Whoa!!!  I thought you Europeans were not as violent as us American's.  It appears that is a myth!!!
Be sure to check the table at the bottom of the article.  And remember, it says that the U.S. has a violence rate of 466 per 100,000 when you look at that table.  Waaay below those other mostly european countries.
You guys need to be carrying some guns like us.  We don't put up with behavior like that!!!  We believe that protecting the individual is the individuals responsibility mostly.  Police are there to show up AFTER the crime has been committed.  Or, after the crime has been avoided if the crook finds his victim a bit unwilling.
I know that any crook or punk that comes after me is going to find a big surprise waiting for him.  I am not going to play victim for someone.

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The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S.

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.

The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

* The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
* It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
* The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
* It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.

In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.

The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1,609.

Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

'We're now on our fourth Home Secretary this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction.'

The figures, compiled by the Tories, are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.

But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.

In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.

There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.

Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.

But Police Minister David Hanson said: 'These figures are misleading.
Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.

'Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'.'

The timing of the Europe-wide violence figures is a blow for Mr Johnson, who will today seek to reassert Labour's law and order credentials.

In his first major speech on crime since becoming Home Secretary, Mr Johnson is expected to promise a concerted crack down on antisocial behaviour.

He wants to set up a website to allow the public to see what is taking place in their neighbourhood, such as the number of louts who have been served with Asbos.

Mr Johnson is also known to support early intervention to stop children going off the rails.


 

Chavs and third world immigrants are a recipe for crime.

Pretty sad what has happened to the once great civilizations of Europe.  Then again, fifty years ago they were all slaughtering each other by the million for no real reason, but at least Europe was a nice place to be in peace time back then.  The situation in the UK represents a broader shift of social and cultural disintegration that is taking place throughout Western Europe.

It is interesting to note that the violent crime rate in Canada is more than double that in the US.  LOL.  I'm also surprised that Sweden's violent crime rate is so high, but of course they have allowed quite a large influx of muslim immigrants who had no intention of assimilating to the local culture, and that is what happens.

What did you expect in a country where if toddlers in playgroup fight, the Police are called.

"His beat may be school corridors and classrooms, but the day-to-day challenges facing Pc Brian Churm are no different to those of officers out on the mean streets."

"The 43-year-old tackles issues ranging from the age-old fight in the playground right up to the new worry of on-line bullying".

“Say there had been a fight in the playground, we would be called in, the kids arrested for assault and then cautioned."

South Africa, it isn't.

In Britain sending someone an abusive text message or email classifies as a violent crime. The last time I was burgled, the Police took 7 hours to respond to my 999 call. They had been 1 mile away dealing with a child who had been ringing another child on his mobile phone. "Violent crimes" take priority.

The teachers Union is trying to have mobile phones banned from schools for being "offensive weapons".

Crime is out of control here alright. Just not in the same way that headline suggests. Too many law makers.

Originally posted by baff

The last time I was burgled, the Police took 7 hours to respond to my 999 call. They had been 1 mile away dealing with a child who had been ringing another child on his mobile phone. "Violent crimes" take priority.

Last time you were burgled?  Holy shit!  How common does that happen in the UK now?

Dude, I live in the US.  I come from a poor family.  Not rich neighborhoods.  I've never been burgled.  Neither have any of my family members.  In the US it's considered a nightmare to get burgled. 

You're so far up shit creek over there you don't even know which way the water is flowing!  O.o 

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by baff

The last time I was burgled, the Police took 7 hours to respond to my 999 call. They had been 1 mile away dealing with a child who had been ringing another child on his mobile phone. "Violent crimes" take priority.

Last time you were burgled?  Holy shit!  How common does that happen in the UK now?

Dude, I live in the US.  I come from a poor family.  Not rich neighborhoods.  I've never been burgled.  Neither have any of my family members.  In the US it's considered a nightmare to get burgled. 

You're so far up shit creek over there you don't even know which way the water is flowing!  O.o 

Maybe its not worth breaking into your home for a broken Walkman, a pair of muddied work boots and a bulk-pack of Ramon noodles?

Anyway, the Brits, as mentioned by someone above, have a certain way of classifying violance. In the US you hear about "Gun Crime", in the UK, they don't have guns, so they have rampant "Knife Crime".

Originally posted by gnomexxx

 

If only these stats showed how many foreigners and immigrants are committing these crimes.

