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  Dracus

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7/07/09 1:25:10 PM#61
Originally posted by popinjay


No no, you misunderstand. It is a discussion forum. But what he was saying wasn't discussing anything.

...

According to your point of view.
Interesting now that you withdrawing from responding directly to me...
Anyhoot, I play down a card, just one card mind you, to counter your “couple of thousand” and yet you dismiss it and stick with your “couple of thousand.” You are correct though that there is nothing to discuss, that is when one choses to deny or not to accept points which counters his/her point.

Your “couple of thousand” was countered and so in order to protect your original objective, you bring up the mass events and claim that to be successes and anything else to be of failures. Now since this is a MMORPG site and to keep the thread in line to this site, I will use an analogy with games. By your examples and point of view with numbers, WoW is a success, while Eve-Online and Maid Marian are considered as failures.

You type like a Sith, passionate and absolute, which does weaken your cause. I could state those nearly two million Obama supporters in Washington DC believed all of their problems; such as dead-end flipping burger jobs, paying for mortgages and gasoline would be solved by Obama. But that is not true, the same goes for your absolute assumptions.

By the way, I am glad you brought up Bill Maher, from that statement of yours, did you refer to Bill Maher the person, or Bill Maher the entertainer? While the same person, just to let you in on something... what Bill Maher says or does during his “gig” (as he calls it) is not of the same viewpoints he actually believes in.

"Either way, there is no way he or you can call those tired teabagger rallies a success. It was just a couple of thousand people playing dress up for the cameras and family scrapbooks for their later years."
There you go again Joe, a couple of thousand.
What you should type out is and based by your forum persona's history of postings in this thread, “... there is no way he, you or anyone else can convince me of calling those tired teabagger rallies a success.
And let us leave it at that, shall we?

 

And that is why...

Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  frodus

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7/07/09 1:41:50 PM#62
Originally posted by Zindaihas

Uh oh, this is interesting.  It appears as though the government's security agencies are starting to pay closer attention to these rallys.  What could this mean?  Is the government starting to consider these people dangerous?

FBI spied on tea party Americans


 

I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers.

i don't see how anyone gets a kick out of poo poin people letting their concerns be heard.its been known that the few change the many.

polls broke down like this when we left the fabulous leadership of the that great oligarchy called england.

30% for the war

30% against the war

30% just didn't give a shit.

 

Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.

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7/07/09 2:58:53 PM#63
  popinjay

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Aaron Rodgers>Brett Favre

 
7/07/09 3:42:29 PM#64


Originally posted by frodus

 
I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers. 


You pulled that from a blog where the blogger gave no reliable reference link to where he got that number. He pulled it from the place where he stores his Doritos.

Stop misinterpreting it.

  popinjay

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Joined: 9/07/07
Posts: 6638

Aaron Rodgers>Brett Favre

 
7/07/09 3:52:11 PM#65


Originally posted by Dracus

Originally posted by popinjay

No no, you misunderstand. It is a discussion forum. But what he was saying wasn't discussing anything.
...



According to your point of view.
Interesting now that you withdrawing from responding directly to me...
Anyhoot, I play down a card, just one card mind you, to counter your “couple of thousand” and yet you dismiss it and stick with your “couple of thousand.” You are correct though that there is nothing to discuss, that is when one choses to deny or not to accept points which counters his/her point.
Your “couple of thousand” was countered and so in order to protect your original objective, you bring up the mass events and claim that to be successes and anything else to be of failures. Now since this is a MMORPG site and to keep the thread in line to this site, I will use an analogy with games. By your examples and point of view with numbers, WoW is a success, while Eve-Online and Maid Marian are considered as failures.
You type like a Sith, passionate and absolute, which does weaken your cause. I could state those nearly two million Obama supporters in Washington DC believed all of their problems; such as dead-end flipping burger jobs, paying for mortgages and gasoline would be solved by Obama. But that is not true, the same goes for your absolute assumptions.
By the way, I am glad you brought up Bill Maher, from that statement of yours, did you refer to Bill Maher the person, or Bill Maher the entertainer? While the same person, just to let you in on something... what Bill Maher says or does during his “gig” (as he calls it) is not of the same viewpoints he actually believes in.
"Either way, there is no way he or you can call those tired teabagger rallies a success. It was just a couple of thousand people playing dress up for the cameras and family scrapbooks for their later years."
There you go again Joe, a couple of thousand.
What you should type out is and based by your forum persona's history of postings in this thread, “... there is no way he, you or anyone else can convince me of calling those tired teabagger rallies a success.”
And let us leave it at that, shall we?
 

1.8 million went to see Obama. Billions more watched on television here and around the world.


35,000 played "dress-up and yell" at the Post Office on the Fourth of July.




