Dang Caelach your still ranting and raveing about RoM? Let it go man, You must have spend an ass load of $$$ in the cash shop to hold such a grudge over this game.

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Originally posted by caelach

 

I am truly glad you and your family are enjoying ROM. My purpose is mostly to warn others not to get caught up in the cash shop scam.
 

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I'm having a hard time understanding how you view the cash shop as a scam when it's completely optional. I've used it myself (as stated above) and don't feel like I was ripped off at all. I've gotten hundreds of hours worth of game play (counting everyone in my household) for next to nothing. You've spent as much on GW for yourself and one other person as I have on my entire family for RoM and we still haven't explored all of the content available in 6 months of playing. How is that at all a scam?

When I did play GW (way back when it was released), it lasted all of about 6 weeks before it became too repetitious for my taste, and the controls were clunky and made me feel disconnected from my toon (something I despise). So to me, RoM has been a much better game and much less expensive.

Originally posted by Sixpax

 

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Originally posted by caelach

 

I am truly glad you and your family are enjoying ROM. My purpose is mostly to warn others not to get caught up in the cash shop scam.
 

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I'm having a hard time understanding how you view the cash shop as a scam when it's completely optional. I've used it myself (as stated above) and don't feel like I was ripped off at all. I've gotten hundreds of hours worth of game play (counting everyone in my household) for next to nothing. You've spent as much on GW for yourself and one other person as I have on my entire family for RoM and we still haven't explored all of the content available in 6 months of playing. How is that at all a scam?

When I did play GW (way back when it was released), it lasted all of about 6 weeks before it became too repetitious for my taste, and the controls were clunky and made me feel disconnected from my toon (something I despise). So to me, RoM has been a much better game and much less expensive.

One can buy GW for about the same as it could cost to buy one permanent mount in ROM. The content in GW is much greater than ROM.

If you did not enjoy GW all I can say is; that happens. But a much greater number of people have enjoyed GW than will ever enjoy ROM. I also contend the numbers ROM claims for players is greatly exaggerated by counting many that are multiple accounts and no longer play.

The ROM cash shop is a scam especially because they have had people pay money for upgrades and then rendered the upgrades less effective. Their nerfing of classes when they left open beta was absurd after selling in the cash shop for some time before that.

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Originally posted by caelach

 

One can buy GW for about the same as it could cost to buy one permanent mount in ROM. The content in GW is much greater than ROM.

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That doesn't say much for GW (the price thing), considering a permanent mount in RoM only costs $8.76. Plus they don't add new content to GW so you're stuck with a static set of content once you buy it. RoM's content is ever expanding.

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Originally posted by caelach

 

If you did not enjoy GW all I can say is; that happens. But a much greater number of people have enjoyed GW than will ever enjoy ROM. I also contend the numbers ROM claims for players is greatly exaggerated by counting many that are multiple accounts and no longer play.

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Not sure how you can know how many will play RoM during the same lifespan that GW has had. Also, the fact that they recently opened a new server in the US and they've had to add an additional channel to Artemis, speaks much louder about their playerbase than your (biased) opinion.

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Originally posted by caelach

 

The ROM cash shop is a scam especially because they have had people pay money for upgrades and then rendered the upgrades less effective. Their nerfing of classes when they left open beta was absurd after selling in the cash shop for some time before that.

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If it were a scam, then people wouldn't keep buying the upgrade jewels over and over, but they do. I, myself, have bought a few of the upgrade jewels and have been nothing but pleased with the results. So what you're stating and the truth just aren't lining up.

Originally posted by Sixpax

 

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Originally posted by caelach

 

One can buy GW for about the same as it could cost to buy one permanent mount in ROM. The content in GW is much greater than ROM.

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That doesn't say much for GW (the price thing), considering a permanent mount in RoM only costs $8.76. Plus they don't add new content to GW so you're stuck with a static set of content once you buy it. RoM's content is ever expanding.

