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Originally posted by BizkitNL

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Originally posted by drbaltazar

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Originally posted by HongKong
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lol not really
i can say this year there are other great game
rune of magic is a great game
 what most player means here when they speak about aion
isnt the fact its a bad game
its more because most feel they wont have anough bang (aion)for what they ll pay
thats more the issue people means when they say they arent impressed
when they meet x,y,z f2p game and they have more fun then a title like wow or everquest2
i bet most player feel like me ,and ask themselves ,
is it really worth it to spend my hard earned cash on x p2p game
or should i skip it and renew my wow sub
maybe i should play f2p game instead?
player are literally torn apart by all good choice avail
they have to choose often for the next year most cant spend on all game
so they often go by elimination
first p^lace everybody want to save is money
so its probably what most will check
first day cost
x game is 100 $ first day cost
e game is   0$ first day cost
just there! it become very hard to justify a p2p game yes even wow

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I have yet to see an f2p game that doesn't make you rely on the item mall. That includes RoM.
Now, if you were talking about singleplayer games, I'd pat your back and say "Well done, son". But you didn't, so I won't.

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lol free game dont exist and if they do they re not good
f2p microtransaction game are now very good
i know only maybe guild wars you could consider free once you buy all the game expension and pvp kit in order to have fun in their pvp
might be others but i dont know them

Originally posted by drbaltazar

f2p microtransaction game are now very good

Are you serious?  They really aren't very good at all.  The only one that was decent at one point was Mabinogi.  RoM is a joke with reliance on Mall, and Atlantica is just ok.  They are usually extremely shallow games. 

You're burnt out on MMOs. This, traditional level-based kind anyway.

Aion's early levels are extremely similar to WoW and the like, which is too bad because the whole focus of the game changes radically in the mid 20s.

Anyway, a lot of people are going to give up on the game after playing a few hours and feeling bored. It is extremely disappointing for the players who crave something new and can't stand this type of MMOs anymore.

For those people who are sick of this run-of-the-mill game play, advancement system, gear-based and the like, just stay away and don't bother trying it, you will be disappointed. You'll be doing boring easy quests to level up, get new skills and gear. Lvl25+ is kinda different, but most of these people won't be able to level this high due to it being BORING.

Wait on games such as Mortal Online, or just quite MMOs for a while and stick to single-player games.

Originally posted by ProfRed

So you guys seem to like PvP, and seem knowledgeable enough to know that for the most part from level 25-Max is in a PvP area, but you judged the game and wrote it off after never getting to 25 or even past lvl 10?  Just making sure I am getting this right.

ok my play time  is till lvl 4 then i left wasnt for me

now my view as a lot to do with that fact being

i go to other forum and see player posting 2 major issue

the fact that they dont have the choice they needed to hack the game where its has been release for months now

in order to be competitive in pvp

add to that the massive number of bot

makes me very afraid of this game

im not computer friendly enough to find ,let alone install and use hack

so when i read hack are mandatory to be successfull in( pvp) witch in my view would be the major aggro for me

i dont question,i know this game wont be for me

if i love pvp and pvp is flawed i cannot just put my head in the sand and ignore it

i donmt need to live the pvp my self to know

the player that eperienced that in the released version spoke the truth

one guy might be wrong

but not a whole comunity that have been playing that game for months

  Im sorry for the people who thought it might be decent.  I tried the beta even though I didn't want to and I didnt even get to 10.  i knew it wasnt going to be a good game.  I know its big in China or Korea wherever its from but I knew it wouldnt work here.

Originally posted by jjjk29

  Im sorry for the people who thought it might be decent.  I tried the beta even though I didn't want to and I didnt even get to 10.  i knew it wasnt going to be a good game.  I know its big in China or Korea wherever its from but I knew it wouldnt work here.

Why wudnt it work here?

This has nothing to do with WoW. I do not understand why there is always someone blaming WoW. This game's problem is it offers nothing new.
 

Originally posted by ProfRed

So you guys seem to like PvP, and seem knowledgeable enough to know that for the most part from level 25-Max is in a PvP area, but you judged the game and wrote it off after never getting to 25 or even past lvl 10?  Just making sure I am getting this right.

A game is fun to play or it isn't. Why does anyone think that the fun has to wait for endgame?

I was disappointed at Aions clear lack of innovation. Wings were a good idea that of course was buried in the endgame for the most part  because there is absolutely nothing else to drive you to level. Grind or not..

I'm not paying to play a game that isn't fun. I'm never again going to listen to those who say the fun begins at X. it is a game, if it isn't fun then whats the point.

Originally posted by jjjk29

  Im sorry for the people who thought it might be decent.  I tried the beta even though I didn't want to and I didnt even get to 10.  i knew it wasnt going to be a good game.  I know its big in China or Korea wherever its from but I knew it wouldnt work here.

I'm sorry, but I have not played this game yet, and I'm not going to say it is bad or not. What I am going to say is that I hope this is only your point of view bcoz I thought the same of EVERY other MMO i played and did not get to lvl 10..........