Europe wasn't violent 20 years ago. Now taking the subway after 8pm can get you killed.

Why does this surprise people? We humans have always been barbaric.

I for one don't care, tho I can see that the racists.. ehrm rightwingers will get more popular.

Originally posted by Forumfall

Why does this surprise people? We humans have always been barbaric.

I for one don't care, tho I can see that the racists.. ehrm rightwingers will get more popular.

Wasn't a problem just some years back. A couple of years ago I saw a statistic saying that 46% of all youth crimes in Denmark is committed by immigrants. A minority which is about 1/10th of the whole population, so very roughly can one say they are purely statistically about 9 times more criminal than the danish population.

Now tell me am I a racist for wanting to restrict how many immigrants we get in?

You think Denmark is bad?

watch this

www.youtube.com/watch

Originally posted by Forumfall

tho I can see that the racists.. ehrm rightwingers will get more popular.

Who's to Blame for the rise of the Far-Right and the Ultra Nationalists?

Complete and utter garbage report.

I've frequented Austria and Germany; it isn't half as bad as the US .

As was mentioned in the article, they tend to classify a lot of things as violent crime.

In Austria, you almost never see homes with bars on them and the homicide rate is less than a 1/4th of what it is in the US.

Washington D.C. and Detroit make the worst parts of Austria look like Disney Land; the murder rates in the latter cities are actually comparable to that of Jamaica, which has among the highest.

A lot of violent crimes go unreported in South Africa, or even in the US for that matter, while they are taken much more seriously abroad.

Originally posted by gnomexxx

Whoa!!!  I thought you Europeans were not as violent as us American's.  It appears that is a myth!!!
Be sure to check the table at the bottom of the article.  And remember, it says that the U.S. has a violence rate of 466 per 100,000 when you look at that table.  Waaay below those other mostly european countries.
You guys need to be carrying some guns like us. 

No thanks, I enjoy living in a society where not every idiot can get their hands on a gun.

http://www.abanet.org/gunviol/factsaboutgunviolence/uscompared.shtml

http://www.securityworld.com/ia-425-the-facts-about-gun-violence.aspx

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Originally posted by WombRaiders

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Originally posted by SuperCrap

  I come from a poor family.  Not rich neighborhoods.  I've never been burgled.  Neither have any of my family members. 

You're so far up shit creek over there you don't even know which way the water is flowing!  O.o 

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Maybe its not worth breaking into your home for a broken Walkman, a pair of muddied work boots and a bulk-pack of Ramon noodles?

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Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Complete and utter garbage report.

I've frequented Austria and Germany; it isn't half as bad as the US .

You can't just tell by visiting a country. 

I can take you to the tourist places here in Germany or Belgium and show you the markets and the musea.

I can also take you 3 blocks farther where you will most likely get your money stolen, or I could take you on the subway in the middle of the night were you'll prolly get a knife in your back if you don't hand over your wallet.

You can't just "tell" by going on a holiday, tourists never get to see the violent streets and never get confronted with burglers.

The riots in Europe are crazy, people would get immediatly arrested in the US and thrown into jail, here they just throw rocks and fire bombs at the police like they're a joke. I wish police here were a lot harder, a lot, build more jails or throw them out, I don't care.

What you said about the crime being taken much more serious here. Wrong. Our jails are full and they're still building new ones, so police is rather lax on crime. If you're smart you try to avoid crime in Europe as a citizen, because police does squat here.

Notice Japan is not on the list? They are xenophobic.

Not necessarily a good quality, but crime results often times when there is immigration, but no assimilation.

It's ok to allow immigration, but there must be mechanisms in place to assimilate the population, and to slow immigration when assimilation is not progressing rapidly enough because of a constant influx of new immigrants.

For the guy who called bull on the article. Riots are quite frequent in Belgium, I know because I live there, especially in city centers:

www.youtube.com/watch

Try throwing rocks at police or setting cars on fire in the US and see how long you walk around freely.

If you're a tourist in Germany / Belgium you don't get to see any of it, city centers have the tourist places which are usually quite sheltered and guarded by undercover police (a good deal of normal looking people in Brussels are undercover cops to guard tourists and shopkeepers from getting shoplifted), then you have the suburbs, which is nothing like them.