 

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Originally posted by caelach

 

If you did not enjoy GW all I can say is; that happens. But a much greater number of people have enjoyed GW than will ever enjoy ROM. I also contend the numbers ROM claims for players is greatly exaggerated by counting many that are multiple accounts and no longer play.

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Not sure how you can know how many will play RoM during the same lifespan that GW has had. Also, the fact that they recently opened a new server in the US and they've had to add an additional channel to Artemis, speaks much louder about their playerbase than your (biased) opinion.

 

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Originally posted by caelach

 

The ROM cash shop is a scam especially because they have had people pay money for upgrades and then rendered the upgrades less effective. Their nerfing of classes when they left open beta was absurd after selling in the cash shop for some time before that.

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If it were a scam, then people wouldn't keep buying the upgrade jewels over and over, but they do. I, myself, have bought a few of the upgrade jewels and have been nothing but pleased with the results. So what you're stating and the truth just aren't lining up.

nha this game is big,the one that hate it are mostly those that cant budget

yes in f2p the amount you can spend isnt static like wow

in wow ,buy 1,2,3 box set  plus monthly fee

in rom you got to crunch what wow costed and spend about same

some player dont like the fact that rich men spend 100 $ a week in rom

who cares lol the majority spend about 15 to 25$ a month total average in a year

they ll buy lot of diamond to start rolling then they dont need a lot once they re on a roll

all game cost something even guild wars

guild wars have kit like the pvp kit etc

yes you can farm skill by doing pve lol by the time your done farming all skill

lot of water will have flowed under the bridge

yep sorry to bust your bubble but ALL GAME cost something

you just have to do a budget how mutch your willing to spend and for f2p its a big + in my view

Originally posted by toddze

Dang Caelach your still ranting and raveing about RoM? Let it go man, You must have spend an ass load of $$$ in the cash shop to hold such a grudge over this game.

Nah, I have barely played the piece of crap since just after it came out of open beta. I'm just responding to folks like you who reply to me. I didn't spend much in their cash shop. I bought one perm mount and another as a gift for a female friend. I still have cash to spend in the shop. It just isn't worth the time.

Okay Six, expressed as a percent of total content, how much content has been added to ROM since it went public? It needs to go about X10 to equal one GW title.

i honestly tried to get into this game but it just played so sluggishly. I mean i  had 20+ fps all the time just everything was sluggish and i was playing on north american servers. Besides that its a carbon copy of WoW for the most part minus the graphics are worse but its still great for a f2p just wish i could get it to run properly

Originally posted by Frostbite05

i honestly tried to get into this game but it just played so sluggishly. I mean i  had 20+ fps all the time just everything was sluggish and i was playing on north american servers. Besides that its a carbon copy of WoW for the most part minus the graphics are worse but its still great for a f2p just wish i could get it to run properly

I experienced a lot of lag as time went on with this game. I was getting virtual memory messages which indicated leaky software. I never had such an issue with any other game. I also found re-installing and DLing the patches again improved the lag issue, but lots of people have this problem. My friend who lives on the opposite coast had even worse lag than me. It's about the worst lag I've ever seen.

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

I can tell you that their may be some reason to the GM's words.I have been playing and the quests have me leveling too fast,that i often outlevel the rewards.So i think they are trying to have players remain the same level long enough to enjoy doing all the quests and still be a decent level to use the rewards.Imagine having 10 quests,then by the time you finish the 10th you are 2 levels above the item level you got,kind of a waste.

I would not consider any of the classes nerfed,i play them all and they are all pretty good,they must have been far over powered before,if the OP thinks these are nerfed.What does the OP expect??to one shot everything?i can two shot same level mobs with my mage,so any more powerfull would be ridiculous,and i am using standard gear,i can imagine if i had all the top of the line all with top of the line runes imbued onto my gear.

If anyone has ever played FFXI,you would know what a grind is,you could not solo anything even match at mid levels,not without a long fight and long downtime,ROM actually has fast regens and allow you to fight a little too fast IMO,VERY little down time.

As to GW,you might as well play a single player game,because you spend most of the game in instances by yourself or just your group,you will see nobody else,i would say that type of game does not blow the socks off any MMORPG,because it is not a MMORPG at all.