Originally posted by 3v3rlasting

Originally posted by jjjk29

  Im sorry for the people who thought it might be decent.  I tried the beta even though I didn't want to and I didnt even get to 10.  i knew it wasnt going to be a good game.  I know its big in China or Korea wherever its from but I knew it wouldnt work here.

I'm sorry, but I have not played this game yet, and I'm not going to say it is bad or not. What I am going to say is that I hope this is only your point of view bcoz I thought the same of EVERY other MMO i played and did not get to lvl 10..........

  I didnt like it so I didnt force myself to get to lvl 10.  Its not really a beta its a trail because this game is already out somewhere else.  And if you can't enjoy a trail then you wont enjoy the game.

Originally posted by jjjk29

  Im sorry for the people who thought it might be decent.  I tried the beta even though I didn't want to and I didnt even get to 10.  i knew it wasnt going to be a good game.  I know its big in China or Korea wherever its from but I knew it wouldnt work here.

It didn't work for you, and probably many others considering the trolls around these forums (I'm not mentioning you are trolling).

It worked for me, and also many, many others. I managed to get immersion in the lore and environment, so it's being fun since level 1, especially since you don't get hand-holding easy leveling, neither a hardcore grindfest, it's a balance I'm enjoying.

First of im also disepointed , they have had so much time in there hand and there grafics is bad , realy bad  but not the char.

Crytech engine 2 isent what it looks like , i feel like im seeing bad close up.

Farcry is much better with its grafics

Anyhows

Its bad enought they have a flight limit and second i will say OMG restricted to areas.

I am also playing the Chinies Retail version , they still have the old Lineage 2 problem with not beeing able to swim.

They have to correct the Grafics to a more sharp one.

They have to correct the Flight time and areas , take them away from the game. before i can think of playing the game.

LOTRO is still the most good looking game out there.

Originally posted by jotull

Same here I canceled since they sold out to the carebears.  Aion was suppose to have meaningful PVP but now it's all located in a playpen and they carebears get to go skipping through the rest of the world.

When they give us back our forced PVP I might take a second look.

They have been pretty clear from the start. This is just players making assumptions. Besides, meaningful pvp is subjective. However, it has been said from the begining that the major fighting would be in the abyss and that the rifts would open up for a limited amount of time. At no point was this a FFA pvp game or anything close to it.

 this game was never marketed as a lineage 3 type game.

As a flip to all that, there are pve players who don't want to play precisely because of the rifts and that there is a possibility that there will be pvp play where they don't want it.

So to chalk it up... this game is in the middle. Which it was always meant to be.

I can easily see why people don't like it. As for me I like it very much and it will become my main game.

Originally posted by catsaad

i could play the whole game in beta of korea and china .what is so much special about aion europe or amercia beta ? that they are not opening it up? are they hiding something ?? yes its the lack of end game content.they just want you to buy their boxes ,pay for subs for 2-3 months .so they can atleast generate revenue which they put up in the game. its pure negligence on plaync part .bad marketing practice really!!!i got an email from plaync stating that this will be their beta test .look closely and none of them states that you can play above 25 lvl .

hird Closed Beta
Thursday, July 2, 2009, 8 pm GMT to Monday, July 6, 2009, 8 pm GMT
Asmodians, levels 1-20

Fourth Closed Beta
Friday, July 17, 2009, 8 pm GMT to Monday, July 20, 2009, 8 pm GMT
Asmodians and Elyos, levels 1-25, and a first taste of the Abyss

So if I read your post right, you're saying it's a bad thing that they're not letting you play the whole game, and experience all the content before the game is actualyl released in the EU/NA markets?

That doesn't make any sense, and I can promise you that if they did it would be a much worse marketing strategy. "Great, Aion release day! I can't wait to get home and..oh hang on I've already played through 90% of the content during the trial weekends, guess I'll go to the pub instead."

Still no Invert Y axis toggle, which is pretty danm strange since thats a staple of any game with mouse aiming.  It better be in there at release. 

Originally posted by Variant13

Originally posted by catsaad

i could play the whole game in beta of korea and china .what is so much special about aion europe or amercia beta ? that they are not opening it up? are they hiding something ?? yes its the lack of end game content.they just want you to buy their boxes ,pay for subs for 2-3 months .so they can atleast generate revenue which they put up in the game. its pure negligence on plaync part .bad marketing practice really!!!i got an email from plaync stating that this will be their beta test .look closely and none of them states that you can play above 25 lvl .

hird Closed Beta
Thursday, July 2, 2009, 8 pm GMT to Monday, July 6, 2009, 8 pm GMT
Asmodians, levels 1-20

Fourth Closed Beta
Friday, July 17, 2009, 8 pm GMT to Monday, July 20, 2009, 8 pm GMT
Asmodians and Elyos, levels 1-25, and a first taste of the Abyss

 

So if I read your post right, you're saying it's a bad thing that they're not letting you play the whole game, and experience all the content before the game is actualyl released in the EU/NA markets?