Riots usually happen at night when all the "tourists" are asleep, 20 miles away in their 5 star hotel. Or the businessmen who sleep 2 feet from the Airport who rave about how great Europe is but actually never set a foot out of the hotel, the hotel here is like 2 steps from the Airport.

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by baff

The last time I was burgled, the Police took 7 hours to respond to my 999 call. They had been 1 mile away dealing with a child who had been ringing another child on his mobile phone. "Violent crimes" take priority.

Last time you were burgled?  Holy shit!  How common does that happen in the UK now?

 

Dude, I live in the US.  I come from a poor family.  Not rich neighborhoods.  I've never been burgled.  Neither have any of my family members.  In the US it's considered a nightmare to get burgled. 

 

You're so far up shit creek over there you don't even know which way the water is flowing!  O.o 

I get burgled most years.

They haven't robbed me this year but for the 4 years previously my lawn mowers were stolen from my shed at least once  year, presumably by the same gang.

Other than this recent lawn mower thing that has done somethig like half a million lawn mowers in the last 5 years in my region, I have been burgled twice in this house, and once in my shop over a 40 year period.

Typically, people here don't have guns, so we get more burglaries and less murders.

When I lived in a poor neighbourhood, none of us bothered to buy anything worth stealing.

Originally posted by Waterlily

You can't just tell by visiting a country. 

I can take you to the tourist places here in Germany or Belgium and show you the markets and the musea.

  I not only visited, but I also lived in Germany for almost 4 years close to the border of Switzerland and Austria in the south, so I know what it's like there. What you consider to be bad is really pathetic in comparison to the United States. Frankfurt, which is plagued by foreigners, is a walk in the park when compared to Oakland, California.

  Having grown up in California, there were sections so bad you could barely even drive through and if you broke down then you were pretty much a victim unless you had a gun.

  In Germany and Austria it's very hard to get a handgun and you even need a license for a rifle; in most states in America you can buy a rifle/shotgun at any Walmart.

  If you don't believe me, then you're welcome to visit some of our worst cities where people are killed DAILY.

  Edit: Having also been in Pittsburgh, it was so bad that university students would often be mugged/raped weekly so that it was necessary to hire more police offers just to patrol the area.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Waterlily

You can't just tell by visiting a country. 

I can take you to the tourist places here in Germany or Belgium and show you the markets and the musea.

 

  I not only visited, but I also lived in Germany for almost 4 years close to the border of Switzerland and Austria in the south, so I know what it's like there.

 

You don't, I lived in Switzerland too, close to Germany. That's like living in Beverly Hills, in Zurich every other car is a freaking Porsche.

Originally posted by Waterlily

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Waterlily

You can't just tell by visiting a country. 

I can take you to the tourist places here in Germany or Belgium and show you the markets and the musea.

 

  I not only visited, but I also lived in Germany for almost 4 years close to the border of Switzerland and Austria in the south, so I know what it's like there.

 

You don't, I lived in Switzerland too, close to Germany. That's like living in Beverly Hills, in Zurich every other car is a freaking Porshe.

 I lived in Germany for a year, about 4 or 5 hours from Paris, bummed around on the train over a good bit of the country. I thought it was much safer than the US from my personal experiences.

Originally posted by baff

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by baff

The last time I was burgled, the Police took 7 hours to respond to my 999 call. They had been 1 mile away dealing with a child who had been ringing another child on his mobile phone. "Violent crimes" take priority.

Last time you were burgled?  Holy shit!  How common does that happen in the UK now?

 

Dude, I live in the US.  I come from a poor family.  Not rich neighborhoods.  I've never been burgled.  Neither have any of my family members.  In the US it's considered a nightmare to get burgled. 

 

You're so far up shit creek over there you don't even know which way the water is flowing!  O.o 

 

I get burgled most years.

They haven't robbed me this year but for the 4 years previously my lawn mowers were stolen from my shed at least once  year, presumably by the same gang.

Other than this recent lawn mower thing that has done somethig like half a million lawn mowers in the last 5 years in my region, I have been burgled twice in this house, and once in my shop over a 40 year period.

 

Typically, people here don't have guns, so we get more burglaries and less murders.

 

When I lived in a poor neighbourhood, none of us bothered to buy anything worth stealing.