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

I would lik to respond to the LAG issue.

The lag is really funny stuff in this game.I can go long periods and experience no lag,then al lof a sudden i do the Nightmare on Elm street deja vu thing where i am going over my same steps from 10-20 secs ago.

So the lag is not there for most of the game,it just pops out of nowhere for a reason i cannot explain.Only thing close to that would be the old Win200 creeping lag bug,but this is not even like that either,it is just very spotty.

I would say on average if i play for 4 hours i might see the lag spike once maybe twice,the rest of the time i experience nothing noticeable.Nobody out there will have more lag than me on my crap Canadian internet backbone,that goes through a million of the highest pop cities in North America,so everyone should expect decent pings/playability in this game.

I did notice the one night,i think was Saturday or Sunday when there was a ton fo players on,the server lagged a bit,no doubt it was over populated.I hear they are maybe adding more servers,so no doubt the yare at times experiencing some crowded servers.

Do not listen to the guy who tries to say it is a WOW copy with less graphics.The graphics are more realistic but yes they do only have the same average quality,you see in most games.WOW has nothing on any game for graphics ,not even the aged console game FFXI.If graphics mattered at all to any WOW player,they would be playing the game WOW copied and that is EQ,because EQ2 is much better quality with much better graphics.I would much prefer to play ROM for free than pay Blizzard anything for that crap Warcraft engine.

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

 

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Yes I believe if someone has not spent money on a f2p games cash shop has no opinion. That completely makes sense as they are not contributing to the games core (production costs). If you were in there shoes my statement would ring true. 

Who makes updates for the games? The company.

Do the employees of said company work for free? No

Where does the money for the employees come from? The game

In a f2p game where does the money from the game come from? Item shop

So basically unless you buy something you are not the one paying the wages of those employees he create updates, content and fix bugs and issues. Because you are not contributing to the game moving forward.

But your not one of them and not contributing to this game ( I do not believe you spent any money) you may have posted about it, but thats a lie. Wanna know how I know? Its easy. Because yor ranting about the cost of the game, you want the best gear in a perfect game without spending money. Thats what I get from you.

Casual gamers don't need perfect gear, so they wouldn't quit a game because it costs some cash for the best in slot gear juiced up. Hardcore gamers do what it takes o get the best gear.

Cheapskates wander from mmo to mmo quitting once they realize hey have to invest in a games future to get the best gear

Originally posted by Sixpax

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by daniel!!!

this is only going to be short, but i believe this game is amazing, especaily for it being F2P, yes it has its downsides, but what eles do you expect, i havnt fount a F2P mmorpg as good as this yet.

 

Guild Wars is f2p. You think ROM is better than that? That's crazy talk.

 

I most definitely consider RoM better than GW in many aspects.  The whole non-persistent world, nauseatingly repetitive PvP, and quirky character controls that don't respond like you expect them too being the most notable.

And if you love GW that much, why are you trolling the RoM forums... oh right, the separation anxiety thing... got it.

 

I can understand your dislike for Guild Wars but please do not spread lies about it. The character controls are very fluid, there's nothing wrong with them if you are used to controlling character movement with your keyboard and mouse (like WoW), and to say that PvP is repetitive, is just utter bullcrap. The different ways you set up your skillset can change the way you play your character and you can always change them when not in a battle. Maybe you disliked the group PvP but that's no reason to lie about the game.

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

 

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Yes I believe if someone has not spent money on a f2p games cash shop has no opinion. That completely makes sense as they are not contributing to the games core (production costs). If you were in there shoes my statement would ring true. 

Who makes updates for the games? The company.

Do the employees of said company work for free? No

Where does the money for the employees come from? The game

In a f2p game where does the money from the game come from? Item shop

So basically unless you buy something you are not the one paying the wages of those employees he create updates, content and fix bugs and issues. Because you are not contributing to the game moving forward.

