Originally posted by shad0w99

 

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Originally posted by Trueth

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Originally posted by shad0w99

 

Vanguard is by far the best MMO around at the moment. The ONLY issue is the lack of population and lack of a faction-based PvP server (Not FFA). Although the population is to blame for not having a server of that type!
 

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Hey, guy who doesn' know WTF he is talking about. All the PVP servers were merged into the FFA Server - The playerbase was not consulted. The playerbase did however ask that team pvp be kept, NOT FFA.
The reason SOE gave us FFA only is because it's the easiest form of PVP to maintain. There are no rules, and therefore its the perfect excuse to not actually have to do anything with it. Where as Team PVP would have issues with race/class restrictions leading to an OP side.
Next time don't post. kthx.

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Hey! Guy who can't comprehend written English!

I didn't say the playerbase was to blame for there only being a FFA server. I said the population is to blame. I'm well aware there used to be a team PvP server. The reason it disappeared, along with a couple of others, was because the population wasn't large enough to justify having multiple PvP servers. Had the population not declined there would still be a team PvP server. Thus, the population (or lack thereof) is to blame for having only one PvP server.

Next time read carefully

kthxbye.

mm yep and its not just this p2p game almost all p2p game are slowly loosing player

i speak to my friend and they mostly tell me

hey mike why dont you come to m,d,y  f2p game instead

its not just a trend f2p game are getting more player now because their game is on par with p2p and dont forget

one thing

if z player doesnt like either saga .and he would rater play twelves sky

he can wothout crying because he just shelled 50 $ at ebgame for a game that doesnt fit his flavor of the month

that is whats becoming the main factor

because in a year of play the cost for f2p and p2p is about the same

but the initial cost like the first day you play is a lot bigger in p2p then in f2p

thats why p2p model is slowly loosing ground

(only wow still does good the rest are trickleing out of p2p mmo)

Originally posted by Trueth

Originally posted by shad0w99

 

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I didn't say the playerbase was to blame for there only being a FFA server. I said the population is to blame.

Had the population not declined there would still be a team PvP server.

 

I'll just quote you to accentuate how lost you really are. 

Lemme guess, next you'll tell us the game is still buggy with poor performance because the population didn't support it properly, and had the players embraced the concept of viral marketing Vanguard would be a smash hit!

Try knowing something next time.

 

And before you get your Malibu Barbi panties all tangled up, try reading all 75 pages of /signed - Then you'll know.

 

 

 

I want to see those Malibu Barbie panties all tangled up.

Pics or it never happened! 

Originally posted by Trueth

Originally posted by shad0w99

 

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I didn't say the playerbase was to blame for there only being a FFA server. I said the population is to blame.

Had the population not declined there would still be a team PvP server.

 

I'll just quote you to accentuate how lost you really are. 

Lemme guess, next you'll tell us the game is still buggy with poor performance because the population didn't support it properly, and had the players embraced the concept of viral marketing Vanguard would be a smash hit!

Try knowing something next time.

 

And before you get your Malibu Barbi panties all tangled up, try reading all 75 pages of /signed - Then you'll know.

 

 

 

School----> that way
 

After launch of VG i stayed back like after launch of AoC. Now i play AoC with a lot of players who played since launch and it looks the game is going through the right way. Much more palyers in last months. And much more after new patch. Yes a lot of players are sad from this update, but .... that is normal in a way of big changes like in this.

I hope the VG will have the same. I kept this game back, because it failed on launch too and i still wait. But it looks that they will have problems to make this game mor epopulated. Like u said they want to relaunch it and release some relay big change update, what will take an attention of potential players. I hope one day it will go :)

I cant understand, why a lot of players dont like older games and still looking forward for new releases. If i can say ... now is AoC another game, VG looks much better than was in release. The same was in EQ2 ... EQ2 is one of the content most full games ever and how its around new palyers comunity? Dead... ye, why they all want to go into new games and throwing that games back. Yes im looking forward to play SWTOR, may be Mortal Online etc. .. but why to say i wait for this games i will not play old crap ... damn, why? ... when something will be launched, yes, it can bee good, it can be great, but still ... after a few years it will be much and much better... but a lot of these palyers who waited for these new titles will not see it, because they will be in another noe games in these times. I dont understand, how can be fun for most MMO player to be "Launch tester / Late beta testers" of much release games ....