That doesn't make any sense, and I can promise you that if they did it would be a much worse marketing strategy. "Great, Aion release day! I can't wait to get home and..oh hang on I've already played through 90% of the content during the trial weekends, guess I'll go to the pub instead."

well i have beta tested wow ,aoc ,warhammer online .none of the games had any restriction to play in beta . the only point i am making is if people in china and korea are playing the content upto lvl 60 and they allowed them to play the whole content even in beta of korea and china?? why not here?? what are they afraid of??if they wont test it .they would not know if there are performance issues and bugs .how will they correct it at launch?? will not the customers suffer who buy the game at launch .give a thought to my point with cool mind .and then tell me .i will agree with whatever argument you bring up next .

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well i have beta tested wow ,aoc ,warhammer online .none of the games had any restriction to play in beta

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WAR was restricted to level 20 only.

AoC's beta was restricted to level 20, which was even worse because the entire game changed after 20 for the worse.

Sure, both WAR and AoC both had real betas as well which wern't capped but, guess what, this game already went through its beta phases back before it was released in korea. This is just the same sort of preview / stress test event that both WAR and AoC had and capped the levels on.

Originally posted by catsaad

well i have beta tested wow ,aoc ,warhammer online .none of the games had any restriction to play in beta . the only point i am making is if people in china and korea are playing the content upto lvl 60 and they allowed them to play the whole content even in beta of korea and china?? why not here?? what are they afraid of??if they wont test it .they would not know if there are performance issues and bugs .how will they correct it at launch?? will not the customers suffer who buy the game at launch .give a thought to my point with cool mind .and then tell me .i will agree with whatever argument you bring up next .

Hmm ...

I beta tested both AoC and WAR and I seem to recall them capping at lvl 20. If I would have been able to get out of Tortage in beta I highly doubt I would have bought 2 CEs, 1 SE, 3 Zboard keysets, a new PC and several upgrades for 2 other PCs.

Huge difference here though is that AION has been released for some time in Korea, and has undergone all beta testing and even some updates.  So, by limiting us to the first 10 to 20 levels they are piling players into the same zones to make sure the servers can handle it. Also, they are working on translations which can take some time, as they not only need to translate but make it comprehensible to the western audience. In other words we are testing the localization as well as stressing the servers.

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Originally posted by Drakkhen

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Originally posted by catsaad

well i have beta tested wow ,aoc ,warhammer online .none of the games had any restriction to play in beta . the only point i am making is if people in china and korea are playing the content upto lvl 60 and they allowed them to play the whole content even in beta of korea and china?? why not here?? what are they afraid of??if they wont test it .they would not know if there are performance issues and bugs .how will they correct it at launch?? will not the customers suffer who buy the game at launch .give a thought to my point with cool mind .and then tell me .i will agree with whatever argument you bring up next .

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Hmm ...
I beta tested both AoC and WAR and I seem to recall them capping at lvl 20. If I would have been able to get out of Tortage in beta I highly doubt I would have bought 2 CEs, 1 SE, 3 Zboard keysets, a new PC and several upgrades for 2 other PCs.
Huge difference here though is that AION has been released for some time in Korea, and has undergone all beta testing and even some updates.  So, by limiting us to the first 10 to 20 levels they are piling players into the same zones to make sure the servers can handle it. Also, they are working on translations which can take some time, as they not only need to translate but make it comprehensible to the western audience. In other words we are testing the localization as well as stressing the servers.

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I am not a big supporter of AOC in the least, however regarding AOC Beta, there was no restriction on levels at all for the full time closed beta testers. With that said, FC did open up a few weekends just like Aion is doing and that short term server was restricted to lvl 15 or so. FC knew that the game post-Tortage wasnt ready for release thus the lvl restriction for those people not in the full time closed beta.
As for Aion, its similar to AOC in that it is a pretty game but the actual depth of the content is nothing spectacular. Standard MMO but with added occasional flying option. The game is just a year old though so give it a few more years to become better tweaked and added content. IMO Aion is nothing new for the MMO market but it does utilize the tried-and-true platform that has been the base for all of the successful western style MMOs.

 I have been playing all day made a priest and went for a chanter at lvl 9 (you pritty much get given a level at this point) 

Enjoying it so far whats ruining it is for some reason i dont know they have disabled the chat channels like zone / trade /lfg channels are turned off and its hard to get talking to people really off putting. 

Crafting is great in this i was gathering iron for ages thinkin id try it out it was great got me kinda hooked to top it off i even got a level out of it just makin some little bits so i can start making armor. 

I wasnt expecting alot to be honest after so meny let downs i thought it was gonna be shite the only down sides were the starting place for 1-10 seemed very small but probaly on par with like wow. 

Some little things are anoying me like the voice my chanter sounds like bruce lee ugh whooahhhh pahhhh -heal- lol

Water just seems to be a texture you flat out plonk to the floor no swiming , flying took a few minets to get comfterble with.

Good mmo i  am liking it so far just hope they fix some little things