be held.

July 4.. USA... Freedom... Independence. Couldn't have been tattooed on their foreheads to be any clearer when to show up. But they'd rather BBQ.

Obama's inaugaration was on a day when it was as cold as a witch's nipple ring, and almost 2 million people showed up by CHOICE. I don't want to hear anymore excuses.

When Americans think there is something important to go to, we go to it. We don't cry later the weather was bad or I had to work or whatever.

Hell, even the Million Man March in Washington, D.C. had the National Park Service release its estimate: 400k

Teabaggers fail, lol.

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Originally posted by daeandor

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Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Where most of Americans live, 2,000 people is chicken feed. I'm just giving you the actual reality of numbers not trying to insult your quaint town.

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Most American's use 2000 people as chicken feed?

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Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

The question (or LACK of one) was not evaded. But it's really simple human nature really. People go to things they feel are worthwhile, important and/or fun when they have a choice.

 

 

Teabagger rallies were held in April... 2,000 people about each rally if that. Now they are held on the biggest day for national INDEPENDENCE, which is supposed to be what their message is all about, right? And .. 2,000 people barely show up in perfect weeather. This burger is burnt.
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Obama's inaugaration was on a day when it was as cold as a witch's nipple ring, and almost 2 million people showed up by CHOICE. I don't want to hear anymore excuses.
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Teabaggers fail, lol.

And you are correct when nearly two million people showed up for the inauguration, but choice alone is only part of the reason, media attention (and I dare say propaganda), plays the major part.

As for your bet of 2,000... seeing you're confident and sticking with it. 

I will play one card, to raise the bet to 35,000 attendees.

Your turn.

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Originally posted by Dracus

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Originally posted by popinjay

 
 

The question (or LACK of one) was not evaded. But it's really simple human nature really. People go to things they feel are worthwhile, important and/or fun when they have a choice.
 
 
Teabagger rallies were held in April... 2,000 people about each rally if that. Now they are held on the biggest day for national INDEPENDENCE, which is supposed to be what their message is all about, right? And .. 2,000 people barely show up in perfect weeather. This burger is burnt.
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Obama's inaugaration was on a day when it was as cold as a witch's nipple ring, and almost 2 million people showed up by CHOICE. I don't want to hear anymore excuses.
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Teabaggers fail, lol.

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And you are correct when nearly two million people showed up for the inauguration, but choice alone is only part of the reason, media attention (and I dare say propaganda), plays the major part.
As for your bet of 2,000... seeing you're confident and sticking with it. 

I will play one card, to raise the bet to 35,000 attendees.

Your turn.

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I'll tell you what.

I'll give you 50,000 because I'm that kind of generous guy.

1.8 million > 50,000.

And we are still having this conversation because... you're bored? Or is there a point?

Originally posted by popinjay

And we are still having this conversation because... you're bored? Or is there a point?

Because, One you are giving me more ground and Two, you want to wrap this up with you having the last line of text.

Which to me is similar to the polls of the job performance with both the Democratic controlled Administration and Congress.  Although I will give credit for Obama having a high performance number, even with the decline.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by Dracus

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Originally posted by popinjay

 

 
 

The question (or LACK of one) was not evaded. But it's really simple human nature really. People go to things they feel are worthwhile, important and/or fun when they have a choice.
 
 
Teabagger rallies were held in April... 2,000 people about each rally if that. Now they are held on the biggest day for national INDEPENDENCE, which is supposed to be what their message is all about, right? And .. 2,000 people barely show up in perfect weeather. This burger is burnt.
...
Obama's inaugaration was on a day when it was as cold as a witch's nipple ring, and almost 2 million people showed up by CHOICE. I don't want to hear anymore excuses.
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Teabaggers fail, lol.

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And you are correct when nearly two million people showed up for the inauguration, but choice alone is only part of the reason, media attention (and I dare say propaganda), plays the major part.
As for your bet of 2,000... seeing you're confident and sticking with it. 

 

I will play one card, to raise the bet to 35,000 attendees.

Your turn.

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I'll tell you what.

 

 

I'll give you 50,000 because I'm that kind of generous guy.

 

1.8 million > 50,000.

 

And we are still having this conversation because... you're bored? Or is there a point?

Oh, excuse me popinjay, I thought this was a forum discussion, not a "listen to and agree with popinjay or you don't matter thread".

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Originally posted by aeroplane22

Oh, excuse me popinjay, I thought this was a forum discussion, not a "listen to and agree with popinjay or you don't matter thread".

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No no, you misunderstand. It is a discussion forum. But what he was saying wasn't discussing anything.