Americans are a truly wise people.

  Godliest

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7/07/09 4:17:44 PM#66

This is possibly the most off-topic thread ever in the off-topic.



  Ekibiogami

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Posts: 3014

Grammatically Retarded.

7/07/09 4:23:16 PM#67
Originally posted by Godliest

This is possibly the most off-topic thread ever in the off-topic.


 

Naa Not even Close... thi I think its the first time that the OP has derailed it tho....

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  Dracus

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Posts: 1441

"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars."
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7/07/09 6:15:37 PM#68
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by frodus

 

 
I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers. 


 

You pulled that from a blog where the blogger gave no reliable reference link to where he got that number. He pulled it from the place where he stores his Doritos.

 

 

Stop misinterpreting it.

And I suggest you stop dismissing points out of hand that go against your point of view.

The source was from Tea Party Organizer.  Come on now, you worked with newspapers or so you have claimed.  Do the research to prove or disapprove, the revolutionary super information highway, the deconstructor of newspapers is right at your fingertips.

And that is why...

Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  Dracus

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Joined: 7/14/04
Posts: 1441

"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars."
- Brian Littrell

7/07/09 6:30:55 PM#69
Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

1.8 million went to see Obama. Billions more watched on television here and around the world.

...

BILLIONS!

Now you're onto Billions!



What does the scope of billions of people around the world for a televised event have to do with domestic taxation and budget policies?

That is wonderful and great in which so many people tuned in for such an event, but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.  Your point is that the Tea Party Movement is Dead, that no one will attend the past rallies. 

Your point has been countered.

And that is why...

Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

  popinjay

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Posts: 6638

Aaron Rodgers>Brett Favre

 
7/07/09 7:39:28 PM#70


Originally posted by Dracus

Originally posted by popinjay

 



Originally posted by frodus
 
 
I pulled this from the article --->If you one of the estimated 750,000 Americans who attended one of about 600 TEA parties last week.thats not bad numbers. 



 
You pulled that from a blog where the blogger gave no reliable reference link to where he got that number. He pulled it from the place where he stores his Doritos.
 
 
Stop misinterpreting it.


And I suggest you stop dismissing points out of hand that go against your point of view.

The source was from Tea Party Organizer.  Come on now, you worked with newspapers or so you have claimed.  Do the research to prove or disapprove, the revolutionary super information highway, the deconstructor of newspapers is right at your fingertips.



The numbers aren't verified. It's his guess vs any other citizen's guess.


It's obvious it's no where near 750k lol.

You must have me confused with someone else. I don't work for any newspaper. I think you misread something again. The teaparties are pretty much dead, and no one of any significance attends them. Just bored folks looking for something to pass the time basically.

Hmm.. I'll change it to a billion that watched Obama worldwide. That's pretty much how excited everyone was when he was elected. I can imagine how upsetting that must be for you, but its pretty much in the history books now, while teabaggers are just plain history.

  n2sooners

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Joined: 10/29/03
Posts: 921

7/07/09 8:42:07 PM#71

Nearly 37.8 million Americans watching at home viewed President Barack Obama’s oath of office and inaugural speech between the hours of 10:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. ET on January 20, 2009.  This is the most viewed inauguration since the record of 41.8 million viewers who watched Ronald Reagan’s 1981 inauguration.

 

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/media_entertainment/nearly-378-million-watch-president-obamas-oath-and-speech/

  Dracus

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"Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars."
- Brian Littrell

7/07/09 9:04:34 PM#72

I stand corrected, I mistook a quote and so I apologise for the newspaper bit.

For verification of numbers, the same can be said of Obama's Inaurgation as multiple sources ranged it from 1.2 to 1.8 million with no confirmation of 1.8 million.  It is assumed to be correct.

The 1 Billion is still too high, closer to being under 200,000 million including streaming webvideo would be more correct (world viewership).  And no this does not make me upset as it is great to see that the world has an interest with who our leader is.  But again this is outside of the scope of domestic policies.

Now that you have accepted my 35,000; I will place down another card of 25,000 to rise the bet to 60,000, which does exceed your 50,000 assumption.  Let me remind you, this is only of two cards I am putting in so far, I still have hundreds of cards left in my hand.

So in summary:
Started at 0
Raise to 2,000
Raise to 35,000
Raise to 50,000
Raise to 60,000

And that is why...

Conservatives' pessimism is conducive to their happiness in three ways. First, they are rarely surprised -- they are right more often than not about the course of events. Second, when they are wrong they are happy to be so. Third, because pessimistic conservatives put not their faith in princes -- government -- they accept that happiness is a function of fending for oneself. They believe that happiness is an activity -- it is inseparable from the pursuit of happiness.

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