But your not one of them and not contributing to this game ( I do not believe you spent any money) you may have posted about it, but thats a lie. Wanna know how I know? Its easy. Because yor ranting about the cost of the game, you want the best gear in a perfect game without spending money. Thats what I get from you.

Casual gamers don't need perfect gear, so they wouldn't quit a game because it costs some cash for the best in slot gear juiced up. Hardcore gamers do what it takes o get the best gear.

Cheapskates wander from mmo to mmo quitting once they realize hey have to invest in a games future to get the best gear

I'm not a liar. Don't call me that. Neither shall you call me a cheapskate. I'm rather sure I could buy and sell you. As I said, I'll let your statement that if somebody isn't investing in the CS they should not express an opinion about the game be evidence of your measure.

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

Originally posted by caelach

Been playing in the beta since December. The recent massive change to the combat system has destroyed this game. Most classes are now nerfed to the point that it is a super grind. The GMs on the forum actually have the nerve to say it is "to let the player enjoy the content LONGER". That is hilarious. Translation: grind and spend in th CS to try to relieve the grind a bit! This  is really sad, because it looked like a good game. It is also quite underhanded to suck in the beta players with one thing and creat a nice starting player base, then pull the rug out and destroy their characters. These people are the typical sleazy f2p bunch.

 

 

Update: They finally "released" the game. What a joke. The nerfing of most classes was not fixed with the release patch. This is a big grind and the lag is terrible. Every other toon you see is a mage because the other classes suck. What started out as an awesome f2p game is just another money grubbing endeavor.

 

I also note since release, and the "Great Nerfing" the rating here has dropped from 8.4 to 8 in a week. Expect more of the same. But now you can buy an ostrich mount for $18 bucks or so!!! That's their idea of a game improvement. If you haven't played it get a copy of Guild Wars for $15 on ebay or amazon. It blows this CS grind away. 

 

First question is did you spend any money in the item shop. Actually do not answer that because by your posts I know you didn't.

That right there makes any opinion you have towards this game or developers invalid as its not you keeping this game running. This game will do fine without your money, oh wait it wasn't getting it in the first place.

Now what people gotta understand is these games cannot be made for free, they cannot be maintained for free, so that being said whats the problem with having certain aspects rely on the cash shop. Gimme a break, there here to make money, there not money grubbing company, there an actual company.

Lets look at nerfing, you say they nerfed all the classes, but go on to say mages were OP. If you had any video game knowlodge, any at all, you would understand to even out classes to a "balance" doesn't mean reduce damage on spells or certain skills, it requires stepping back and looking at the whole picture. WHy are they OP to this, or to that. Because of this its easier and more efficient to "nerf" then to buff.

 

P.S, there opening a new server, so by there numbers there player base is increasing, thats a fact because they would not spend more money if they didn't need to. There adding 2 more classes. So yea, just because you probably sucked at this game and got "roflpwnedbbq" or w/e crap kid talk you guys use, does not mean this game sucks.

 

For F2P this is by far the best out there. It truly is, do not believe the OP's slander.

 

You think if somebody has not spent in the cash shop their opinion of the game is invalid? That's absurd. I'll let that statement stand as representing the worth of your entire assessment of the game.

 

Yes, I spent $40 in the cash shop. It was a complete waste of money on a poor game.

Yes I believe if someone has not spent money on a f2p games cash shop has no opinion. That completely makes sense as they are not contributing to the games core (production costs). If you were in there shoes my statement would ring true. 

Who makes updates for the games? The company.

Do the employees of said company work for free? No

Where does the money for the employees come from? The game

In a f2p game where does the money from the game come from? Item shop

So basically unless you buy something you are not the one paying the wages of those employees he create updates, content and fix bugs and issues. Because you are not contributing to the game moving forward.

But your not one of them and not contributing to this game ( I do not believe you spent any money) you may have posted about it, but thats a lie. Wanna know how I know? Its easy. Because yor ranting about the cost of the game, you want the best gear in a perfect game without spending money. Thats what I get from you.