A paltry few, mundane people attending a spritzer on the Fourth of July and calling it a rally is pretty sad. 35,000 people? 50,000 people across the country? This is the extent of the "outrage" against freedoms now from these folks? Only on NON-holidays I guess when they don't have better things to do. Better to keep it to weekday events in between American Idol and America's Got Talent.

That sounds just about like the typical N.I.M.B.Y. teabagger. They want change, but won't show up for it. They want freedom in Iraq, but won't sign up to go. They want this done and that done, but won't lift a finger, then are surprised when things turn out the way they do. Perhaps they were too stuffed to get off of the couch? Or maybe as Bill Maher suggested, they were too comfortable in their Shamwow Snuggies wraps and couldn't be bothered?

Either way, there is no way he or you can call those tired teabagger rallies a success. It was just a couple of thousand people playing dress up for the cameras and family scrapbooks for their later years.

Uh oh, this is interesting.  It appears as though the government's security agencies are starting to pay closer attention to these rallys.  What could this mean?  Is the government starting to consider these people dangerous?

FBI spied on tea party Americans

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by daeandor

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Originally posted by popinjay

 

 
 

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Where most of Americans live, 2,000 people is chicken feed. I'm just giving you the actual reality of numbers not trying to insult your quaint town.

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Most American's use 2000 people as chicken feed?

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I Actualy Got my life saved By one of these Posts ;p

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Originally posted by Zindaihas
Uh oh, this is interesting.  It appears as though the government's security agencies are starting to pay closer attention to these rallys.  What could this mean?  Is the government starting to consider these people dangerous?
FBI spied on tea party Americans

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I wouldn't worry about it. Those agents were probably the same kids who liked studying those insignificant ant farms as a kid. Their just curious.

Originally posted by popinjay

No no, you misunderstand. It is a discussion forum. But what he was saying wasn't discussing anything.

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According to your point of view.
Interesting now that you withdrawing from responding directly to me...
Anyhoot, I play down a card, just one card mind you, to counter your “couple of thousand” and yet you dismiss it and stick with your “couple of thousand.” You are correct though that there is nothing to discuss, that is when one choses to deny or not to accept points which counters his/her point.

Your “couple of thousand” was countered and so in order to protect your original objective, you bring up the mass events and claim that to be successes and anything else to be of failures. Now since this is a MMORPG site and to keep the thread in line to this site, I will use an analogy with games. By your examples and point of view with numbers, WoW is a success, while Eve-Online and Maid Marian are considered as failures.

You type like a Sith, passionate and absolute, which does weaken your cause. I could state those nearly two million Obama supporters in Washington DC believed all of their problems; such as dead-end flipping burger jobs, paying for mortgages and gasoline would be solved by Obama. But that is not true, the same goes for your absolute assumptions.

By the way, I am glad you brought up Bill Maher, from that statement of yours, did you refer to Bill Maher the person, or Bill Maher the entertainer? While the same person, just to let you in on something... what Bill Maher says or does during his “gig” (as he calls it) is not of the same viewpoints he actually believes in.

"Either way, there is no way he or you can call those tired teabagger rallies a success. It was just a couple of thousand people playing dress up for the cameras and family scrapbooks for their later years."
There you go again Joe, a couple of thousand.
What you should type out is and based by your forum persona's history of postings in this thread, “... there is no way he, you or anyone else can convince me of calling those tired teabagger rallies a success.”
And let us leave it at that, shall we?

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Uh oh, this is interesting.  It appears as though the government's security agencies are starting to pay closer attention to these rallys.  What could this mean?  Is the government starting to consider these people dangerous?

FBI spied on tea party Americans

I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers.

i don't see how anyone gets a kick out of poo poin people letting their concerns be heard.its been known that the few change the many.

polls broke down like this when we left the fabulous leadership of the that great oligarchy called england.

30% for the war

30% against the war

30% just didn't give a shit.

Yeah, teapartys have nothing to do with thr RNC.

Nope, not one single thing to do with FOX.

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Originally posted by frodus

 
I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers. 

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You pulled that from a blog where the blogger gave no reliable reference link to where he got that number. He pulled it from the place where he stores his Doritos.

Stop misinterpreting it.