That's terrible, mate.  Well in the US at least it is the poorer neighborhoods that have by far the highest crime, including burglaries.  To be honest, it is hard for me to imagine a society where this is not the case.  But maybe if you have a lot of burglars who are trying to make big money like it is a business for them... in the US that hardly exists anymore, people who do things like breaking and entering are generally either juvenile delinquents or pretty desperate criminals [crackheads, tweakers, etc].  If they get too brazen then the police will really be on their ass and it is rare for anyone going around burgling homes in decent neighborhoods to last too long in the US before getting caught and going to jail.

And why are you guys talking about Germany, it is one of the safer nations and not even on the high violent crimes list that this thread is discussing.  Of course Germany also has extremely low immigration and harsh immigration laws compared to the UK, France, Sweden, and all those other countries where their society is disintegrating and crime is exploding... big surprise?  Germany is becoming the hope for the survival of European civilization, because they actually considered their culture and society something worth preserving, unlike most of Western European morons who wanted to trade theirs in for a third world culture instead, lol.

Originally posted by Waterlily

You don't, I lived in Switzerland too, close to germany. That's like living in Beverly Hills, in Zurich every other car is a freaking Porshe.

  Alright. If you're so confident, then go to the worst section of Oakland, California at night. There is a very good probability you will be raped and/or killed. Try it with Washington D.C. too, or Detroit, or Pittsburgh, or Minneapolis  ...

Hopefully you get the point. The murder rate in the District of Columbia (a tiny state) is 29.1...

Unlike Germany, however, our country is so big that the murder rate is VASTLY understated: There are literally hundreds of people that go missing every year in each state and the police cannot officially report it as a murder, since it is very hard to find a corpse in this giant country of ours.

I've also been in Northern/East Germany as I have some family there and while there are some robberies ( still not as many as here ) people rarely get killed. It's so bad here that if you break down in the wrong place, then it is not only possible, but it is LIKELY that you will get killed.

I remember in the 90's  when I was 12 years old I could walk around Hamburg alone at night without having to worry about getting abducted, while in America at the same time it was so bad that parents couldn't even let their kids wander out at night in SAFE neighborhoods.

Yeah, I really question if you have ever been to the US...

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

I remember in the 90's  when I was 12 years old I could walk around Hamburg alone at night without having to worry about getting abducted, while in America at the same time it is so bad that parents couldn't even let their kids wander out at night in SAFE neighborhoods. 

In the 90's you could, in the 90's Europe was one of the more peaceful places to be in.

Ridiculous immigration from North-Africans turned our cities into this:

5000 burned out cars in ONE NIGHT

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Waterlily

You don't, I lived in Switzerland too, close to germany. That's like living in Beverly Hills, in Zurich every other car is a freaking Porshe.

 

  Alright. If you're so confident, then go to the worst section of Oakland, California at night. There is a very good probability you will be raped and/or killed. Try it with Washington D.C. too, or Detroit, or Pittsburgh, or Minneapolis  ...

Hopefully you get the point. The murder rate in the District of Columbia (a tiny state) is 29.1...

Unlike Germany, however, our country is so big that the murder rate is VASTLY understated: There are literally hundreds of people that go missing every year in each state and the police cannot officially report it as a murder, since it is very hard to find a corpse in this giant country of ours.

I've also been in Northern/East Germany as I have some family there and while there are some robberies ( still not as many as here ) people rarely get killed. It's so bad here that if you break down in the wrong place, then it is not only possible, but it is LIKELY that you will get killed.

I remember in the 90's  when I was 12 years old I could walk around Hamburg alone at night without having to worry about getting abducted, while in America at the same time it was so bad that parents couldn't even let their kids wander out at night in SAFE neighborhoods.

Yeah, I really question if you have ever been to the US...

You're just speaking anecdotally and basically talking out of your ass, while waiving away the real statistics quoted in this article as if they are worthless.  LOL.  Safety is largely a matter of perception, even in the worst neighborhood in the US there are tons of people that live there and very few of them actually get murdered.  It is more of a question of not going into the wrong neighborhood if you are white in the US, because there is so much racism against whites now, but if you are not the "wrong" race then most of those neighborhoods you aren't actually likely to be victimized in, lol.  If you are a foreigner you are generally ignorant of the "danger" that surrounds you and so you just think everything is great.  The odds of something bad happening is still low, even though it might be 10x what the odds are in a better neighborhood, it is still low even in most bad neighborhoods in the world, or else people couldn't live there.  It is not like a war zone, which do exist, and people can't live there because you really do get killed probably if you go there.......