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Originally posted by Trueth

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Originally posted by shad0w99

 

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I didn't say the playerbase was to blame for there only being a FFA server. I said the population is to blame.
Had the population not declined there would still be a team PvP server.

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I'll just quote you to accentuate how lost you really are. 
Lemme guess, next you'll tell us the game is still buggy with poor performance because the population didn't support it properly, and had the players embraced the concept of viral marketing Vanguard would be a smash hit!
Try knowing something next time.
 
And before you get your Malibu Barbi panties all tangled up, try reading all 75 pages of /signed - Then you'll know.
 
 
 

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And why do you think it was they needed to merge the PvP servers in the first place? Why would any company merge servers for that matter?

Judging by your previous posts it appears I have to spell things out for you. Otherwise I would leave my reply as rhetorical questions for you to work out for yourself.

The answer is... They needed to merge the PvP servers because a lot of people quit the game. It's all very well you showing me a petition signed by all the Team PvP players but had SOE retained what they would consider a reasonable playerbase (and by that I mean size, not quality) the Team PvP server would not have been merged in the first place.

Why they went with a FFA server as opposed to a Team PvP server despite a lot of people asking for it is a totally different matter.

I see many have different feelings on all aspects of this MMORPG.

Mine?  I feel it is still ahead of the curve.  It's still "The PS3 of the MMORPG world".

But now that many bugs and problems are taken care of, and the terrific careers and crafting system in game.

I am going back to this wonderful world to fully explore it:)

Originally posted by shad0w99

 

Yap Yap...

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Keep changing your story, you might eventually get it right. But until then you should just put on your big girl panties and let the people who know, have a conversation.

As to why there is an FFA server and no Team server - I told you already, but you probably missed it in your rush to gush stupid.

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"The reason SOE gave us FFA only (despite a 75 page vote) is because it's the easiest form of PVP to maintain. There are no rules, and therefore its the perfect excuse to not actually have to do anything with it. Where as Team PVP would have issues with race/class restrictions leading to an OP side (and player complaints/issues that could make the server unplayable)."

Listen, lady, because I can only say it so many times - Try knowing something next time.

You want to know what we want? More players! It may sound nice to say "come back!" but it's not that easy. You want my opinion (doubt it, but I'll tell you anyways)? It's simple:

Edit some storyline, rename a few places, add some nostalgia and call it EVERQUEST 3 with a catch subtitle with the word "vanguard" in it!   The capabilities and gfx of it are still of next-gen and can get away with it.

Completely repackage it, give it a different name, add a major content package to it and voila.

Now would be the perfect time to ramp up the Vanguard Dev team and relaunch this game.  The landscape is completely barren for a massive "world" type fantasy mmo.  WoW never was filling for people wanting a MMO with massive depth.  EQ2 did ok for a while, but the way it was designed made it too limited for continued growth, and it is now barely hanging on by a thread with the rats ready to jump the ship at any time.  LoTRO is extremely niche due to it's predetermined expansion path and lore.  There are absolutely no PVE games of note coming in the near future and Vanguard is still more than good enough to position itself to be ready to capture the wandering masses.  But many won't play it (myself included), as noone wants to invest the time required to get into a game like Vanguard when they know there is no hope of ever seeing expansions in the future.

But SoE won't do this... They will continue to stubbornly hang onto their flagship titles in SW online, EQ 1 & 2, and Free Realms.  With some real effort put into development on this game there is huge potential for it to dominate the high fantasy market at this time.

Originally posted by Trueth

Originally posted by shad0w99

Vanguard is by far the best MMO around at the moment. The ONLY issue is the lack of population and lack of a faction-based PvP server (Not FFA). Although the population is to blame for not having a server of that type!

 

 

Hey, guy who doesn' know WTF he is talking about. All the PVP servers were merged into the FFA Server - The playerbase was not consulted. The playerbase did however ask that team pvp be kept, NOT FFA.

The reason SOE gave us FFA only is because it's the easiest form of PVP to maintain. There are no rules, and therefore its the perfect excuse to not actually have to do anything with it. Where as Team PVP would have issues with race/class restrictions leading to an OP side.

Next time don't post. kthx.