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Originally posted by Dracus

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Originally posted by popinjay

No no, you misunderstand. It is a discussion forum. But what he was saying wasn't discussing anything.
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According to your point of view.
Interesting now that you withdrawing from responding directly to me...
Anyhoot, I play down a card, just one card mind you, to counter your “couple of thousand” and yet you dismiss it and stick with your “couple of thousand.” You are correct though that there is nothing to discuss, that is when one choses to deny or not to accept points which counters his/her point.
Your “couple of thousand” was countered and so in order to protect your original objective, you bring up the mass events and claim that to be successes and anything else to be of failures. Now since this is a MMORPG site and to keep the thread in line to this site, I will use an analogy with games. By your examples and point of view with numbers, WoW is a success, while Eve-Online and Maid Marian are considered as failures.
You type like a Sith, passionate and absolute, which does weaken your cause. I could state those nearly two million Obama supporters in Washington DC believed all of their problems; such as dead-end flipping burger jobs, paying for mortgages and gasoline would be solved by Obama. But that is not true, the same goes for your absolute assumptions.
By the way, I am glad you brought up Bill Maher, from that statement of yours, did you refer to Bill Maher the person, or Bill Maher the entertainer? While the same person, just to let you in on something... what Bill Maher says or does during his “gig” (as he calls it) is not of the same viewpoints he actually believes in.
"Either way, there is no way he or you can call those tired teabagger rallies a success. It was just a couple of thousand people playing dress up for the cameras and family scrapbooks for their later years."
There you go again Joe, a couple of thousand.
What you should type out is and based by your forum persona's history of postings in this thread, “... there is no way he, you or anyone else can convince me of calling those tired teabagger rallies a success.”
And let us leave it at that, shall we?
 

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1.8 million went to see Obama. Billions more watched on television here and around the world.

35,000 played "dress-up and yell" at the Post Office on the Fourth of July.

Americans are a truly wise people.

This is possibly the most off-topic thread ever in the off-topic.

Originally posted by Godliest

This is possibly the most off-topic thread ever in the off-topic.

Naa Not even Close... thi I think its the first time that the OP has derailed it tho....

Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by frodus

 

 
I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers. 

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You pulled that from a blog where the blogger gave no reliable reference link to where he got that number. He pulled it from the place where he stores his Doritos.

 

 

Stop misinterpreting it.

And I suggest you stop dismissing points out of hand that go against your point of view.

The source was from Tea Party Organizer.  Come on now, you worked with newspapers or so you have claimed.  Do the research to prove or disapprove, the revolutionary super information highway, the deconstructor of newspapers is right at your fingertips.

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

1.8 million went to see Obama. Billions more watched on television here and around the world.

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BILLIONS!

Now you're onto Billions!

What does the scope of billions of people around the world for a televised event have to do with domestic taxation and budget policies?

That is wonderful and great in which so many people tuned in for such an event, but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.  Your point is that the Tea Party Movement is Dead, that no one will attend the past rallies. 

Your point has been countered.

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Originally posted by Dracus

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Originally posted by popinjay

 

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Originally posted by frodus
 
 
I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers. 

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You pulled that from a blog where the blogger gave no reliable reference link to where he got that number. He pulled it from the place where he stores his Doritos.
 
 
Stop misinterpreting it.

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And I suggest you stop dismissing points out of hand that go against your point of view.

The source was from Tea Party Organizer.  Come on now, you worked with newspapers or so you have claimed.  Do the research to prove or disapprove, the revolutionary super information highway, the deconstructor of newspapers is right at your fingertips.

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The numbers aren't verified. It's his guess vs any other citizen's guess.

It's obvious it's no where near 750k lol.

You must have me confused with someone else. I don't work for any newspaper. I think you misread something again. The teaparties are pretty much dead, and no one of any significance attends them. Just bored folks looking for something to pass the time basically.

Hmm.. I'll change it to a billion that watched Obama worldwide. That's pretty much how excited everyone was when he was elected. I can imagine how upsetting that must be for you, but its pretty much in the history books now, while teabaggers are just plain history.

Nearly 37.8 million Americans watching at home viewed President Barack Obama’s oath of office and inaugural speech between the hours of 10:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. ET on January 20, 2009.  This is the most viewed inauguration since the record of 41.8 million viewers who watched Ronald Reagan’s 1981 inauguration.

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/media_entertainment/nearly-378-million-watch-president-obamas-oath-and-speech/

I stand corrected, I mistook a quote and so I apologise for the newspaper bit.

For verification of numbers, the same can be said of Obama's Inaurgation as multiple sources ranged it from 1.2 to 1.8 million with no confirmation of 1.8 million.  It is assumed to be correct.

The 1 Billion is still too high, closer to being under 200,000 million including streaming webvideo would be more correct (world viewership).  And no this does not make me upset as it is great to see that the world has an interest with who our leader is.  But again this is outside of the scope of domestic policies.

Now that you have accepted my 35,000; I will place down another card of 25,000 to rise the bet to 60,000, which does exceed your 50,000 assumption.  Let me remind you, this is only of two cards I am putting in so far, I still have hundreds of cards left in my hand.

So in summary:
Started at 0
Raise to 2,000
Raise to 35,000
Raise to 50,000
Raise to 60,000