Casual gamers don't need perfect gear, so they wouldn't quit a game because it costs some cash for the best in slot gear juiced up. Hardcore gamers do what it takes o get the best gear.

Cheapskates wander from mmo to mmo quitting once they realize hey have to invest in a games future to get the best gear

I'm not a liar. Don't call me that. Neither shall you call me a cheapskate. I'm rather sure I could buy and sell you. As I said, I'll let your statement that if somebody isn't investing in the CS they should not express an opinion about the game be evidence of your measure.

 

Whats amazing that your gripes with the actual gameplay of this game have been shot down in this thread, and now you only defence to this game sucking is a cash shop.

Why do people expect game companys to make games for free? Next time you go to work (if you work) tell your lead that hey, lets do this all for free, lets give away all the stuff we manufacture and maintain for free!!!! See where that gets you.

Funny how you took that cheapskate to heart, at no point did I indicate you, but yes I called you a liar because I honestly believe you did not buy anything, does that make me a bad person? No, Im calling your bluff, as you have no proof of it its just the way its gonna be. Let it go.

But yes unless you plan on investing in this games future i.e giving them money, you have no say in how this game runs. Go tell a big name company like Apple to poll a bunch of people who will never buy a Mc product to see how apple can do it better and there opinion and see what they say. They will tell you the same thing, unless your investing in the future of the product your thoughts and concerns are useless.

Its the f2p way, people can enjoy the game for free because others spend more then a monthly fee to play, so let it be. I spend $15 to go to a movie, for 15 bucks I can buy a neat little digital item I can enjoy longer? Sounds resonable to me, and to others. But hey I spend money on stuff I enjoy. And because of that mentality this game is free to others. 

Take your bad arguement somewhere else

You sir, are awesome. This argument on the "true meaning" of f2p has been tossed all over the internet to the point where someone actually posted "f2p doesn't mean it's free it just means it's free." YES FREE TO PLAY, that's exactly what it is, f2p means the game will never stop you in the middle of gameplay and say "To Continue Playing Please Pay us $$$." Yes OF COURSE they are going to advertise things that you can actually purchase, this doesn't stop you from playing the game, however, it merely enhances your gameplay experiance. Finally someone with actual logic can punch these whiners where it hurts.

And unreasonable lag is a different issue entirly isn't it? ANd the nerfing of the games classes, well yes this is bad as well. I don't see how people could blame a cash shop on issues such as these.

As always, some people will not be satisfied with micro transactions. F2P works well for some and not so well for others. RoM was the first F2P game I ever gave an honest effort, and I found that this system isn't for me. For anyone who wants to casually play a fantasy MMO, a few hours a week, and not take it very seriously, this is a fine system. For anyone who wants to buy their way into the upper ranks, this is also a good system. For anyone who wants the freedom to experience everything a game has to offer, on a $15 per month budget, this is not a very good system.

RoM serves a purpose. It's a well refined game, with some depth, for casual gamers who like to play but don't feel any game is worth paying for. It's also a system for gamers who want no limit on the amount of money they spend on gaming and for the money spent to be directly reflected in their gaming experience. For anyone in-between, it'll be a mixed bag. Face it, the more you spend in RoM, the more you get. Accept that or don't bother down-loading it. You may want to take advantage of that sytem or it may prove limiting if you budget your gaming expenses..

Most casual gamers (hobbyists that will spend $15/month) would probably find a better experience elsewehere. That's my personal opinion and is by no means a reason not to try RoM for yourself. If you want more, faster than most sub based games offer, RoM might be for you. To me, RoM gaming proved to be of lesser value than it's competitors -- monthly subs. I find the freedom of monthly subs (with unfettered access) fits me better than micro-transactions.

Runes of Magic was pretty fun and had a lot of potential until the 1816 patch(for my friends and I anyway). The game was starting to get somewhere then they dropped the ball with a major combat overhaul like one week or less before release(march 2009) which lost a lot of the playerbase and left some classes totally wrecked. That's it in a nutshell, and I don't think they have recovered from it.

So, basically.....yeah.....avoid this game.